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Title: Warping!!!!!
Post by: FortyDog on April 10, 2003, 10:03:47 AM
For the last week or so the warping in MA has been pretty bad especially over enemy (Bish) bases.  Has everyone been having this problem?  Does anyone know if HT's staff is aware of this situation?  Are they trying to fix it?  I haven't heard anything from the staff.

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Title: Warping!!!!!
Post by: Zazen13 on April 10, 2003, 10:58:13 AM
Skuzzy posted on the Internet Connectivity forum that he was aware of the situation. He said he would be posting some info in the next few days about a possible fix. He seemed to indicate it was a multi-faceted problem, with the general war coverage traffic on the internet being one causal factor. So, yea they are aware and in the process of fixing it I would assume.

Zazen
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Post by: RacrX on April 10, 2003, 11:41:21 AM
Warping has been a very weird kind too. Typhoon was hittin my tank head on and he appeared to be in 4 places at once lol.
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Post by: Chairboy on April 10, 2003, 11:52:16 AM
That Typhoon wasn't warping, RacrX, he was just using the Picard maneuver.
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Post by: ALF on April 10, 2003, 12:00:20 PM
I think we are refering not to the normal, occasional warps, but  a new and improved "break dancing" warp.  Cons flittering about like crazed beez, back and forth along a 5-1000k path.

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Post by: Jackal1 on April 10, 2003, 12:26:49 PM
I have noticed when planes spawn to take off, about half way down runway they appear to warp, upside down or standing on tail for an instant then proceeding on . I also noticed when approaching bogs they will frame in about 4 different locations in quick succession.
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Post by: gofaster on April 10, 2003, 12:31:43 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
I have noticed when planes spawn to take off, about half way down runway they appear to warp, upside down or standing on tail for an instant then proceeding on . I also noticed when approaching bogs they will frame in about 4 different locations in quick succession.


I've seen that too, in friendly and enemy planes and GVs.  But what I've really started seeing more of is the massive zigzag warp, in single planes or in groups zigzaging around at the same time.  Yesterday I was in a Mustang chasing a Typhoon and just as I planted some .50cal in his elevators, he went into the zigzag.  I don't know what he saw, but I got the kill.
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Post by: BigGun on April 10, 2003, 12:47:38 PM
ssshhh....don't tell em about that /.warpmaw On6 command :)
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Post by: gatso on April 10, 2003, 12:50:36 PM
I've been seeing lots, all the same type. Friendly and enemy. Sometimes it's a single individual, sometimes its more than one.

Connection will be normal then the subject will warp backwards 300-500yards. It will then fly for 1/2 a second on this new path then warp forward to where it was, then back again almost instantly. Then a second or so later forward again to be followed by a normal connection.

They all look very similar.

Very strange. I hope it goes away ASAP.

Gatso
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Post by: Tabasco on April 10, 2003, 01:25:01 PM
It's kind of fascinating when a con is trailing smoke and does one of these warps, leaving a trail of 90 degree or sharper angles. :eek:
Title: Skuzzy
Post by: FortyDog on April 10, 2003, 03:14:02 PM
I should have figured Skuzzy would be on it.  I just hadn't heard anything and I had a few members log last night because of it.  Hurry Skuzzy.  It's getting ruff out there.

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Title: Warping!!!!!
Post by: icemaw on April 10, 2003, 05:57:55 PM
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Originally posted by Chairboy
That Typhoon wasn't warping, RacrX, he was just using the Picard maneuver.


 Good one chair that is a very good description of it.
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Post by: jonnyb on April 11, 2003, 02:35:45 PM
I just experienced some absolutely horrible warping when I decided to forgo lunch and fly a couple sorties...

Scenario 1: I'm cruising along in my p51b and see a hellcat and a 190 egnaging a friendly.  I merge with the 190, saddle up on his 6 and he does the zig zag.  I land a few in him by sheer luck and break off to play with the kitty.  through the magic of warps and lag my radiator starts spewing coolant and within seconds I'm riding the silk.

Scenario 2: I up from a second line base and find a hog at 20k.  I engage him and land a bunch of .50s into his frame.  He goes down.  I fly off towards our HQ to defend against the bish swarm.  About half a sector away, My engine quits for no reason.  Smoke pours forth and when I check damage engine oil and engine are both done for.  At no time were there any pings, the corsair had no shots on me.  There was no explanation other than random engine failure.  Be that as it may, I decide to engage a low p38 and p51d.  I swooped down on the pony and lit him up.  At least 15 solid hit sprites to his tail and left wing.  He flies merrily along like nothing happened.  I then engage the p38 -- I'm still deadstick -- and after a couple pings into him, I disengage and head for the HQ to attempt a ditch.  When I landed, I waited expecting to see a kill message flash.  Nothing.  So, I exited my plane and logged.

I'm very hopeful that Skuzzy and friends are diligently working to solve this problem as it makes gameplay unbearable.
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Post by: Skuzzy on April 11, 2003, 02:42:54 PM
We are working on installing a new server, but you have to understand that we cannot control the Internet.  The best, fastest server in the world is not going to help, if the lag/warp is Internet induced.
If you chose to automatically conclude the problem is the server, then there is a fair chance you may never actually get the problem resolved.
I am not saying it cannot be the server, I am saying the server plays a pretty small part in the overall connectivity area and ignoring everything else will just lead to more frustration for you.
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Post by: gofaster on April 11, 2003, 02:56:41 PM
One more thing: GVs don't do the zig-zag warp, so its actually kind of entertaining to be parked in a Panzer while enemy aircraft zig and zag overhead.
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Post by: Ike 2K# on April 11, 2003, 03:01:56 PM
i know someone who told me that you can produce "artificial lag" by simply turning off-on the cable modem.
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Post by: Jackal1 on April 11, 2003, 03:42:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
i know someone who told me that you can produce "artificial lag" by simply turning off-on the cable modem.


Now that`s helpfull ! Don`t give me no plastic saddle, I wanna feel that leather when I ride.:rolleyes:
Title: Warping!!!!!
Post by: gofaster on April 11, 2003, 03:44:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
i know someone who told me that you can produce "artificial lag" by simply turning off-on the cable modem.


Assuming you don't lose your connection, which is typically what will happen.
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Post by: SunKing on April 11, 2003, 04:44:51 PM
I did something yesterday that my victim would call a cheat due to the lag. I was chasing a spit in my Hurri . He was 1.6k away and pulling away. All of a sudden he warped to 300k in front of me. I fired and he warped back to 1.5k and broke apart and blew up... Knit tractor beam in full effect!!!!!
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Post by: SirLoin on April 11, 2003, 05:51:16 PM
40Dog..These last few weeks have been the same for me.

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Post by: SELECTOR on April 11, 2003, 06:15:37 PM
warps showing up the cracks in the HTC equipment?:confused:
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Post by: cpxxx on April 12, 2003, 09:19:33 AM
Still there last night, some crazy stuff happening. Chasing a Spit when it starts it's dance. It should be set to music Then it vanished only it didn't because there it was in my straight six. Game over.

Next I'm chasing a P38 cross country while being chased by two others. I'm gaining he begins a turn I match it. Suddenly there's a massive closure rate. I throttle back to avoid overshooting until I realize it's a head on. I didn't get a shot off. No P38 turns that well.

I logged in disgust.  I suppose it's the internet with that war and all that. Bu I would like it to work to MY advantage a couple of times.

It's not there all the time but just often enough to irritate.
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Post by: WldThing on April 12, 2003, 03:27:53 PM
I dont seem to have much lag in my other mutiplayer games that i play.  I play a game with over 2,000 people logged in all at once,  so 500 people on HTC servers shouldnt be a problem..But im not an Internet tech person so i dont know...
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Post by: Vulcan on April 12, 2003, 05:05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
We are working on installing a new server, but you have to understand that we cannot control the Internet.  The best, fastest server in the world is not going to help, if the lag/warp is Internet induced.
If you chose to automatically conclude the problem is the server, then there is a fair chance you may never actually get the problem resolved.
I am not saying it cannot be the server, I am saying the server plays a pretty small part in the overall connectivity area and ignoring everything else will just lead to more frustration for you.


Skuzzy I don't usually moan about the warps coz "the nets the net". But these are... unusual.

When stationary or near stationary GVs warp distances of 1k or more simultaneously its not the predictive netcode, its something else. Its almost as if the server momentarily sends out offset positonal information.  These are not the usual net drop in transmission vs netcode prediction. They're much different.

I think the problem has reached critical mass in the MA.

Have you guys had film of it yet? Or do you need film?
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Post by: WldThing on April 12, 2003, 05:08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan Have you guys had film of it yet? Or do you need film? [/B]


I have a film of a warp...If ya need the film tell me Skuzz, ill email it to ya.
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Post by: mia389 on April 12, 2003, 07:37:30 PM
hehe you guys are missing the late night stuff around 2-5am central time. The server is great, hardly ever get any warps that late at night if I can find a plane on trinity that is
Title: Warping!!!!!
Post by: Vulcan on April 12, 2003, 09:00:10 PM
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Originally posted by mia389
hehe you guys are missing the late night stuff around 2-5am central time. The server is great, hardly ever get any warps that late at night if I can find a plane on trinity that is


Wrong Mia, I play the late night crowd, it still happens.
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Post by: gatso on April 12, 2003, 09:10:26 PM
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Originally posted by cpxxx
It's not there all the time but just often enough to irritate.

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Skuzzy I don't usually moan about the warps coz "the nets the net". But these are... unusual.


What these guys said. I know the Internet can be screwy now and again but the recent problems have been... weird. No other word for it.

I assume it's a comibation of net and server, hope it's fixable.

Gatso
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Post by: Jackal1 on April 12, 2003, 09:46:41 PM
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Originally posted by mia389
hehe you guys are missing the late night stuff around 2-5am central time. The server is great, hardly ever get any warps that late at night if I can find a plane on trinity that is


I play at those times also and am geting the same probs as prime time.
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Post by: Otto on April 12, 2003, 09:50:16 PM
It has been pretty bad.  Probablity due to increased Net use due to the War in Iraq.

 Who knows...?

I'm guessing it will be fine in a week or two.