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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: miko2d on April 08, 2003, 11:16:15 AM
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Quick, before I part with a substantial chunk of cash, anyone had any experience with Aimpoint M2 - especially in a forward mount configuration?
Any alternatives of similar capabilities (low mount for co-witnessing is required, which rules out Trijicon, etc.)?
Advice?
Thanks,
miko
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Use your private army to steal it, whatver it is - much safer bet that way.. :D
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GRUNHERZ; Use your private army to steal it, whatver it is - much safer bet that way.. :D
You have some grounds to accuse me of being a thief and not a law-abiding citizen? Last time I checked, disagreeing with you on political matters was not against the law.
miko
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ive got some time with that sight. if you are gonna go forward mount what are you putting it on? ill ask around with some guys but give me a little more info.
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anonymous: if you are gonna go forward mount what are you putting it on?
Mini-14 with an Ultimak M4 rail for now.
miko
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Lighten up miko, the large smiley face indicates its a joke...
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okay dude can you wait a couple of days? i have zero experience using it in config you describe but much experience using it on other weapons. im betting theres a guy i work with who has actual experience with mini14 because i know he owns a couple of them at least but hes travelling for work and wont be in the shop for a day or two. its a great sight overall. most of my time with them is on m4s. are you gettin compm2?
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anonymous - forget other configs and Mini-14.
What can you tall me about the M2 unit itself?
I am considering going with M2 rather than ML2 (which is $50 less) because some day I might need that NVD capability.
What ranges is that 4 minute dot is goot at? What distance would you preset it for?
I am afraid I wouldn't be able to hold for two more days... Or hours... :)
GRUNHERZ - Lighten up miko, the large smiley face indicates its a joke...
OK, but it's not even funny. If one installs a house alarm, buys family life insurance and fire extinguisher, it does not mean he is going to rob someone, murder his wife and commit arson.
miko
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aimpoint blows.
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At various times I've played with all the aimpoint-type stuff. Never been that impressed with it. I much prefer trintium-type illuminated front and rear sights. Or practice using a gun and a flashlight in tandum.
Just my opinion however.
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Flashlight is not really a replacement for a rifle sight.
That's suprising hearing two negative comments to a single positive one.
The Comp M2 and Comp ML2 models are the ones US military currently uses, aren't they? It would certainly suck to be issued a crappy sight and have no choice to get a better one.
What is a better model, in your opinion?
miko
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am thinking i have never seen anyone worth a crap hunt with aimpoint anything.
screws with your ability to pull a sight picture uninterupted.
they do look neat tho :)
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lord dolf vader: screws with your ability to pull a sight picture uninterupted.
What do you mean by that, I do not understand? Do you mean it obscures the field of vision or something else?
miko
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Miko, I have a friend who has put a lot of time into researching holo sites for his ar-15, he has decided on the EO tech, it is less expensive than the aimpoint and is better quality wise according to everyone he has talked to about it. Here is the web site:
http://www.eotech-inc.com/
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medicboy: Miko, I have a friend who has put a lot of time into researching holo sites for his ar-15, he has decided on the EO tech, it is less expensive than the aimpoint and is better quality wise
Thanks, it certainly seems to be a great product - though not less expensive, as far as I see.
The only problem is that due to it's higher base, it can't be mounted on a Mini to allow co-witnessing the iron sights. I am pretty much limited to tube-bodied sights in that respect.
miko
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miko..can i read more tank stories please...
And i had an aimpoint on my mini 14..hated it..I wanted to shoot longer range..and the 1x mag was usless for me..
its now on my 10-22 ruger with a bull barrel..
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Are you limited to a mini-14? I sold mine a few years ago, couldn't stand the POS. If I didn't live in California I would have an AR15, but they arn't legal here. I guess that pistol style grip makes them so much more deadly than the mini....?:confused:
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Not worth the price IMHO
Not all that rugged and I don't want a sight dependent on a power supply.
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Thanks for input, guys.
BGBMAW - I have a side mounted 4x on the Mini, quickly attacheable/detacheable that allows me to use iron sights - in case I wanted to shoot further than 100 yards but I do not see myself doing that except for hunting.
I need the red dot to cut down the time to aim, not increase accuracy or distance.
Besides cutting teh field of view and necessitating closing of one eye, having a magnification sight is a great insentive to spend that extra second or two aiming - and get one's head ventilated in the process.
medicboy - Yes, I am limited to a mini-14, living in NYC. It's not such a POS for the money and can be made considerably more accurate with $80 and some work - which I am doing. It's fun to tinker but if I had a choice, I would have gone with an AR or an M1A or some other rifle.
Hopefully I'll leave NYC eventually and install the sight I am getting now on another weapon.
Scooter - that's why I wanted co-witnessing. to be able to practice with the iron sights and use them in case the battery dies before advertised 1,000-10,000 hours. We all know how those things are...
I considered a Trijicon that does not need battery - but it does not mount low enough.
miko
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the idea is the iron sights on a rifel can br brought to bear in a single skeet shooter type motion.
with aimpoint style there is a almost non perceptible ajustment to the sights picture with some interuption of sight with the rim of the scope.
with a rifle those really really bright end pieces are great but really unless its low light you dont need thos.
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yo miko2d sorry dude i posted my last message then went to work just got home again so didnt know about this being time critical. could we use electronic mail for future comms on this?
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Aimpoint rocks, tritium sucks.
Got my Aimpoint ML2. Good work, Sweden! You look throught it with one eye and have the other eye open and see absolutely no difference in the pucture - as clear, as bright, no shift, etc.
I also tried the tritium-lighted reflex sights. The cheap ones with large ocular and light collector still create a dot that is invisible in bright light - and brighter than necessary in the dark. Especially once one's eyes adapt, one has no way to tone it down.
The much more expensive Trijicon has small window, the dot that was visible better in the bright light but the picture was noticeably darker due to tinted?/layered? optics (which may be the reason why the dot was visible). In the low light conditions the dot is too bright and the extra darkening really hurts.
If I need to see worse in the dark, I can just put on sunglasses or close my eyes altogether. :)
I did not look at EOTech since it would not allow me co-witness anyway.
miko