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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: lazs2 on April 09, 2003, 08:10:05 AM
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I think that there is room for a vital role for the un in the rebuilding of iraq...
I believe that they should be the ones who collect money from all the members of the un who oppossed the war and the coalition and then they can use those funds to spread humanitarian aid.
France can send bad waiters.
Can't think of any use for russia or germany.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Can't think of any use for russia or germany.
lazs
Vodka, beer, and fat hairy chicks?
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Cleaning the toilets?
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you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....
you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....
do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....
are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....
wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.
France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....
congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....
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The Iraqi people know who liberated them, that's evident from the signs and cheers.
We won't give back the billions owed France and Russia, perhaps they should have collected up front from their illegal arms sales. Not to mention the billions they have made bilking oil from Iraq.
Germany, France, and Russia are not 3rd world countries, you are correct. But they are close. We listen to them all the time. We take their position into consideration, weigh the effects of not listening to them, then act in our best interest.
The coalition will oversee setting up the new gov't in Iraq, the UN will not.
The coalition will oversee rebuilding Iraq, the UN will not.
Germany, France, and Russia will whine and stamp their feet, but be powerless to do anything about it.
They were quite content to let the Iraqi people live under Saddam's regime, and interviews with the incoming leaders in Iraq show this. They know who their friends are.
Go cry on each other's shoulders.
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Maybe they can all get together and do the research and documentation on what happened to all the Iraqis that just disappeared into Saddam's prison system.
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are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
Hussein owes that money. Russia and France extended him a multi-billion dollar line of credit, now they get shafted.
stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....
Ask Iraqi Arabs what they think of the UN.
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Originally posted by ra
Hussein owes that money. Russia and France extended him a multi-billion dollar line of credit, now they get shafted.
They bet on the wrong horse
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3rd world country? wasn't this suppossed to be a quagmire? another vietnam? what happened to all the iraquis dropping burning rags on our imperialist tanks? What happened to the 1,000's of dead coalition forces and the fierce house to house urban warfare?
slo.... admit it... yu are pissed that the U.S. and England fielded the best trained, best equipped and best led army of all times and did in a way that was a benchmark for humanitarian warfare.. You are pissed that every day it is bieng proven that we were right and most of all....
the french were wrong and irrelevant.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
3rd world country? wasn't this suppossed to be a quagmire? another vietnam? what happened to all the iraquis dropping burning rags on our imperialist tanks? What happened to the 1,000's of dead coalition forces and the fierce house to house urban warfare?
slo.... admit it... yu are pissed that the U.S. and England fielded the best trained, best equipped and best led army of all times and did in a way that was a benchmark for humanitarian warfare.. You are pissed that every day it is bieng proven that we were right and most of all....
the french were wrong and irrelevant.
lazs
you live in your own bubble you created lazs, as usual, you listen too yourself talk....
I was against the formula your govr. used too start this.....which is the PRE-EMPTIVE Doctrine...still against that today.
did you do good is IRAQ....yes
but wooow wait a minute....IRAQ IS A 3rd WORLD COUNTRY.....you just fought a 3rd world country....I really don't think the Russians woulda been so easy....even with your new warfare tactics.....
the UN will give the new Iraqis Govr. the legitimacy it needs to be part of the world body.....not the US....you liberated a tyranical leader...yes...now get out...or occupation will be considered by arabs....Jews have that trouble today....
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Originally posted by SLO
you live in your own bubble you created lazs, as usual, you listen too yourself talk....
I was against the formula your govr. used too start this.....which is the PRE-EMPTIVE Doctrine...still against that today.
did you do good is IRAQ....yes
but wooow wait a minute....IRAQ IS A 3rd WORLD COUNTRY.....you just fought a 3rd world country....I really don't think the Russians woulda been so easy....even with your new warfare tactics.....
the UN will give the new Iraqis Govr. the legitimacy it needs to be part of the world body.....not the US....you liberated a tyranical leader...yes...now get out...or occupation will be considered by arabs....Jews have that trouble today....
keep sitting on the sidelines stomping your feet.
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Originally posted by SLO
you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....
No, I think the fact that the Iraqi people elect their government will give them the legitimacy that the UN can't.
you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....
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They'll send their representatives wherever they want to, neither the U.S. led coalition nor the UN lead gutless cowards will control them.
do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....
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No, we don't want to control what the rest of the world thinks, evidently the UN and the coalition of gutless cowards does though. Want Canada to join them? Be our guest.
are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
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Why should we? The French and the Russians sold illegal weapons and materials to the Iraqis. Are you so stupid as to think the U.S. should pay the French and the Russians for something that they shouldn't have sold to begin with?
stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....
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We aren't staying. As soon as the Iraqi citizens can set up their own government, we're out of there. The U.K. has already found an Iraqi to set up and get started in Basra. But then, you knew that, or you would if you were that smart and cared more about Iraq than you do about hating the U.S.
wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.
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No, we fought a despicable murderous dictator who threatened the world and savagely brutalized a nation. Something the rest of the world couldn't seem to find the courage to do. You're somewhat welcome.
France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....
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No, but they are quickly degenerating into that class. Especially when they refuse to help clean up the mess they helped create. Sure, we'll listen to them whine, the racket is deafening, it almost drowns out the whimpering coming from up north. Monkey brains? Oh, you mean Chirac, or his panty waisted hump boy that is prime minister of that little colony of his in Montreal?
congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....
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Someone had to do it, the gutless cowards in the UN, like France, Russia, and Germany never would have done it. Not in a month, not in a year, and not even in a decade.
Oh, and we don't need your congratulations, the gratitude of the Iraqi citizens is far more rewarding than your meaningless whimpering drivel.
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Originally posted by SLO
(1) you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....
(2) you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....
(3) do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....
(4) are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
(5) wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.
(6) France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....
(7) congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....
1.) Since were currently in the process of removing the current government, we'll cross the "new government" bridge when we get to it.
2.) Im sure the Iraq FM will be sent to the UN. Whats your point here?
3.) No. We have no reason to control your opinion because, quite frankly, it doesnt really matter.
4.) "Give back?" The money is owed to France et al by Saddam, not Iraq, and not the United States. We understand that youre upset you wont be seeing any of the return on weapons and goods supplied to Iraq on credit, but hey - you win some, you loose some.
5.) My President can beat up your President.
6.) Great example of a deperate please for attention. France, Germany and Russia are not third world countries, youre right, but lets not overstate their importance either. All three countries are behaving like a child who has not gotten their cup cake before nap time. Second world - best scenario.
7.) Thank you. It wasnt easy, but it was worth it. Stop whining or we add the forementioned second world countires to our "list."
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The Iraqi army is/was the 6th largest in the world....3rd world? I think not, and if they are 3rd world what dose that say about the French/Russian/Germany military that sold them their weapons?
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you notice that its ONLY americans saying my opinion means nothing.....
you notice Blair telling Bush that HE HAS TO INCLUDE the UN.....
for the World Bank org. Irak is considered a 3rd world country....you want proof...go search it yourself.
you guys are on a high dose right now...understandable.
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Sniffle, sniffle!!
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Originally posted by SLO
you notice that its ONLY americans saying my opinion means nothing.....
No, it's just that you seem to be so bent on trashing the U.S. that's all YOU see.
you notice Blair telling Bush that HE HAS TO INCLUDE the UN.....
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you notice Blair also said the coalition should NOT allow the UN to CONTROL the rebuilding of Iraq. Of course you don't, your jealosy, hatred, and agenda blind you.
for the World Bank org. Irak is considered a 3rd world country....you want proof...go search it yourself.
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of course the fact that Iraq was under UN sanctions, and failing to repay their debts DESPITE having the most potential oil wealth among the majority of Arab nations has nothing to do with how a FINANCIAL institution rates Iraq.
Oh, and it was YOUR position that Iraq was a 3rd world country in regards to MILITARY action. However, YOU, as is typical, attempt to bring the financial side into it. This wasn't an economic contest, it was military. Make up YOUR mind on how you intend to argue this.
you guys are on a high dose right now...understandable. [/B]
We're not on a high dose of anything. We don't need YOU to "understand". You make attempts to trash the coalition and the U.S. in particular, for reasons of hatred or jealosy, or both, and then you cannot back up what you say. You show OBVIOUS anti American tendencies and then when you get called on it, you say "only Americans disagree with me". That's the BEST you can do. And it is both tired and pitiful. Enjoy sucking up to Chirac, and taking your place in that irrelevant part of the world that he inhabits.
I would like to personally invite you to move the UN HQ into Montreal. Spend your tax dollars to pay for it, including construction, maintenance, and security. Then go provide the majority of the money, military equipment, and manpower to do what the UN tells you must be done. See how long your economy and your military can hold up. Oh, and I have great respect for the Canadian military, they seem to be much braver and more intelligent than you, Chirac, Montreal in general, and your PM. They probably have more class than to take out their frustrations on a children's hockey team like the bunch of frustrated little gutless cowards that seem to infest your city. However, the UN and France in particular would likely fit in just fine.
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Have them take out the trash and clean up a little bit.
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Just a couple cents....
-Just heard an intersting discussion about "Odious Debt." Basically, it asserts that a "liberated" country (i.e. - one formerly ruled by a dictator) should not be held liable for debts assumed by the dictator, since it could be assumed that had the people had any say in their government, those debts might reasonably not have been assumed.
Using this argument, it could be argued that a newly "democratic" Iraq would not owe that money, especially since it could hinder the economic reconstruction of the country. Of course, there are arguments as to whether "odious debt" should be employed, based on its effects to international finance. A complication is how to determine which governments actually qualify under the term "dictatorship." Does communism apply? etc.etc.
-As far as U.N. involvement in a post-Saddam Iraq. They didn't want to remove him from power, why should they have any important role in establishing a new government? Why, too, should the U.S.? I really hope that Bush is true to his word in his desire to allow the Iraqis to pick their own government. There is no doubt that an occupation of Iraq by the U.S. for an extended period of time would be bad for all concerned.
-Also, all the "anti-war" U.N. council members shouldn't complain about being left out of reconstruction contracts for the country. If they had supported the U.S., then of course they should be included. I see no reason why they should be rewarded. The local newspaper recently quoted France as saying it felt it was entitled to 25% of the oil revenues in a post-war Iraq! That money should go to Iraq! On the other hand, the U.S. should share a little of the reconstruction money with all the countries that did support us. I hate to see Bush rewarding all his oil cronies... what about Spain and Bulgaria, Australia, etc. etc.?
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better than the comedy channel
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I believe that post war iraq will look a lot like post war japan and germany after WWII and the Marshall plan.... iraqi's will administer U.S. plans until they can take over themselves... we , and they, certainly don't need a 195 man committe voting on how ever little detail should be handled.
I believe the un should do what they do best.... hand out the humanitarian aid and look important.
I belive that perhaps we should move the un to france and that the U.S. , and every member of the un, should all have an equal vote and all pay an equal share in any un action. The bill for humanitarian aid to iraq or any other country should be split equally 195 (or so) ways.
sorry slo... you are irrelevant and wrong on this one... face it. you prayed for a quagmire and it never happened.... boroda is still waiting for the gas soaked rags falling unto U.S. tanks. You both are going by how it woulda happened if your countries had been running the show and are pissed because we aren't as incompetent and cruel as you so we get better results. far from the U.S. being given a lesson... we gave u guys one.
lazs
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hmm If I remember correctly....my countries soldiers are still in Afgan territory...helping out with that countries problems....
and a couple of soldiers died cause of a US Airforce mistake....you gonna take that away now....or have you just forgotten it, cause its NOT THE NEWS OF THE DAY
and UN-OFFICIALLY Canada has a few canoes(warships) in the gulf region.....
wanna explain the jealousy part to me please...cause I really don't now what to be jealous about...that you fought a 3rd world country....yeeehaaaa...that surely would make me jealous.
I will repeat again......hope you get it this time and stop your stupid comments about bashing the US....
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR GOVR. PRE-EMPTIVE DOCTRINE.
like most of the WORLD....
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR GOVR. THAT PUTS ASIDE THE WORLD BODY KNOWN AS THE U.N.
like most of the WORLD...
but once this war started....I WISH MY GOVR WOULDA CHANGED ITS MIND AND HELPED OUT.....In my book you do not leave a close allie like the US standing alone...EVEN IF WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH ITS POLICIES.
Now would anyone say WHERE I bashed the US....
please show me where the jealousy part is....
where I my stompin my feet on the side lines....
I already said in another post that the US/Brits where doing a FINE JOB IN IRAQ.....
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well ... i suppose that we will just have to disagree with the "pre emptive" thing. 12 years isn't exactly jumping the gun in my opinion.
I notiiced that you didn't comment on my thoughts on the un? I think you know that it is an incompetent, corrupt and useless entity. I think you know that they should have nothing to do with the economical or political development of the new iraq.
If WMD are found then will you admit that their "inspectors" were pretty much worthless?
you will admit that if france had taken on the iraquis that france woulda got it's butt whipped? So.... either iraq was not (it is now) a third world military power or.... france is a even less?
lazs
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Hmmmm....where was that link regarding a request to be relieved of the commitment to provide 1,500 peacekeepers in Afghanistan....probably the National Post online.
Read up on your own news, SLO
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Calling the Whaaaaaaaaaaabulance!
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Originally posted by SLO
hmm If I remember correctly....my countries soldiers are still in Afgan territory...helping out with that countries problems....
and a couple of soldiers died cause of a US Airforce mistake....you gonna take that away now....or have you just forgotten it, cause its NOT THE NEWS OF THE DAY
and UN-OFFICIALLY Canada has a few canoes(warships) in the gulf region.....
wanna explain the jealousy part to me please...cause I really don't now what to be jealous about...that you fought a 3rd world country....yeeehaaaa...that surely would make me jealous.
I will repeat again......hope you get it this time and stop your stupid comments about bashing the US....
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR GOVR. PRE-EMPTIVE DOCTRINE.
like most of the WORLD....
I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR GOVR. THAT PUTS ASIDE THE WORLD BODY KNOWN AS THE U.N.
like most of the WORLD...
but once this war started....I WISH MY GOVR WOULDA CHANGED ITS MIND AND HELPED OUT.....In my book you do not leave a close allie like the US standing alone...EVEN IF WE DIDN'T AGREE WITH ITS POLICIES.
Now would anyone say WHERE I bashed the US....
please show me where the jealousy part is....
where I my stompin my feet on the side lines....
I already said in another post that the US/Brits where doing a FINE JOB IN IRAQ.....
We know that Canada has troops in Afghanistan, that is NOT the issue.
I wish we could "take away" the deaths of those Canadian soldiers. No, we have not forgotten. Be assured that the two pilots involved are in much more trouble than they would be if they had killed U.S. soldiers.
Regarding your warships, either take part officially, and stand up to be counted, or just forget it.
Regarding jealosy, well, then show me your TRUE motive for your continued line of crap.
Didn't you call Bush "monkey brains"? I'd say you're bashing the U.S. Don't like being told to stop bashing the U.S.? Don't do it then.
You don't like pre-emptive action? Tough toejam, they haven't come on YOUR soil and killed 3,000 people yet. We refuse to sit on our hands and wait for them to come back, and hope that they don't.
We had no choice but to bypass the UN, the French, the Germans, and the Russians made SURE of that. And I didn't see your candy assed PM pushing the UN to act. Once it became crystal clear that France, Russia, and Germany would prevent any action by the UN, Saddam had a free ticket to do as he pleased. You want to blame the bypassing of the UN on anybody, blame it on France, Germany, and Russia, and take a heaping helping of blame for your leaders too.
If the U.S./U.K. led coalition was SO WRONG, then why would you ever support it? Again, make up your mind what is right and what is wrong and take your stand.
You've been pitching your little hissy fit about how wrong the coalition of the willing is, looks like stomping your feet on the sidelines to me.
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well.... ah... thank you virgil.... that about covers it.
lazs
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DAMN SLO..seems like to me your getting really screwed up in your arguments and logic. Maybe I'm just tired.
You say we wont have an easy time w/Russia-France. Like since when are we gonna go after them? What prompted this comparision.
You mentioned we took on a 3rd world country... well yea we did. And your point is? It isnt the fact we won..that was a given. Its the fact we did it w/such min destruction-death compared to other past conflicts. Take a look at Bagdad vie CNN or whatever..its still there isnt it. Now..see if your vaunted France or Russian forces could do the same as US/Brit?
You then say that you have troops in afgansistan..thats great. We're glad they're with us there..but wtf does this have to do w/Iraq? You mention friendly fire incident, that certainly sucked but once again... the argument here?
I think your just screaming all red faced and pissed w/pooty in your pants cause you didnt get your way concerning this war. Lots of US bodybags coming home so you could place some sort of smug smile on your face and say "I told you handsomehunkes"
Go change your diaper.
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SLO, please take your Riddlen.
wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.
Who gloated about that in this thread? You bring it up out of the blue and you sound just like my kids when jealous of the other's toys or getting to go somewhere neat.
Last I heard, France would never recognize a new government in Iraq. And I believe France, Russia and Germany won't expell Saddam's ambassador's in their countries. Why should they have any say in a new government. I bet they'd just put Saddam back in power so they can make their lucrative oil and weapons deals again.
I don't see any Iraqis kissing the photos of Chiraq or Schroeder on the streets of Iraq.
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hmm I see I ain't getting anywhere but getting ganged banged again.....by Americans of course...what did I expect.
calling G.W.Bush a monkey brains is not dishin the US but its leader....you do it yourself.
Ignoring 3/4 of the worlds opinion in my book is STUPID....and that is what you are doing right now.....
just because someone doesn't want WAR means he's a fuggin wimp....IT MEANS HE DOESN'T want WAR...you put the wimp part in there....not me
BatDog what I meant is that when France Germany or Russia say something...trust me...you do listen.
Canada DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THE US DOES...we can NOT be at 2 places at 1 time.....
My govr. views are not exactly MINE....just like some do not agree with your own govr.....does that mean they are dishing the US.
pooty in my pants...smartass you are....like as if i'm happy that body bags are coming home....you fuggin moron....I see your intellect level is way down there to say something as stupid as that...you wanna attack me go ahead.....but do not use those kinds of words...handsomehunk
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Slo, seriously, if ya stop smoking that sh*t ya just might get a clue.
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Originally posted by SLO
hmm I see I ain't getting anywhere but getting ganged banged again.....by Americans of course...what did I expect.
Well, again, you just can't seem to grasp that evidently, the people here don't agree with what you're saying. The fact that they are Americans probably has to do with the fact that those you are talking about are Americans. I guess Americans aren't allowed to defend their country.
calling G.W.Bush a monkey brains is not dishin the US but its leader....you do it yourself.
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I suppose you mean "dissin". I'm a redneck American, I don't "diss" people. I didn't call Bush monkey brains. I think he's smarter than you or your PM. Since YOU choose to insult the President of the United States, don't get so hurt when I say your PM with his French heritage is a panty waisted candy assed Chirac bellybutton kisser.
Ignoring 3/4 of the worlds opinion in my book is STUPID....and that is what you are doing right now.....
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Who says that 75% of the world is against what the coalition of the willing is doing? The French? Your PM? The UN? What about the 50 plus countries in the coalition of the willing? They don't count? Majority is always right, no matter what? Again, 75% of the world was not attacked on 9/11/01. Again, 75% of the world hasn't sworn to defeat terrorism wherever it appears.
just because someone doesn't want WAR means he's a fuggin wimp....IT MEANS HE DOESN'T want WAR...you put the wimp part in there....not me
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No one WANTS war, can you not get that through your head? Had the French, the UN, and the rest not told Saddam he could do as he pleased because the UN would be prevented from acting, perhaps war could have been avoided. However, once war becomes inevitable, only a candy bellybutton runs about saying war is never necessary, and war is wrong. And only a fool hides from the inevitable.
BatDog what I meant is that when France Germany or Russia say something...trust me...you do listen.
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Yes, we hear their whine loud and clear.
Canada DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THE US DOES...we can NOT be at 2 places at 1 time.....
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So, even if you didn't have the resources to support the action, you could have given the support at the UN, and indeed for the world to see. Japan didn't have the resources either, but they supported the coalition, they didn't kiss Chirac's prettythang and work with him against the U.S. in the UN and in front of the world. Some ally your PM turns out to be. Next excuse please, or have you run out.
My govr. views are not exactly MINE....just like some do not agree with your own govr.....does that mean they are dishing the US.
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Disagreement is one thing, constant attacks and attempts to derail are another. Once again, I THINK the word you're trying to use is "diss". Learn something else, it's slang that most of us don't use and don't care for.
pooty in my pants...smartass you are....like as if i'm happy that body bags are coming home....you fuggin moron....I see your intellect level is way down there to say something as stupid as that...you wanna attack me go ahead.....but do not use those kinds of words...handsomehunk [/B]
You most often get what you ask for. Enjoy.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Slo, seriously, if ya stop smoking that sh*t ya just might get a clue.
funny I thought you where clueless...go figure;)
you guys are all bashing me cause I don't SAY what you want me too....but thats OK:D
its OK to bash someone with a different opinion.....makes you all feel good fighting a 10 on 1 fight....:p
now what YOU don't understand is that what your telling me is my opinion means nothing...your bashing the UN...for which I'm part of...cause my country is just not big enough to do without...
so here you are BASHING the only system to allow me and my country mates to voice OUR opinions...but thats OK right.
self centered rightious ego maniacs....is what you sound like...you can bash my system...but to bash yours is not OK.
your the handsomehunk who needs to get a clue....now would you like a French translation of that:D
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Ya know Slo, when ya piss into the wind ya get wet. Makes you smell bad too.
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Another perfect example of someone that doesn't understand that "free speech" is a two way street, not a one-way highway.
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sticks an stones may break my bones..but words will never hurt me:p
capt virgin hills....stop......go away....your like a child with alot of candy.
and your opinion only sounds good too yourself....and your little boy toys like Laz an Batdog....
and here I thought dowding was gay....boy was I wrong;)
ok then have fun running everyone from these boards who have a different opinion....gonna be fun playing with yourselves:D
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Don't go away mad Slo.... If yer gonna be a whacko ya gotta expect some flako.
Yeah yeah, pretty bad.
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Originally posted by SLO
funny I thought you where clueless...go figure;)
you guys are all bashing me cause I don't SAY what you want me too....but thats OK:D
its OK to bash someone with a different opinion.....makes you all feel good fighting a 10 on 1 fight....:p
I'm not bashing you because of your opinion, I'm taking your opinion apart and showing you where I think it is wrong. I am however occaisionally bashing your presentation, because frankly, it sucks. I don't need any help either, you're doing a far better job of making an prettythang of yourself than I could do alone.
now what YOU don't understand is that what your telling me is my opinion means nothing...your bashing the UN...for which I'm part of...cause my country is just not big enough to do without...
so here you are BASHING the only system to allow me and my country mates to voice OUR opinions...but thats OK right.
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Quite the contrary, your opinion has meaning, and you are entitled to it. Yes, you are correct, I'm trashing the UN. It is a corrupted, useless, and impotent organization that has renderred itself irrelevant.
And contrary to your opinion, Canada is big enough to stand on its own. It does not need the UN to speak for it. In fact, the UN drowns it out. In all likelyhood, were it not for the UN, Canada would likely stand even closer to the U.S. Of course, you might not like that either. But at least you could speak for yourself and not have to let Chirac speak for you.
You and your country mates should stand up for yourselves, and not count on the UN to do it for you. I would hope that you are better than that.
self centered rightious ego maniacs....is what you sound like...you can bash my system...but to bash yours is not OK.
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WE are self righteous? WE are egomaniacs? That's priceless. YOU started the bashing here. YOU said the U.S. led coalition couldn't give the new Iraqi government legitmacy, as if the UN is somehow capable of over ruling everything, and is the only power in the world capable of recognizing a government as legitimate. YOU further suggest that being recognized by the governments of the coalition of the willing somehow prevents any new Iraqi government from being legitmate, simply because the UN didn't take control first and set it up. WE call BULLtoejam!! I suppose that neither Japan nor Germany are legitmate since the UN didn't put them in place.
your the handsomehunk who needs to get a clue....now would you like a French translation of that:D [/B]
Evidently YOU need the clue here, and no, I do not give a toejam to see your post in French.
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you want Canada to be closer to the US....
are you friggin nuts....
we are already your 53rd state...just in case ya didn't now that.....
and capt...I am not here to write an essai.....I dont have to go back and correct my mistakes....if you wanna do that...go ahead
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Originally posted by SLO
France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries..... :p
FALSE
Russia is definately considered a 3rd world country.
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Isn't Iraq classed as a 2nd World Country (under dictator ship?). Even if it's a 3rd World country, a dictator who spends more money on military might than on his own people is someone you should be very wary of.
Anyway, I do hope that the countries involved in 'liberating' Iraq get the spoils of rebuilding... only because it'll help fund the $$$$$$$ that it cost liberating - they've got to get their money back somehow. It is somewhat amusing that the countries who didn't take part are now really enthusiastic about the rebuilding, only because of the money they'll reap. Russia/France perhaps only want to earn money and not to spend it.
Either way, it was joyous watching the Iraqis celebrate Saddam's statue being pulled down in Baghdad.
As for monies owed to Russia/France, well, that's Saddam who owes the money and besides they should have been a little more careful with their contracts considering the current climate in Iraq over the last 12 years. Perhaps their audit office were wary, or was it just the leaderships smell of money?
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Originally posted by SLO
you want Canada to be closer to the US....
are you friggin nuts....
we are already your 53rd state...just in case ya didn't now that.....
I didn't say I wanted it, YOU said you wanted your government to back the U.S.
and capt...I am not here to write an essai.....I dont have to go back and correct my mistakes....if you wanna do that...go ahead [/B]
The word is essay. Perhaps you SHOULD go back and correct your errors. Maybe the time will allow you to clear your head. Then again, you might die of old age first.
Better yet, perhaps you should respond intelligently to my reply to your post. Maybe you should explain your position better, that way I wouldn't have to clarify it for you.
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Originally posted by BigGun
FALSE
Russia is definately considered a 3rd world country.
I always seemed to think that:-
1st World - Capitalist
2nd World - Socialist/Opressive Government
3rd World - No democratic government? Not sure exactly on it's classification??
Saddam did get elected, although I think the voters didn't have much of a choice! :(
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here's an idea: Call a snap referendum and let the Iraqi people to decide who shall oversee their reconstruction: The US and other coalition countries who risked the lives of their young people to get rid of the Butcher, or the UN and non-Coalition types who schemed to keep the *&^% in power for whatever reason, with coincidental benefits to their own persons, nations and/or organizations.
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I am looking more from a economic & financial market perspective, rather than political. Russia is definately not considered a developed market in a economic or finance sense. It would be considered an emerging market country. Maybe the term "third" is not right one.
Maybe the UN should dollar weight the voting system.....
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Seriously...is this just a troll or does he really mean this stuff?
I don't think I've seen anyone so full of piss and vinegar....amazing.
SLO, if you are medication then you probably should stop immediately...if not, then you should start immediately ;)
No b*llsh*tting here....seriously, you really sound pissed off because you don't like Bush and this war didn't go the way you thought/wanted it to go and are throwing a temper tantrum.
Oh well.
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again assuming stuff.....
capt virgin....I could do what you did....take your post and object to it point by point.....but I'm not you...and I really don't wanna be like you....cause that would be easy....all I have to do is agree too all of what you americans say....but since I have a diff. opinion then yours....I will always post what I think...ME...not what the other 15 want...as for grammical errors....stuff it girly boy
Drunky did you read...cause it doesn't look like it...sounds more of an opinion than anything else....your are on meds
I'm against all WARS....but since you ask....I really don't give a rats bellybutton about Iraq....you can do whatever the hell you want...think what you want...cause no matter what anyone says...your still gonna do what you want....hence the arrogance.
and you don't have too think you have to clarify anything for me capt. virgin tits....your arrogant view was enough.
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Originally posted by SLO
sticks an stones may break my bones..but words will never hurt me:p
Way to go, snappy retort. Not only is it a classic, it is right there on your very own intellectual level, about 6 years old, right?
capt virgin hills....stop......go away....your like a child with alot of candy.
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And another. The name is Virgil. V-I-R-G-I-L. I'm neither a child nor am I a big candy consumer. Stop? Go away? Why, because you and your arguement are both complete and utter failures?
and your opinion only sounds good too yourself....and your little boy toys like Laz an Batdog....
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I don't have "boy toys", that appears to be some sort of French/Canadian thing mostly. Evidently my opinion has plenty of merit, since I don't see the need to resort to the little tantrums and childish retorts that you seem to be so enthralled with. I am quite unconcerned with your sexual orientation, and what you find attractive. Myself, I'm a happily married heterosexual male with a cute wife and two children.
and here I thought dowding was gay....boy was I wrong;)
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Gay? You? Possibly. I'm sure Dowding would prefer you leave him out of your little perverted sexual escapades. And again, I am not "gay" nor do I feel the need to accuse others of it. I can support my opinion and arguements, and as such I don't need to make vain attempts to call into question the sexuality of others. Since you seem to be somehow obsessed homosexuality, the rest of us can only assume that you must be afflicted with some sort of sexual perversion.
ok then have fun running everyone from these boards who have a different opinion....gonna be fun playing with yourselves:D [/B]
Did I tell you that you were not free to express your opinion? Did I ask you to leave these boards? Did I suggest you leave these boards? The answer to all 3 questions is NO. Funny, you seem to be somehow convinced that your right to express your opinion precludes the right of everyone else to have and express their opinion. Sorry, that ain't how it works. You express your opinion, others express theirs. You choose to make attacks and insults, others respond in kind. You can't take the heat? Don't start the fire. Oh, and we'll let you have fun playing with yourself. You seem to be completely and hopelessly obsessed with sex, masturbation, and homosexuality. I don't know why, and I don't want to know why.
It is a shame that you feel that you must make childish personal attacks rather than argue your position. I guess I should feel pity for you, but I'm really just sickened and disgusted by you. You are entirely incapable of having a mature discussion, you cannot support your position, and all you seem to be capable of is hopeless and sophmoric attacks that leave people with the impression that you have the mental age of a grade school child. You really are sad.
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I'm done with this thread. The more I read of it the more SLO sounds more and more with a persecution complex.
Enjoy.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Funny, you seem to be somehow convinced that your right to express your opinion precludes the right of everyone else to have and express their opinion.
I believe that is probably an accurate presentation of a platform plank of Bloc Québécois.
:D
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Originally posted by SLO
again assuming stuff.....
capt virgin....I could do what you did....take your post and object to it point by point.....but I'm not you...and I really don't wanna be like you....cause that would be easy....all I have to do is agree too all of what you americans say....but since I have a diff. opinion then yours....I will always post what I think...ME...not what the other 15 want...as for grammical errors....stuff it girly boy
Evidently Slo, you are quite incapable of taking my posts and objecting point by point. If you WERE capable, you do that instead of your helpless, hopeless, juvenile personal attacks. It's not that I agree with everyone else, it's that I disagree with YOU. And unlike you, I can argue my points maturely. "Stuff it girly boy"? Go for it Slo, that's another classic. You might wish you were intellectually capable of making a coherent response to my point by point reply to your posts, but considering I've given you at least 5 or 6 chances, and all you can do is accuse people of being gay, and try to make humorous attempts at misspelling my name, you evidently are completely incapable of even defending your position.
Go ahead, post what you think. But have the brains and the guts to support your opinion, instead of being so childish and making those pitiful attempts at personal attacks.
Drunky did you read...cause it doesn't look like it...sounds more of an opinion than anything else....your are on meds
I'm against all WARS....but since you ask....I really don't give a rats bellybutton about Iraq....you can do whatever the hell you want...think what you want...cause no matter what anyone says...your still gonna do what you want....hence the arrogance.
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That really is funny, you don't care about Iraq, but you propose to tell everyone else what to do about it. And then you accuse others of arrogance. You really are a classic.
and you don't have too think you have to clarify anything for me capt. virgin tits....your arrogant view was enough. [/B]
Again with arrogance. You are getting funnier. Virgin Tits? You really are a sexually obsessed juvenile aren't you? At least I'm nice enough and adult enough to spell your "name" right. But you cannot be an adult about anything. How sad.
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slo... you may not believe this but a lot of us here have taken on 10 or so posters at a time just like you are.. difference is....
We didn't whine about it and we argued to the point. It also helps if you have a point.
lazs
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oh... virgil... don't take this wrong but... I think I am gonna be a little "apprehensive" when I see you disagreeing with me in a thread.
lazs
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Just let it die. It really was sort of sad, and it really wasn't worth the effort. There's no need to drag this up again.
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Canada DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THE US DOES...we can NOT be at 2 places at 1 time.....
Slo, then pay more taxes. You think it's free for us????
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Slo, don't think even for a second that your views are even remotely like this Canuck's, so the opinions of your 2 student buddies from my part of Canada won't mean anything either unless I hear them first hand. At that point I will form my own opinion.
By the way, the opinion of a student who fails at composing a legible reply in a simple forum diminishes you in the eyes of your fellow debaters. Perhaps if you hit the books a little harder, you could get your painful message out to those who would hear it.
Or ignore you.
Sincerely, "no brainer"
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Originally posted by SLO
you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy..... :p
Coming from a member of the worst province of Canada, a shining shame to the rest of the world of democracy gone corrupt, I consider this comment.......
WORTHLESS!
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Originally posted by SLO
you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....
you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....
do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....
are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....
wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.
France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....
congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....
:p
Gee, now I want to answer this drivelish Quebecois filthy whine with a reply of my own.... point by point....
#1 Quebec has no right to argue legitamacy, hell, they can not even govern themselves let alone think of independence... come on, get real, you'd be bankrupt in an hour.
#2 Umm, sorry to inform you, but the UN is in the US, ohh, and the UN means absolutely squat as of like 3 weeks ago.
#3 We do not control the rest of the worlds opinions, We give them their opinions.
#4 Nope, we are not going to give SQUAT back to the french or russians, we figure selling them illegal weapons on credit to be kind of wrong to begin with... too bad, so sad.
#5 The Iraqis are decedent of rutheless dictatorship, democracy will be a nice change for them,,, then again, ignorant Quebecois can not handle it, who knows.
#6 We did not fight a third world country, we kicked the sh*t out of a rutheless dictators disorganised mob disguised like a military, kinda like Canada's military.
#7 France, Germany, and Russia are indeed third world countries who survive because of our good will. I suspect that will not last too much longer. Imagine if they are third world, what that makes Canada, LOL! :D
#8 Yeah, I imagine the people dancing in the streets and thanking our armored forces in Iraq are really feeling your sarcasm now!!!
You would think, you could come up with a better argument than that. Christ, Montreal is the center of the universe, atleast in the universe of Pagonistic liberal hell....
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there is a new code on the bulliten board.
we must not use personal attacks like:
'slo, yer mom swims after troops ships' or 'surely, the best idea you ever had was getting that vasectomy perfomed on yer brain'.
Also, we should not attack a nation or region like french/canada for the idotic pinheaded anti-american venom sprinkled with half baked opinions that we see spewing from the tulips of about half the smelly dirtbag residents of said regions/nations.
be careful!! we must not directly confront idiocy! we must sneak up on it, and ambush it! we must use an assemetrical defense aginst an assinine offence, lest we sink to the immoral level of declaring a spade a spade!
and, should we err and offend, we must immediately apologize!
Thusly!
Slo, I'm sorry yer such a pinheaded anti-american idiot.. please accept my apologies and condolences to your mother on her failed childrearing project.
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Hang, you trying to get this thread locked ? :D
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we should liberate canada from the french.... they don't put people in shredders feet first but they are rude and smelly.
lazs
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Canada will die by it's own hand... that and the stench of Quebec. :D
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lol, you guys are crackin' me up :D
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Originally posted by Replicant
I always seemed to think that:-
1st World - Capitalist
2nd World - Socialist/Opressive Government
3rd World - No democratic government? Not sure exactly on it's classification??
Saddam did get elected, although I think the voters didn't have much of a choice! :(
That is close to how I remember it.
1st World. - The West, or America and her allies.
2nd World - Soviet Union and her allies.
3rd World - Non-alligned nations.
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France sucks (and Im a bit French, that also sucks right now but I dont care).
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here here Sienna!
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Originally posted by SLO
are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....
We think Iraq owes yall that money for illegal weapons, no you cannot have it back. Your loss.
France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....
We didnt listen too them last month and we wont listen to them next month. We laugh at whiners.
We are comparing france, germany and russias leaders to the 3 stooges here in america.
:p
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X2Lee,
You kinda have to understand that SLO, is like his name suggests, SLow in the brains department... your typical third world know-it-all liberal.