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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on April 10, 2003, 01:57:15 PM
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Hows your boy doing? Any idea where he's at? Godspeed to him.
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He's doing fine. Thank you for asking.
He got offered training status at the SERE school near the end of his training and took it. The youngest SERE instructor in Air Force history and the first Airman First Class to make it.
He got to stay home and train.
I pretty proud of him and glad he is home safe. Although I do not envy him the task he has. It has to be the incredibly difficult to be a SERE instructor, knowing what they have to do to the trainees. I couldn't do it and I went through the school too.
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Cool! Thks for the info.
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one of my instructors up at fairchild was an A1C....a real salamander. I had a really cool Senior Airman, former instructor at the arctic course in Alaska, really new his stuff. Needless to say, the A1C is the one who was in charge when i ended up disabled.......
Once he completes the training, its pretty easy for him. The instructor training on the other hand supossedly sucks huge fat ones.
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My son finished his instructor training 3 months ago. According to SERE records, he is the first E3 to make it
Yep,..it was nasty.
However,..the instructors are always going back for more training as new things pop up they have to cover.
Right before the Iraq war broke out, they had to go through extended desert survival training and evasion techniques were augmented further.
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Originally posted by Dnil
one of my instructors up at fairchild was an A1C....a real salamander. I had a really cool Senior Airman, former instructor at the arctic course in Alaska, really new his stuff. Needless to say, the A1C is the one who was in charge when i ended up disabled.......
Once he completes the training, its pretty easy for him. The instructor training on the other hand supossedly sucks huge fat ones.
hey at least you got to fly in one of those fancy helecopter machines!
:D
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Dnil, when did you go through SERE?
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december of 96
edit: Fancy? it was a huey, in a blowing snowstorm at 3am, they had to get the commander of the huey squad out of bed to fly the mission. I credit the sgt medic and the pilot for saving my life.
and seeing all those guys in NVGs scared the crap outa me, :)
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Oh heck,..you got to live in the new barracks then. Bum.
I went through in the early 70's. You know the buildings on base, where they store all the junk. The wooden ones?
That is where I had to stay. Miserable.
Oh,..when I said A1C,...old school here, as when I was in the E3 was an A1C. I forgot they added another stripe somewhere along the line. Was the E4 a Sargeant when you went through? Cause E4's are A1C's now.
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Doesn't it take about ten years to make E4 in the USAF?
GDR
:D
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When I was in, you could make E4 in 3 years. E5 in just under 4, if you hustled you tush off.
I think E4's take a bit longer now. I have not asked my son about it though. I do recall him saying it would be close for him to make it before his first tour is up.
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I had a friend that made E-5 in 3 years 6 months. I believe this is the fastest you can make that rank in the Air Force. It requires getting E-4 via "Bellow the Zone" award as the testing for SSgt requires 1 year Time In Grade.
But then.. that was of 1990. Since then, they've gotten rid of "Buc Sgt" and changed things abit. Can't say for sure that still aplies.
MiniD
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My son made E-4 in the Army recently, he's been in two years.
He is a Paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne, currently serving in Afghanistan.
dago
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e-1 airman basic
e-2 airman
e-3 airman 1st class
e-4 senior airman
e-5 staff sgt
e-6 tech sgt
e-7 master sgt
e-8 senior master sgt
e-9 chief master sgt....da chief
least was that way when i got out in 98
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Originally posted by Dnil
e-1 airman basic (no stripe)
e-2 airman (1 stripe)
e-3 airman 1st class (2 stripes)
e-4 senior airman (3 stripes)
e-5 staff sgt (3 stripes, 1 rocker)
e-6 tech sgt (3 stripes, 2 rockers)
e-7 master sgt (3 stripes, 2 rockers, 1 chevron)
e-8 senior master sgt (3 stripes, 2 rockers, 2 chevrons)
e-9 chief master sgt....da chief (3 stripes, 2 rockers, 3 chevrons)
least was that way when i got out in 98
Still that way now Dnil. I added the insignias for those who were confused.
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GScholz, go here (http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/almanac/almanac/people/insignias/enlisted.html) and you can see what I mean.
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those soldiers in pic 1 must be boiling there tulips off...it looks as if its only -10 (centigrade) in wich case there way over dressed...
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
It has to be the incredibly difficult to be a SERE instructor, knowing what they have to do to the trainees. I couldn't do it and I went through the school too.
Skuzzy, you should suggest to him that he try to be one of the instructors that go work at USAFA for a summer. I speak from 3 years of experience: he'll have... ...fun
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He enjoys being an instructor at SERE. Talked to him last night and they have a 3 day break this weekend, so all the instructors are going out camping and do a 'break-a-thon'.
This is a contest event where they all try to evade each other and be first to make it back to base camp without being detected.
This will be his first one, so he is looking forward to it.
On a side note, he got a letter from the base commander which was written by a one of the pilots he trained. Went along the lines of his professionalism and tenacity reflected well on the SERE school and he is a shining example of what a trainer should be.
The base commander added a note letting him know that letters like that are very rare.
He is going to frame it.
Damn, I am a proud daddy.
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Ah man, you must be proud, Skuzzy! Tell him "WTG" from "the people you support, that are supporting him" ;)
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I don't know if this still applies but due to my high school involvement in ROTC, I was able to enlist and start as an E3 (A1C). A year later, I was E4 (SrA) where I was "stuck" until I got out in 1994. They had just dumped the buck sargeant rank and since i was an admin/tech guy, they weren't sure if my field allowed me to jump into Ssgt or not.
Air Guard was interesting...in those days, overfilling a field was OK. I recall being transferred to Security Police, where I wasn't really needed...so they had me tag along with the guys for shootin' and blowing stuff up. Not bad...55wpm on the keys, and could reassemble an M60 or wire up C4 :) You never know when you'll need these skills in the office, right?
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
He enjoys being an instructor at SERE.
I wasn't saying he change his profession. The Academy imports airmen from SERE to help out with the Combat Survival Training in Colorado.
Anywho, if he ever runs into SrA (maybe SSgt) Walker and calls him "A-dub" (pronounced ay-dub), he should get a torrent of stories.
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Sorry Preon,..I misunderstood.
I'll pass on the name to him.
I am working to get him Internet access up there. I have to get a computer to him. Once he gets online, I'll point him this way.
He has a lot of stories to tell already. Pretty funny stuff.
Hmmmm,..he does have some stories about me....maybe I should rethink. :D
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that aint nuthin.
In the Marines you have to kill your mother to make NCO.
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Skuzzy, Dago, and everyone that has a child in the services.
Its one thing to go in and take care of yourself, but its a whole other ball of wax to send someone you love very much into the fray.
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Didn't imply you were.
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Skuzzy for the job you did as a Dad. Your job performance has paid off. Try and talk jr. into getting a degree and going for officer! ;)
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Thanks Concho
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Thanks Concho.
Maverick, he is going to be starting college in the fall, but he does not want to be an officer.
He cannot be a SERE instructor if he chooses the commissioned path.
He'll get his degree and stay a non-comm.
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Skuzzy and to your son
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Having been through the Navy's SERE program, I have to say it was the best training....(well, except for flight school :D ) and hardest training I have ever had to go through. It is training I will never forget, and hope you never have to use.
The instructors the military has running these programs are the BEST at what they do, and he should be extremely proud of his accomplishment. Again <>!!