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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: K-KEN on September 13, 2000, 01:03:00 AM
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Consensus in the last few evenings is:
"what-no night"...."they deleted the night"...and so on. Ya know, as much as I fly this SIM and enjoy it....or try, there are a few things that bother me. Mainly, most of the "crybabies" in here don't like the darkness. To me, it is a blessing and a "Feature and a Benefit". Hey, the Moon is an awesome sight. I want to keep it. WAY Cool. Now, integrate the moon and the night to last ....say, 30 minutes. Anyone that says they don't like darkness, needs to cancel their account. <or get a note from home to stay up> That is the very best thing-In My Opinion, that sets this SIM apart. I am just one player and one voice, but I hope I can get some attention to this problem and issue. HTC, the darkness is worthy.....don't remove it because of the few "crybabies" that are here. Add it back-please. I'd rather give up a few clouds or ammo-in the nmys planes! hehehe
K-KEN
http://www.cutthroats.com/ (http://www.cutthroats.com/)
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This lack of night thing has come with relatively no-one even saying a thing about it. I wonder then, it must not be as popular as i thought, pitty (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Bring back the night!!!!!! It was *SO* cool (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
come on....
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I WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT THE NIGHT BACK!!!!!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Maik
<JG54 Gruenherz>
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The only problem I had with the night is that it was so pitch black. If we could have a night with a bright moon, nice moon btw HT and Co., where you could still make out some shapes I would be all for it.
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Night has a moon, though the light sourcing of a full moon on the landscape might be hard to mimic....
BRING BACK THE NIGHT PLEASE!!!
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I thought night was really cool...
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LJK Kratzer
Geschwader Kommodore, LuftJägerKorps
www.luftjagerkorps.com (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com/)
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When I logged on to 1.04 for the first time I wondered what the hell wassitting on the horizon when the sun when down, when I realised it was the moon I thought 'hey cool perhaps we will have some moonlight' then the moon went straight back down...what a farce! I was then told that a bunch of players had whined about it and it got removed! is this right? if so why I have I not see nany whiny posts on the BB about it? are they covert whiners who mailed HT direct? if so stand and be counted you dweebs that are scared of the dark! It makes me laugh that so many people harp on about realism but they are happy to stay in an arena with perpetual daylight! oh yes really realistic! For christs sake the night did'nt last very long anyway so why can't we have it?!?!
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I was hoping the night would stay around longer instead of shorter.
Night fighting is very hard but is soooo cool. I love the night<I can piss out the cockpit and no one sees me> and hope we can get it back soon.
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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
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Bring on the night!
Ya gave us two bombers that used the night and took away the night at the same time. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Gives us's a 1 to 2 hour night. Please.
Oh yeah, have icons turn off after the sun goes down. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) Turn icons back on once sun comes up. Please as well.
Sisu
-Karnak
[This message has been edited by Karnak (edited 09-13-2000).]
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Turning off the night is news to me (must have missed the announcement somewhere).
I vote for getting the night back, if it is indeed gone. Never had any problems with it that I could not adjust to.
Fury
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Yes, please bring back the night! It added to the game so much in the strategic area...I miss it.
Lars
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Yep, I liked the night, bring it back! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (only thing I didn't like was the contrast glare/dazzle when you brought the map clipboard up!! )
Regards
'Nexx'
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I liked the Night, especially if we could get some weak moonlight.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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bring on the night
i couldn't stand another hour of daylight
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Yes I vote for the come back of the night !!
Please HT !!!!
and add the Dewoitine d520 too ;-) and some other early planes ...
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I want the night back tooooooooooooooooo!
It was the perfect time for ground opps, or sneaking a VERY low c-47 into a hot field.
Sure it was harder, thats part of it's appeal.
Bring it back for at least an hour, preferably clocked to hit between 10 & 12:00.
Sweet moon btw! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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It appears they completely axed the code that allows for the night shading and lighting. I tried offline to get night to see how the moon appeared in that back drop.. doh! it's a completely lit sky with a moon floating around..
As homer simpson says "NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" :-)
And yes, please give us back the night.
-SW
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punt (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Bring it back and make it longer (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hell, I never even got to SEE the night yet, and its GONE!
I vote for it back.
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I tried it offline too Wulfie I used .time 5 30 2
or .time 5 30 1 I cant remember which.
But there was night offline
(http://www.members.home.net/1baddawg/lanc.jpg)
Im sure nighttime is just under refinement otherwise why make a moon?
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I dont think thay took it out. Read the Readme..Thay added a Moon and just set the time to start in the morning rather in the after noon. Its still there, has any one been on at all time of the game sence new Virsion?
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I would like to add my vote for bringing back night as it was before 1.04.
I think a great compromise could be struck if some dim illumination from the moon could be added. That would still allow "night" ops but give those who really don't like "night" a bone.
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Sox, yeah.....and I've watched as the sun magically blips from the west to the east without any darkness in between.
Swoop
P.S. Bring back the night.
P.P.S. And make it longer than b4.
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Originally posted by Baddawg:
I tried it offline too Wulfie I used .time 5 30 2
or .time 5 30 1 I cant remember which.
But there was night offline
Hmmm you're right. .time 5 30 (doesn't matter here) sets it to 5:30AM right? How come 4:30AM isn't dark at all? It's wierd, only time I can get dark is between 5 and 6AM...???
Thanks!
-SW
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Put it back and make it longer please.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Yeah, remove sun, make night in MA 24 hours long. My vote. Also remove icons pls, it will make it even more fun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Fariz
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I say bring on the night and maybe add some improvements to it e.g. instead of icons appearing at 6k simulate the reduced visibility by no icons till 3K. Moonlight is fine with me except that the hair growth keeps getting in my eyes.
Beeg
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[This message has been edited by Beegerite (edited 09-14-2000).]
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What??..no night time anymore?
It was a cool feature...please put it back.
Ex.
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I can see from Baddawg's pic that the moon is porked!
Fury
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MAKE IT BLACK AND LONG!!!
hehe couldnt resist
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"..he shoots fire out of his eyes and lightning bolts out of his arse..."
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Have not had the time to be much online after the 1.04 release.
But...
If the night is gone, BRING IT BACK, and as the whiners (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) above says, make it last longer.
That was also one of the parts I enjoyed the most in 1.03, when it became dusk and later night, even if I did not see it much.(The days where to long) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
PS. Who the f*** needs combat trim ?
I shure dont, I am a poor pilot anyway (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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(http://home.sol.no/~laerga/lassel.gif)
The Wild Vikings
Commanding Officer
lasse-
[This message has been edited by lasse (edited 09-14-2000).]
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Nights are for romance, sleeping and LANCASTERS!
Bring back the night, please! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I can see from Baddawg's pic that the moon is porked!
Fury
The bastards! they overmodeled the Sea of Tranquillity!!!!!!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Please bring back the night. It was the only time I felt safe while flying (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
JimBear
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Bring back the night, it added a new dimension to the game.
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Oh Please bring back the night!!!!!Yeah, I usually do worse at night then in the day in AH, but it is just SOOOO Coool. Oh BTW, Could you add the bloody paw print to the moon when the DD are needed in the arena? JUST KIDDING!!!
I really thought night time was great! The only problem I had with it was the brightness of the cockpits. But that is just one small problem and no reason to remove the night. So, HT, a really great reply to this thread would be, `We just removed the Night until we fix some bugs and add some thunderstorms at night::WHY? Because it would look so cool!!::: and....'. Well, I can dream. But if anyone could pull that off it's HTC. Of course, how about just adding some stars in that night sky? Whatever you do, just know that night time was too cool to remove. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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[This message has been edited by Sundog (edited 09-14-2000).]
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Bring back the night, and make it long nights too.
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ezdoc
48th Fighter Group "Checkertails"
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Sure, they throw in a nice moon but ditch the darkness! On top of that they throw in a Lancaster which kicks butt for night raids. Plus a Ju-88 painted REALLY dark green. Is it just me or was HTC a little hypocritical here?
Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School (http://www.worldaccessnet.com/~delta6)
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I sure hope you folks don't think that HTC would add sunrise, sunset, then a moon with 1.04 and then NOT give us night time back when it's ready?
-Westy
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I didnt like the pitch black part of the night, but its easy for those of us who didnt like it to log for a few minutes to accommodate those who do, bring it back (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Shamus
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I agree with Westy, but I still wanted to log my vote to bring it back.
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One if by land, two if by sea....
BRING BACK THE NIGHT ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
yeager
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"Workin on the night moves,
Try'n to make those
Frontpage, drive-in news.
Workin on the night moves...
And it was summer time"
Or to put it another way, bring on the night (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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Sabre, a.k.a. Rojo
(S-2, The Buccaneers)
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My Friend Westy...
They don't delete planes, to change ammo loads or flight characteristics. This may have been a mere mistake, but it happened and I, for one, don't want to see it stay away.
My reason, like many others, is that it brings more realism to the SIM and added pleasure to many of us. Several have stated, it's a good time to sneak vehicles or a JU88 or Lancaaster into an area.
The Moon is very cool. I have even considered asking for a 100% Night-time arena. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) A place to practice night skills.
In WWII, the Allies split up daytime and night time raids. Once HTC adds the Pacific arena, or whatever it will be called, I cant imagine the fun- hehehe
<almost gives me a "woody">
I think a one hour block of night is fair. Even, 40 mins of darkness, and 10 mins of dawn and dusk each. Those folks who don't prefer it, can land and rearm, or grab a vehicle, or gun for a buff.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) BUT, it is gone, and I want it back too!
That said, landing lights on the planes and lighted buildings or runways..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) <just another idea> Fire balls will light the night! hehehe
Originally posted by Westy:
I sure hope you folks don't think that HTC would add sunrise, sunset, then a moon with 1.04 and then NOT give us night time back when it's ready?
-Westy
K-KEN
http://www.cutthroats.com/ (http://www.cutthroats.com/)
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[This message has been edited by K-KEN (edited 09-15-2000).]
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This needed a punt!
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I hear ya KKen (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I too want it back. I'd heard online that the reason was they were making some changes to the night mode to make it better. I hope so. I too liked the arena when it got dark. Not crazy about the infallable icons that give one way but it is very cool.
-Westy
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Sorry RIP, but I didn't follow the statement?
Call me lame or stoopid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) What needs a punt? Ya kinda left me hangin' on that one.
Can ewe be more specific?
Originally posted by Ripsnort:
This needed a punt!
K-KEN
http://www.cutthroats.com/ (http://www.cutthroats.com/)
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Punt = Bump.
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Another Punt, And I vote Icons reduced still further during night. Please bring it back bigger & better than before
TTFN
snafu
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Bring the Night back!
And put night fighters with dot dar in their own sectors!! P-61, P-38M, Ju88 Night Fighter, B26 NF mod, the Mossie... dangit! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I believe I saw, in another thread, HT say night was removed because the MA #s dropped during the night time. People would go to the training arena or the SEA and goof off til it was dawn again. BFHD! Some people aren't going to like it. And they dinnae even give it a chance with the moon light (I never saw the moon while in the MA, save peeking over the horizon before the time warp).
As for icons, remove them beyond D1.5. Except for the radar equipped night fighters. Give us the tell tale exhaust to home in on and you have to get just about inside guns range to know if it's friendly or enemy. Radar-equipped night fighters (HINT: P-61B) get icons as they currently are. Probably a real bear to program/setup, but I think it's be worth it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Bring on Monica and luftwabble birds that had the detectors, the Widows, etc etc etc (we've already got the Lancs (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
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FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD, PLEASE GIVE US THE P61!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and night too! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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And if not the P-61, a Mossie could serve the role of Night Fighter, Fast Bomber, anti-anything we want (Read FB Mk. VI), and they already have the Ju-88 to modify into a nightfighter! Hell, they could give us a P-38M! (I know they were few, but it would be a quick solution here just like in WW2 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ).
Just (I make it sound simple, don't I...just)make the moon another lightsource in the game, with only about 1/8th the illumination of the Sun.
To simulate the Radar in fighters, make it so only the Night Fighters have the pinpoint radar on the cockpit clipboards (with the ability to only pinpoint aircraft within 1 grid of the aircraft), and all other aircraft only recieve the grid (Bar) Radar while flying at night.
I was just trying to figure out a way to incorporate `night' fighting into the game using what is already existing. How would you guy's/gals implement it? Maybe we will stumble across a way to do this that could be tested out in the SEA or something like that if HTC see's enough interest and it isn't too difficult to incorporate.
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Since this seems to be a `Hot' Topic...
:::Punt:::
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*Hurl* (http://smilecwm.tripod.com/cwm2/puke.gif)
Oh yeah, bring back the night plz (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps (http://www.luftjagerkorps.com)
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punt (hehe)
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Night was a nice change I vote for it back and longer then B4 also no icons cept close. and landing lights... yea thats the ticket!!
What this is a game?? noooo