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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: rpm on April 08, 2003, 02:40:15 AM
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I'm watching the video of Al-Jazeera getting smoked and the discussion about it being bad press for the US. The anchor at FOX takes it upon himself to single handedly displace the Iraqi Information Minister as Worst Spin Doctor of the War.
The video shows the camera (obviously mounted on a tripod) taking incoming rounds. Chunks of concrete (square,triangular,softball sized CHUNKS) splinter infront of the camera as the rounds zero in on the position and the camera falls over on it's side. Pretty obvious that it was straifed.
Here's the FOX spin:
The flying chunks of concrete? "Look closely and you will see the spent casings fly out of what must be an Anti-Aircraft Weapon of some sort." Are we fighting in Baghdad or Bedrock?
The camera falling over? "Obviously the Al-Jazeera cameraman was dropping the camera to man the weapon, thus making himself a legitimate target. Either that or he was shooting from behind the weapon, either way he is in a target area." Funny, still looked like the camera was tripod mounted and was knocked over by incoming. And it was still flying concrete not spent rounds flying around, Numbskull!
Now don't get me wrong, I'm not Pro Al-Jazeera. What I'm saying is don't try and make up some lameass story to make the Troops not look bad. They have actual people to do that for themselves
that are MUCH better at it than you. Try admitting that Al-Jazeera was showing LIVE pictures of US Tanks attempting to take a bridge and we put out the lights so the ENEMY could not use it for targeting.
FOX...Fair and Balanced Yeah they hire people who are "Fairly Qualified to be Mindless Murdock Media" and they are "Balanced completely to Starboard".
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The mistake was corrected almost immediately.
Fox does jump the gun alot, but at least they arent a bunch of left wing crybaby liberal tree hugging doo gooders!!!
lol
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Damn, N1kPaz. I'd be scared to wear a birthday hat around you, judging by what your signature says.
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Actually MSNBC is confirming that they were near an AAA site.
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Now MSNBC is saying a tank did the shooting, and it was in an area where there are no US forces.
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They were showing M1 tanks firing from a bridge a block away!
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Everybody knows there are no US tanks in Baghdad...
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Originally posted by funkedup
Now MSNBC is saying a tank did the shooting, and it was in an area where there are no US forces.
I think you are thinking about the explosion at The Palestine Hotel. 2 different events.
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Yep I concur. I'm not sure MSNBC was aware of that distinction though.
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If you're gonna watch Faux news, you deserve what you get.
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Fox News is the best coverage, IMO.
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wasn't the confederate flag about states rights?
OH..and.. fox news is the only one that isn't depressing.... all the news services get to the same place eventually... your choice is to watch the commie news network wring their hands and cry "we can still escape if we throw down our guns and run away right now" or fox, saying "we are doing a great job... victory is at hand".
lazs
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Let's try to limit our remarks to only pithy one's pls.
Fox is a breath of fresh air....not saying good reporting never happens on the more liberal networks....kinda funny to me that you would criticize Fox when they at least hire known liberals and give them airtime...can you give me an example of the same for the other networks?
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Hmmmm... someone thinks one of the news services is better than the other in this?
I thought it was funny that so many said "I don't trust fox news" when the reports of Saddam's death came out even though it was MSNBC that broke the news. I was watching Fox at the time and most of the reporting on the subject involved "it doesn't make sense that Saddam would have been there with a large group of people".
I also believe that virtually none of the anchors covering this war really have any idea what they are looking at. They stare at the monitors waiting for a pretty flash and hoping that someone will tell them what it was. Unfortunately, they are relying on "experts" who's main criteria for interview is that they say something new (different) and refreshing.
Dunno... seems anyone dogging one news agency and/or singing the praises of another is pretty much missing the boat.
MiniD
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Originally posted by Pepe
Everybody knows there are no US tanks in Baghdad...
:D
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Yep.
Originally posted by Mini D
Dunno... seems anyone dogging one news agency and/or singing the praises of another is pretty much missing the boat.
MiniD
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I've been watching all 3 news stations. Here's my opinion, YMMV.
CNN - is the most "3rd World" of the three. Peter Arnett notwithstanding, CNN has a bunch of people reporting that like to put an Arabic spin on the news. Probably the least "Gung Ho" patriotic of the three.
Fox - Is kinda hit and miss. I lost a lot of respect for them when the Geraldo story was all but ignored. Then spun to look like he was leaving on his own.
MSNBC - Had the 2 best Embeds in the war. One was the late David Bloom. He was awesome, and had stories that made you want to watch. He actually designed the vehicle he traveled in and was able to provide pictures that didn't look like you had a slow internet video feed. Bob Arnot is the other. He is in the thick of it often, and speaks arabic. He seems to get the best human intrest stories. OTOH they (MSNBC) seem to have become superpatriots since the Geraldo fiasco... marketing marketing marketing.
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Originally posted by Rude
Let's try to limit our remarks to only pithy one's pls.
Fox is a breath of fresh air....not saying good reporting never happens on the more liberal networks....kinda funny to me that you would criticize Fox when they at least hire known liberals and give them airtime...can you give me an example of the same for the other networks?
MSNBC - Phil Donohue
Well you asked.
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hmmmmm
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=1514&e=30&u=/afp/20030408/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_war_baghdad_media_030408105504
"As they filmed the arrival of two US tanks on a major bridge in central Baghdad close to their offices overlooking the river, what appeared to be Iraqi machinegun fire clattered out from just beneath the camera position.
Several incoming blasts boomed out, engulfing the area in smoke and Abu Dhabi TV said it had lost contact with its correspondent."
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If they were reporting from the same building as combatant Iraqi forces they have no complaint.
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MT....
Let me try this one more time....
Fox News(conservative by definition of some), hires liberals and gives them airtime.
MSNBC(liberal by definition of some) hires any conservatives?
Thanks:)
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btw, that was NOT the Al-Jazeera camera that was hit (the one fox was showing with the concrete flying and then the camera knocking over)...that was coming from Abu Dahbi TV.
the Al-Jazeera incident was in a different location.
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Originally posted by Rude
MT....
Let me try this one more time....
Fox News(conservative by definition of some), hires liberals and gives them airtime.
MSNBC(liberal by definition of some) hires any conservatives?
Thanks:)
MSNBC recently hired Michael Savage, one of the most rabidly conservative voices on radio. He has a show on Saturday afternoons, "Savage Nation".
Pat Buchanan also appears on a show opposite of some Democrat I never heard of.
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Originally posted by Rude
MT....
Let me try this one more time....
Fox News(conservative by definition of some), hires liberals and gives them airtime.
MSNBC(liberal by definition of some) hires any conservatives?
Thanks:)
ahhh, my bad.
Mike Savage, Pat Buchanan, Norman Schwarzkopf
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deja i stick by what I originaly posted here.
lazs
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(http://cagle.slate.msn.com/news/More_War_Media/Media/1/horsey.gif)
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lol
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Originally posted by Mini D
Dunno... seems anyone dogging one news agency and/or singing the praises of another is pretty much missing the boat.
MiniD
Good call, sir.
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sorry squelch if I offended you.
I just have a hangup that I cant get rid of.
I dont like racists.
sorry man.
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What if Fox News were around during other historical events?
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(http://www.bartcop.com/fox-rosa_Parks.jpg)
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oh and lasz...your right...partially.
it was also about rich fat pigheaded rednecks who enjoyed raping their slaves, splitting up families, and using humans like animals. But...you can tell yourself whatever you want, my position will be the accepted position in the future. accept it or reject it, one day that battle flag will be realised for what it is...a symbol of oppression (oh and a handsomehunk badge)
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your sure a touchy little guy nik... bet yur a privilidged little white kid who doesn't know a damn thing about it.... here's a clue for ya.... the chicks won't dig ya more if you claim to hate biggots. heck.... black folks will just be embarassed by your zeal.
the confederate flag was about states rights no matter how much you need a whipping boy. for you to be so upset about it means that you arte either not to bright or.... very tightly wound. I would guess that it is all show tho hoping black folk and chicks will suddenly like you more.
lazs
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apparently ignorance is one disease that science can't cure....*sigh*
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MSNBC has Bianca Solorzano....they win! :p
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the confederate flag was about states rights no matter how much you need a whipping boy.
Nope!
Unless you mean the States right to own people.
Stole a chick from a biker once. She was very grateful. :p
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yep mt.... we used em up pretty quickly in those days.... unless of course you mean biker as in.... contemprary.... even chicks ride em now type of "biker".......... in which case.... it was an overweight 40 something wife of a gucci leather wearing accountant on an electric start full dresser that cost him 20 grand or so.
in either case... she probly was grateful... course if it was the first case then she probly stole everything that wasn't bolted down in your house on her way out and we ended up with it for a couple $20 bags of crank.
lazs
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Heh, I think I'd enjoy drinking with MT and Lazs