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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: muckmaw on April 08, 2003, 01:20:50 PM

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: muckmaw on April 08, 2003, 01:20:50 PM

I jst came across an item that I want to list on E-bay, but I need a French speaker to translate it for me.

It's an old zippo lighter, with a Red Square on it. Inside the square is a white "Iron Cross" type design with the number 9, and a sword going down through it. On either side is a white symbol common of french military. (Not sure what they are called, but they look like corn on the cob partially peeled)

Under this reads "Ratione Aut VI"

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: ra on April 08, 2003, 01:23:20 PM

the little flower is called fleur de l'isle, or something like that.

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: Furball on April 08, 2003, 01:26:42 PM

just had a quick search on google for u and found this http://pages.windhamantiques.com/5079/PictPage/1920653376.html  

not sure if thats French, might be latin?

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: straffo on April 08, 2003, 02:09:30 PM

What do you want me to translate ?

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: qts on April 08, 2003, 02:22:44 PM

The Fleur de Lys is the sybol of the UK's Prince of Wales. 'Ratione Aut VI' looks like Latin to me. Are there no other words, even faded? Is the 'VI' not 'Vi'? Then it would mean 'By Reason or by Force'. Good Latin would be 'Aut ratione aut vi'.

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: muckmaw on April 08, 2003, 02:41:38 PM

QTS wins the cigar!

Thanks, it is vi, not VI!

Thanks for the help!

Title: I need a Frenchman here...
Post by: Mini D on April 08, 2003, 02:44:04 PM

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I need a Frenchman here...

My suggestion to you is to wait until April 1 of next year and give Straffo a call.

MiniD