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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on April 07, 2003, 02:12:48 PM
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A texan is 8 times more likely to serve in the US military than a New Yorker.
miko
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when you say "new yorker" do you mean new york city or new york state?
not that it matters , they are both a hot bed of anti-war liberals.
IE: chuck shumer and hillary clinton , new york state senators.
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Wonder what the percentage of New Yorkers go to college and those of texans. and those that have to do it via the military.
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what are you trying to say frogman , that people who go to college are more intelligent than people who don't?
don't confuse education with intelligence.
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Originally posted by miko2d
A texan is 8 times more likely to serve in the US military than a New Yorker.
miko
Small wonder in a state with educators like De Genova.
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Frog,
You're probability right. I'm guessing there are probability more 'New Yorker's' that go to collage, avoid any type of national service and hide behind the guns of the U. S. Army, than those from Texas.
OTOH, Texans step up and and do something for their country. Are rewarded with funds for their collage education and become valuable members of society with out once going anywhere near Columbia University.
Go figure....
(Disclaimer: This message is not meant to impinge the loyalty of the majority of fine citizens from the state of New York)
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Guess it's not lack of college that makes those Texans more willing to serve their country. According to a 2000 census posted by USA Today Texas is ranked #2 in the Nation for college, New York is #3.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2002-06-05-education-census.htm
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I wonder how that breaks down via branches of service. Can't say I've noticed a trend towards any particular state contributing more or less while I was in the AF.
MiniD
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otto dont try and glorify military service. most people join so they have something to do. give them order and whatnot. They also use it for college money. I really hope that we dont have a vast majority of people that volunteer do it so they can go off and kill people. If you dont have to go into it why they should you? To be a pawn for whoever is in power this week? Its there to protect me im not hideing behind it. Last i checked we have lost far more civilians to terrorist attacks then military personal. My ancestors fought so i wouldnt have to.whatever dude....
your right john you can be intelligent and not go to college, but those people tend to keep reading and self educating themselves. there are plenty of morons in college.
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People join for many different reasons. Probably one of the most common IS because of lack of options, or money for college. I joined because I was a deliquent, and didn't have much of a choice. It was one of the best decisions I made. I went SOS, got money for college (although not much back then), learned discipline/maturity/responsibility, and used my experience to better myself.
As a result, I would enthusiastically vote for a mandatory 2 years in service. I think it would be a favorable experience for every American.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
If you dont have to go into it why they should you? To be a pawn for whoever is in power this week? Its there to protect me im not hideing behind it.
Dude, if you are going to, or went to college, you should demand a refund.
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why because i have dyslexia, and dont really care about editing my grammer and spelling for a forum?
Politics are a big thing in my life, and if i was in the military and did not support our president i would have a hard problem fighting for him. Do not forget without the private sector , and those that are not in the military it would cease to exsist. Its a symbiotic relationship.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
why because i have dyslexia, and dont really care about editing my grammer and spelling for a forum?
Politics are a big thing in my life, and if i was in the military and did not support our president i would have a hard problem fighting for him. Do not forget without the private sector , and those that are not in the military it would cease to exsist. Its a symbiotic relationship.
I never fought for the president, I fought for my country.
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I don't mock anyone's grammar, except perhaps my offspring. It is your demonstrated lack of understanding and arrogance that I ridicule. Your first post in this thread seemed to imply that Texans join the military because they are uneducated, and based on many of your other posts, therefore ignorant.
Your comment in your last post about your ancestors fighting for you and therefore you don't have to shows not only your ignorance but also implies you owe these men and women currently serving, some of whom have laid down their lives for you, nothing.
I find this attittude to be very offensive, I'd chalk it up to youth but it seems I recall you are not so young?
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See its hard for me to think like that martlet. If i was fighting for my country in vietnam it would have been hard. I would be constantly doubting the reasons why we were in there. And this would have gotten me killed like it did to alot of guys there.
Plus my inherent distrust of those in power never helps.
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hell my grandpa and all his brothers told me they would beat my bellybutton if i joined the military. they told me they fought so my generation wouldnt have to see the carnage they did.
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"The Price of Peace is Eternal Vigilance."
General of the Army, George C. Marshall, 1947
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I was assigned to an SOS unit in South America for the war on drugs.
It didn't take me long to realise that it was a political battle, and unwinnable. I lost a few good friends down there.
However, I also learned that our actions did help. We did some good for the people there, and there are many political side affects to every battle that aren't directly related to it. Politics are extremely complicated, and there are often things most of us don't understand, because we don't have the big picture.
As an example, yet sort of off topic: Awhile ago someone posted about the budget being slashed in the area of VA benefits. I read the link, and saw it was correct. This bothered me, for obvious reasons. I talked to a friend of mine that is high up in the VA. He explained to me that the VA affects and is effected by many different organizations, and that when you put everything together, the VA actually had a 7.8% increase in funding. (slam me on this if you want, I can't prove it since I didn't even fully understand it, but I take him at his word, since he'd be irate if it weren't true.)
I guess I'm just saying that there are good and bad to every military action. It isn't up to the person on the front line to decide which has more weight.
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I have not met anyone that served in the armed forces that did not hesitate to say it made them better, in some way.
Do not chastise what you cannot comprehend.
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"A man thinks a little meaner of himself for not having served"
Oliver Wendel Holmes Jr. - Supreme Court Justice and Civil War Veteran.
I think this is true.
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Eh your right i should leave that up to my father. He was in the airforce in the 70's so he could get college money. When i ask him about his experience's in the military all he talks about is the corruption and hypocrisies. Blackmarkets and such.
Of course the people he was refering to are the guys that are in it for life. Officers and such.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
hell my grandpa and all his brothers told me they would beat my bellybutton if i joined the military.
strange, my dad was proud i joined the marines
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Eh your right i should leave that up to my father. He was in the airforce in the 70's so he could get college money. When i ask him about his experience's in the military all he talks about is the corruption and hypocrisies. Blackmarkets and such.
Of course the people he was refering to are the guys that are in it for life. Officers and such.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
He was in the airforce in the 70's so he could get college money. all he talks about is the corruption and hypocrisies.
joined the AF to get college money and calls other people hypocrites.
no comment
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its most likely due to our familys personalities. We like to argue, and always question authority. Dosnt result in a good experiance in the military i would assume. Had a great uncle that recieved a bronze star in ww2 but refused to shake MacAuthurs hand. The reason he got it was partly in due to his buddies dieing, because of a poor decision on Macaurthurs part. of course he is 78 years old and could be just ranting.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Eh your right i should leave that up to my father. He was in the airforce in the 70's so he could get college money. When i ask him about his experience's in the military all he talks about is the corruption and hypocrisies. Blackmarkets and such.
Of course the people he was refering to are the guys that are in it for life. Officers and such.
Yeh, I see corruption everyday here. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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it was the 70s things have changed a tad. i have alot of friends in the military now that it was the best thing for them.
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Originally posted by Martlet
As a result, I would enthusiastically vote for a mandatory 2 years in service. I think it would be a favorable experience for every American.
lol good luck with that one ;)
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Originally posted by udet
lol good luck with that one ;)
heh, it would never happen. I just said I'd support it, although I'd most likely be the only one. Well, me and that guy that hangs out in Gov't Center T station with the sandwich boards proclaiming Bush is Jesus, and we should all join the army of Christ.