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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: hblair on April 07, 2003, 10:55:13 AM
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Anybody go? I took my boys down saturday for the aarons 312 and the Iroc race. Wish I'd have splurged and gone back yesterday. It had to have been one of, if not the most, exciting winston cup races they've had there. That and the fact that dale junior is establishing himself as a superspeedway force to be reckoned with. Just like his old man. Creamo, were you there? :)
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If you're going to splurge on your kids, be sure to bring some paper towels.
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Nope. But I was at Texas the week before where Jr and Gordon made a hell of a race for 2nd place in the last 2 laps with Jr just edging Gordon out at the line. Newman ran away with it down here, but you could see it coming from the start. His car was just awesome all day.
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hmm, seems this thread is dying...
Formula 1 is for panzies.
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California Race coming up soon. The Fontana track is about 20 miles from my house. The traffic jams are god-awful.
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Originally posted by funkedup
If you're going to splurge on your kids, be sure to bring some paper towels.
LOL!
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Thanks RJ. :)
Your porn hero may be the Hedgehog, but as you can see from my wisecrack, I'm a fan of Peter "The Decorator" North. :)
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Dale Jr. was a force to be reckoned with last year, or maybe even year before when he and Michael Waltrip traded first-place finishes at Daytona's two races. Yeah, Sunday's race was pretty good but I could only pay partial attention to it because I was defending Rookdom from the Bishop and Knight hordes. Those last 16 laps were real nail biters and I thought Dale was out of it going into the last 5 or 6 laps when he seemed to fall back. Then, when Johnson spun on the 2nd to last lap I thought we'd see a race finish under red flag or even a caution. What sent him into the spin? I missed the replay - did he get pushed?
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I'm a fan of Peter "The Decorator" North.
I thought his nickname was "beercan" because of the prodigious amount of.....um, fluids, that he produces?
At any rate, the guy is amazing.
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Great race over pizza. I like the super speedways.
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Originally posted by banana
I thought his nickname was "beercan" because of the prodigious amount of.....um, fluids, that he produces?
At any rate, the guy is amazing.
I haven't heard the "beercan" name, but "The Decorator" has the same origin.
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Originally posted by hblair
hmm, seems this thread is dying...
Formula 1 is for panzies.
F1 is racing. NASCAR is demolition derby in a circle. Hell... those good ol boys in their Chev-ayes cant even run in the rain... talk about wusses. :D
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Tally was a decent race and it worked out well for a Lil E fan like myself. Lap 4 looked to me like the world ended, 29 cars in that disaster.
Saurdaukar
You and I always show up in these threads, F1 (aside from this year as it seams to be getting interesting) has usually been follow the ferrari's, it is more how much money and development you can throw into a car.
I like Montoya, and Couthard (sp?)
WRC all the way, NZ this week correct? let's go Solberg.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
F1 is racing. NASCAR is demolition derby in a circle. Hell... those good ol boys in their Chev-ayes cant even run in the rain... talk about wusses. :D
Hmmm, sounds like goose time again.
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johnson "tapped" someones front bumper, not sure whose fault if anybodys. was really close race, but thats how nascar is setup, to have close races.
F1 needs to get rid of "wings" and get back to real racing. and nascar needs to find out what "rain tires" are for.
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Originally posted by john9001
johnson "tapped" someones front bumper, not sure whose fault if anybodys. was really close race, but thats how nascar is setup, to have close races.
F1 needs to get rid of "wings" and get back to real racing. and nascar needs to find out what "rain tires" are for.
They tried to develop rain tires for NASCAR cars but the cars are too heavy and go too fast. Or at least that's what either Daryl Waltrip or Benny Parsons said during a rain delay last year. That's why I also watch the ALMS races - fendered race cars running rain or shine!
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Originally posted by john9001
and nascar needs to find out what "rain tires" are for.
I think the main reason winston cup doesn't run in the rain is that nascar understands that the fans are an integral part of the sport. Making them stand out in the rain would hurt revenue big time. nascar prolly pulls 2 times the fans of any other racing sport in the world except maybe the indy 500. All other cart races are ghost towns.
It'd been a few years since I'd been to talladega on a race weekend. Saturday I was stunned at the number of people down there. There had to have been 200,000 people there. They had the 6 lane highway as a one way street and it was bumper to bumper traffic. nascar is growing leaps and bounds mainly because the guys running it understand what the fans want, namely good close competitive racing. The commercials are even entertaining to watch. ;)
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excuse me while i get a chew of red man.
there, thats better.
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Originally posted by Apache
Hmmm, sounds like goose time again.
ROFL!!!!! :D
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I think the real rise of NASCAR goes to two factors (a) you can watch the whole race from your seat, unlike the road races where the track bends and curves and your view is obstructed; and (b) RJ Reynolds threw big revenue money at the sport as part of its marketing campaign years ago, and all that money gave the teams a chance to build great cars. With RJ Reynolds pulling out in the next year or so, it'll be interesting to see if NASCAR can maintain its prominence in the American racing scene or if series like ALMS, Trans-Am, IRL, and CART will begin to ascend as NASCAR slides.
Personally, I think ALMS and Trans-Am are better products.
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Originally posted by funkedup
I'm a fan of Peter "The Decorator" North. :)
Anyone else think this is sig material par excellance?
(oops was that french?)
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gofaster , sorry , but what is ALMS?
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american lemans i believe
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oh , ok lamans series, know about it, thanks
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I was there for the 500. Of course it seemed that 95% of the Drunks there (thats 95/99 people at the race) were really depressed that the dangerous fun all happened in the 4th lap. Otherwise im mad that Jr. won. I hate the boy. Hes a redneck just like his dear old dad. No I dont like Gordon either he is a stuckup clean-shaven boy. I will stick with the old Guard. The Mark Martins and Dale Jarrets.
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Didn’t go to the race, but watched the whole thing. It may have been the best race I’ve seen, and glad I was able to see it unfold. TV is good for that. It’s impossible to see it all at the track but when 40+ cars come by at race speed that first few laps, there is nothing like it.
Oh, and I stopped being a fan of Mark Martin a few years ago. He whines more than AH players.
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Oh and HBlair are you going to the Rolex Series race. The Barber 250. I know I'm going I live near by at the Grant's Mill exit on 459. I got a friend whose dad works there. He has got us tickets and full-access passes for the race. It is going to be great. Cant wait till the motorcycle race in September.
Yes and it was only the first few laps with 40+ this time.
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Whats wrong with being a redneck? You are just un-learn-ed in our ways.
Big-E was the best, and Little-E isn't far behind.
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When he wins somewhere besides Talledega maybe we can talk, othewise...His father was good but a redneck. I dont mind the guy who goes out with his buddies and shoots Canadian Geese off the back of his bass boat on sunday morning with a six pack already down and another coming over from his buddy's boat. (I mean they are Canadian right?) I just don't like the type who cant talk. They dont care for being educated or anything of the sort.
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Hobo-
Good? the BEST. And he spoke just fine. I really enjoyed how he snubbed the national media. WTG DALE.
By definition, then you will have to include me as a redneck. But, I DO mind idiots that take a bottle (or any other drug) with them while hunting or shooting...BTW that is against the law in any state the USAF has taken me. Canadian geese hate Canada, if they didn't, I wouldn't see so many of them in NC, MS, AL, and TX:D
In the early 80's my father wrote an insurance policy for some guy that had tickets adn pit passes for the Talledega 500 weekend races. We only got them for 3 years, but they were real good years. The fourth year, we bought tickets for the infield (probably 1984) and I think they wanted $20. I can remember my cousin complaining that about the price..LOL. What do they cost now? $90? I have been to Charlotte, Rockingham and of course Talledega and the latter was the best experience for me. NASCAR fans need to go!
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Ok Ok. You caught me I was being stereotypical but what I am saying is I dont mind those who go and have fun on the weekend. But when they have no respect for athority nor themselve then they become a problem. Byt that definition a redneck can be any normal guy in any part of the world who likes to have fun. I just dont like the ones who doit at the exspense of themselve or others. (Yes that was hypocritical towards the drinking and shooting reference but I said I was being stereotypical.)
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Yes done Charlotte and Rockingham also. Have done Atlanta and Darlington too. My cousins are in Lumberton. Was going to go visit my cousins in LA for the California race this year but he got transferred to Chile. Of course thankfully before they could move he got transferred again to N.C. One thing though is that I would like to see an American F1 team with some sponsorship from an American motor company. Barbers was going to try but couldnt get it lined up and let It die before going public with the intention.
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I'm in the RV industry. NASCAR is our friend. I really should get into it more.
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Originally posted by Hobodog
When he wins somewhere besides Talledega maybe we can talk, othewise...His father was good but a redneck. I dont mind the guy who goes out with his buddies and shoots Canadian Geese off the back of his bass boat on sunday morning with a six pack already down and another coming over from his buddy's boat. (I mean they are Canadian right?) I just don't like the type who cant talk. They dont care for being educated or anything of the sort.
How about Daytona, Texas, and Richmond? And Charlotte? Little E has won plenty of places besides Talladega.
Oh, and I'm a redneck too. I prefer the unpretentious redneck to the arrogant F1 fan anyday.
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Originally posted by -ammo-
Hobo-
Good? the BEST. And he spoke just fine. I really enjoyed how he snubbed the national media. WTG DALE.
Oh he was a media darling all right, funny how the tape of him telling a small boy to "Get the F**K away from me" while walking to his hauler at Texas in '97 has vanished. The kid wanted an autograph from what he thought was his "Hero". Earnhardt, Dale, Jr and Steve Park are (were) the biggest A-holes in NASCAR. I an speaking from personal experience, having met all 3 thru work. Why Michael Waltrip (The NICEST guy in the sport) wanted to be associated with that bunch I will never know.
Have you ever noticed that Kerry Earnhardt is NEVER seen with his 1/2 brother or Theresa? Wanna bet he was excluded from the will along with his mother? Dale drove dirty and whined like a malnurished baby when anyone did the same to him. The ONLY thing I agree with him is BAN the Restrictor Plate and let them RACE!
I await the flame war to follow. :D
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You talking about the same Michael Waltrip that I saw get out of his car and proceed to physically attack Lake Speed? I think he hit him three times through the window opening of his chevy.
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nascar sucks...the carsdont even explode right or go fast...
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Originally posted by -ammo-
You talking about the same Michael Waltrip that I saw get out of his car and proceed to physically attack Lake Speed? I think he hit him three times through the window opening of his chevy.
Yep. He's also the same guy that stood and signed autographs for fans at Texas Motor Speedway for 30 min during Qualifying 2 years ago. Dale,Jr , Dale Jarret, Mark Martin and countless others made a Beeline from the pits to the Garage area without signing 1 single autograph.
Oh yeah, he should have dragged Lake Speed out of the car THEN hit him. Speed was about as good a driver as Derrike Cope, the Gayest Never-Was that ever stepped foot on asphault.
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Gotta speak up for Lake. He is a super nice guy, and was very competitive in his day, considering the teams he drove for.
Hey, you know those guys are there to race on race day. Good for waltrip, I am glad he found time on that day to sign a few autographs. But don't fault the other drivers for being too busy trying to win to sign folks caps and cups on that day. It wouldn't take a whole lot of searching to show you that they do alot of stuff for their fans during the season and off season too.
Nobody likes the loud mouth waltrips where I am from. Bunch of whiny mouth drivers. Signs abound around the track at Talledega "ANYBODY BUT WALTRIP". That went for Darryl and his boys.
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I gotta admit I never cared for DW when he was driving. You are correct about him being a crybaby. I do like him as an announcer, ya gotta admit he's good at running his mouth. Michael is (or has appeared to be) much less of a whiner and he's funny as hell on Inside Winston Cup.
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I will freely admit that my thing with Michael is based on association with the parent, and because of that, " aint bein fair":D
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Originally posted by -ammo-
I will freely admit that my thing with Michael is based on association with the parent, and because of that, " aint bein fair":D
Belive it or not they are Brothers.
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I believe it, they have the same wife too? Or is that the daughter?
I haven't watched one full race since Dale Sr died. Not outa some funky thing in respect for him, I just can't get into it like I used too.
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Originally posted by john9001
gofaster , sorry , but what is ALMS?
I know the question has already been answered, but its a great segueway into the reason why I like American LeMans Series over NASCAR.
First off, I like NASCAR. I'm in a fantasy racing league for it right now and I know most of the drivers names and follow the results (I can't believe Jimmy Spencer hasn't been thrown out). I watch the races on Sundays if (a) its too hot to be outside and (b) the race isn't rained out. I went to the Pepsi 400 once a couple of years ago when Dale Jr. won it. Had a fun time watching an exciting race, but Daytona Int'l Speedway really needs to revamp its bleacher seating. When you exit and enter the stands, you pass under the bleachers and have to endure a waterfall of spilled beer and cigarette butts, then hope none of it lands on your pretzels as you carry them up into the stands. And of course everyone smokes around you, so if you're a non-smoker its a bit unpleasant. But the racing is good entertainment and fits on a tv screen well.
But I prefer Sebring's ALMS races. Its a much more open area and attracts a different kind of crowd - a much more, shall we say, classier race fan. Yes there's beer and rebel yells at 2 am, but once the sun comes up things calm down a bit. Don't like your viewing spot? Go find another one. There's plenty of trackside viewing locations (my favorite is Turn 3 and then the hairpin turn near the Chateau Elan) I also think its a much more challenging form of racing. Four different classes of cars, all racing at the same time, for 12 straight hours (full course yellows and reds excepted). There's also more of a festival atmosphere - plenty to see and do in between the various support races and practice sessions. The real stars of those races are the cars, not the drivers, and the scheduled autograph sessions are great for asking drivers questions about race strategies (not that they'll give away any secrets, of course). The cars look the way a race car should - sleek with aero fins and wings, carbonfibre body shells, aluminum chassis, rain tires, the whole shebang. Tickets are cheaper than NASCAR events and there's a lot more to see and do - wall climbing, mechanical bulls, Hawaiian Tropic girls playing beach volleyball, auto racing museums, and showcar displays to name a few things. Last year the Collings Foundation B-17 was flying overhead as part of the track's 50th anniversary celebration. I didn't go this year because I spent my race trip money on the inaugural St. Petersburg Grand Prix CART races (in my opinion, Dover Motorsports should extend the Trans Am race to 2 hours - it was more exciting than the CART open wheelers).
If you've never been to an ALMS race, I suggest you make a weekend of it. Its pretty cool.
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Met Little E at Richmond last year seemed like a good guy to me (signed my T-shirt), all of these guys can be a snob at times, Stewart comes to mind, DW was cool too.
Especially after a bad qual or race, as far as dirty racing...HA. Rubbing in racing, more than half the guys in the field have done the bump and run granted Gordon has it down to a science.