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Is about to play in a PGA tournament... with the guys!
What do you think?
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how did she get a pro card?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is about to play in a PGA tournament... with the guys!
What do you think?
I do not think it would be possible for me to care less.
F.
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She is the dominant player on the LPGA tour.
(http://www.onlineathens.com/images/070999/sorenstam.jpg)
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does that mean that men can play on the women's tour?
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Hell, I think *all* sports should be totally integrated. Let's get the women out of the sports ghetto where they are stigmatized as inferior. I think a woman should have equal opportunity to compete for spots in college football, the NBA, all sexes tennis, whatever. As to how many would actually make the rosters, however, I'm guessing offhand some college football kicking specialists, and perhaps one or two kickers into the pros. A few golfers, the Williams sisters and a few other tennis players, and you just *might* see a 3 point shooting specialist or two in the NBA. Soccer, I have no idea, probably more chance there. (There'd be more in each of these sports on the college level)
Baseball is an intriguing area for women to compete on an equal basis, college, Olympic and pro. There are players competing there now without overwhelming size, speed or strength. As to how many women would win medals in a fully integrated Olympics? Some in integrated gymnastics, figure skating, other sports where form counts more than speed or strength. If an ultramarathon were added, they'd contend for that all the time. Perhaps some in baseball/softball/soccer?
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Is about to play in a PGA tournament... with the guys!
What do you think?
I think she'd make more money playing with the ladies...
She think she can beat a Tiger?? :)
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Good for her.
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Golf is not a sport.
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What happens when she fluffs a drives and the ball doesn't make it past the ladies tee?
(I hope someone knows what I am alluding to?)
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Did she qualify on the shorter tees?
I've been looking but can't find the answer...
If she didn't qualify on the men's tees (like everyone else in PGA) then she has no business being there.
I don't care how good she is with LPGA.
Originally posted by midnight Target
Is about to play in a PGA tournament... with the guys!
What do you think?
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I have to admire her for doing it. Maybe she'll get hammered, maybe not, but I hope she drives from the men's tees and plays by the same rules everyone else plays by.
At least she didn't ask for a golf cart.
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Golf is not a sport.
LOL Ive heard it described that 'any thing you can do while drinking a beer is not a sport'
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Originally posted by Rasker
Hell, I think *all* sports should be totally integrated. Let's get the women out of the sports ghetto where they are stigmatized as inferior.
Actually, I was surprised to find out that women _want_ to have their own leagues. They get tired of being trampled by men at the start of a marathon, or getting kicked in the head and pushed under at the start of a triathlon, or just flat getting beat because of men's genetic advantages (we have a couple of performance-enhancing chemical factories below the beltline). So yeah, let women have their fair shot if they want it, but not to the exclusion of offering women-only sports.
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I never understood why women and men did not compete in golf.
Most women golfers cannot hit the drive with the distance of most men, but thier fairway shots are pretty comparable.
If she is playing the mens tees, she might struggle on the par 5's, but she should be able to maintain her own on par 4's and less.
The par 5 in the PGA normally takes two long shots, with the drive being the most critical.
Most men have the edge over women in golf, due to thier height. It allows them greater club head speed with less strength, than a shorter woman.
I don't know how tall this lady is, but if she is in the 5' 10" area, she might stand a chance.
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imo if she can qualify from the men's tees then it shows that she should be competative with others qualifying from those tees.
If not, like I said, she has no business being there.
As far as lpga goes, unless it's private, I can't see any legal way they can keep men out.
Originally posted by Skuzzy
I never understood why women and men did not compete in golf.
Most women golfers cannot hit the drive with the distance of most men, but thier fairway shots are pretty comparable.
If she is playing the mens tees, she might struggle on the par 5's, but she should be able to maintain her own on par 4's and less.
The par 5 in the PGA normally takes two long shots, with the drive being the most critical.
Most men have the edge over women in golf, due to thier height. It allows them greater club head speed with less strength, than a shorter woman.
I don't know how tall this lady is, but if she is in the 5' 10" area, she might stand a chance.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Most men have the edge over women in golf, due to thier height. It allows them greater club head speed with less strength, than a shorter woman.
There may be some truth to that. I've also heard that the advantage that men have over women in golf is stronger torso muscles, wrist snap, and hand grip strength, all of which allow a longer, harder drive off the tee. Once you're on the fairway, it all balances out and comes down to skill and accuracy in shot placement.
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Originally posted by Curval
What happens when she fluffs a drives and the ball doesn't make it past the ladies tee?
(I hope someone knows what I am alluding to?)
hehe, I do
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Lot of variables involved gofaster, to be sure.
Best example I have is between myself and my Dad.
He is about 5'10", with significantly better upper body strength than I have, but I am about 6'3".
I could out drive him every time. In my younger years, 310 yds was a pretty regular drive for me. I still hit about 280. My Dad would always fall about 20 yds behind me.
Even in his prime, he never hit the distance I could, and I used one of his clubs once, just see if it made a difference.
Upper body/torso strength actually plays a bit larger roll once you are off the tee. Keeping the club head speed when pushing through some grass or sand is critical to accuracy.
If she can qual with the men, then she should be able to play with them.
As far as prize money goes; PGA purses are significantly more than the LPGA purses are.
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Originally posted by AKIron
hehe, I do
lol...you play that rule in Texas too huh?:)
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Originally posted by Curval
What happens when she fluffs a drives and the ball doesn't make it past the ladies tee?
(I hope someone knows what I am alluding to?)
She go tto play with her titts out! fair is fair!
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I've forgotten when the first time I was told about it. Likely on an Air Force base golf course soemwhere, many years ago. I've flubbed many tee shots since but never paid the penalty. They do have obscenity laws here, not that anyone would notice me. :D
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Shes doing it to make a political statement... not to play golf. I think its rediculous, if not insulting to the rest of the tour - regardless of what the players say in front of the camera.
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She is Swedish...nuff said.
*proud*
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I agree, I don't see how anyone can see her as a professional or how she can consider herself one.
She is wrong and whoever is letting her play without qualifying is wrong.
I'd love to see one player any player, no matter the gender, tell it like it is. But I doubt that'll happen.
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Shes doing it to make a political statement... not to play golf. I think its rediculous, if not insulting to the rest of the tour - regardless of what the players say in front of the camera.
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Shes doing it to make a political statement... not to play golf. I think its rediculous, if not insulting to the rest of the tour - regardless of what the players say in front of the camera.
And what political statement would that be?
You are blowing this out of proportion. She wants to try herself against the guys. I dont see anything wrong with that. It would be really fun if she'd beat a couple of them too.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Golf is not a sport.
Thats an assinine comment. Golf is a damn hard SPORT, swinging a golf club is one of the hardest things to do consistently. Just because you CAN drive a cart does not mean that it isnt a sport. YOU try carrying a 30lb golf bag for 18holes (7000+ yards on average)
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Originally posted by Eagler
I think she'd make more money playing with the ladies...
She think she can beat a Tiger?? :)
She can beat him if he just has a so-so day and she has a good one. But in your question you can substitute any top male PGA pro with her in regards to comparison to Tiger Woods.
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It's cheating the people who qualified to play, out of a fair game.
That's the problem.
Fair competition and the possibility of winning ended right there.
Now it's just a joke and a charity.
Originally posted by Hortlund
She wants to try herself against the guys. I dont see anything wrong with that.
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Is she being allowed to play without qualifying? If so, then that is sad. They just ruined the PGA.
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Originally posted by Hortlund
She is Swedish...nuff said.
*proud*
She went to U of A...also *proud*.
:D
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Originally posted by Kanth
It's cheating the people who qualified to play, out of a fair game.
That's the problem.
Fair competition and the possibility of winning ended right there.
Now it's just a joke and a charity.
Uh...what makes you think she didnt qualify?
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IIRC she was given one of the sponsor invitations to the Colonial tournament in Fort Worth. Not unusual for someone to play without qualifying, the sponsor usually has a few 'by invitation' slots, just unusual that it is a woman.
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She didn't qualify on the same tees the men qualified on.
Which means she didn't have to compete with them to qualify.
Which means she's not a competetor in the PGA.
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IIRC, she is in under a sponser's exemption. She can't actually play in a PGA Tour event because she has not qualified at the PGA Q School (where you go to show you are skilled enough and you get your Tour Card).
However, she has dominated the LPGA in an even greater way than Tiger has dominated the PGA. So, while she hasn't qualified for the PGA Tour, she has shown that if ever a woman could play on the Tour, it would be her. In reality, she's so far ahead of the LPGA, it's like the Suns v. a good college team. Maybe 2 times out of 10 the college kids would win.
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Originally posted by Dune
She went to U of A...also *proud*.
:D
A Swedish Party Girl? SWEEEEET!
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Originally posted by Kanth
She didn't qualify on the same tees the men qualified on.
Which means she didn't have to compete with them to qualify.
Which means she's not a competetor in the PGA.
Well, what is your source for her using other tees than the men?
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If she did not qualify on the men's tees, then she has no business competing for the purse. That is unacceptable.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
IIRC she was given one of the sponsor invitations to the Colonial tournament in Fort Worth. Not unusual for someone to play without qualifying, the sponsor usually has a few 'by invitation' slots, just unusual that it is a woman.
Would that be The MasterCard Colonial INVITATIONAL? Nobody plays WITHOUT an invitation.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/golfonline/columns/johnson/2003/annika/
is the first one i find.
I will look for more
here's another:
http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/sports/5162860.htm
"Our tournament has historically recognized and supported exceptional players who otherwise would not qualify for our invitational event," Finley said. "Annika's accomplishments show that she is certainly deserving. The Colonial Country Club and our board of governors are excited that Annika has accepted our invitation to play."
I can find more just let me know.
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Sorenstam will be the first female participant in a PGA Tour event since Babe Didrickson Zaharias played (and made the 36-hole cut) in the 1945 Los Angeles Open.
Babe was awesome....
The Whole Story (http://golf.about.com/library/weekly/aa021203a.htm)
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I wonder if she will she be driving the Beer Cart?
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btw I wrote the LPGA about men competing so far I got:
Our by laws state that you have to be female at birth in order to play.
so I shot back:
"are you a private organization?"
I'm curious to see what they say.
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Sorenstam becomes the second player in the Colonial field to accept one of 12 sponsor's exemptions bestowed by tournament officials. The first went to Ricky Barnes, the reigning U.S. Amateur Champion who plays college golf for the University of Arizona.
Like I said, many (12) non-qualifiers.
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like I said, it's a joke.
Past sponsor exemptions have backfired. In 1992, Kemper Open officials wanted to spice up their event, so they gave one to Washington Redskin quarterback Mark Rypien. Rypien shot 80-91, not only embarrassing himself but the tournament as well.
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these are from the sports illustrated cnn site btw.
Remember Mason Wolf? Probably not. I'm sure there's one tournament he'd like to forget as well. In 1990, Wolf was an assistant pro at the C.C. of South Sapphire Valley. Thanks to one of its members, Jack Mosely, who also happened to be Chairman and CEO of USF&G, Wolf received an exemption into the USF&G Classic in New Orleans. Wolf shot 90-93 to set the highest 36-hole score recorded in the last 30 years on the PGA Tour.
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Well Kanth, the last woman to try it made the cut. Which means she beat at least 1/2 the field. Not a joke at all.
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Kanth, the link you provided did not say anything about Sorenstams tee
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The score after the fact doesn't matter to me. If she was good enough to beat half, she was good enough to have tried to qualify to get in, in the first place.
And yet instead, she took an exemption go guarentee her spot in the competition, when others had to compete for it.
That's not fair, I don't care how much publicity it gives the game or how much money they make.
You either compete, or you are a token. In only one of those situations does your performance matter in a competition.
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You're right, I'm wrong, she didn't qualify on any tees hortlund, she was given an exemption from qualifying at all.
you go girl!
NOT.
Originally posted by Hortlund
Kanth, the link you provided did not say anything about Sorenstams tee
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Sponsors get to pick several players for each tournament...that is ok as long as they dont pick girls is that what you are saying?
I dont get it. As long as she uses the same lanes, the same tees and the same rules as the guys why shouldnt she be allowed to be in the tour?
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If she was invited, then I have no issues with her being in the tournament,...as long as she plays on the same tees.
She is just another golfer at that point.
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nope I'm saying that people who don't qualify don't compete.
They are tokens, no matter the gender.
I cited two examples of token men who were exempted just so you'd understand that it's been done before, for men, and that it's still not fair competition.
Let me make this clear so you don't misunderstand, anyone that is just handed an invitation to get into a match, when others have to compete for it, aren't competitors.
They are tokens, publicity stunts, they are the owners sons, etc etc..haven't earned their way into the game.
Annika is no different.
Originally posted by Hortlund
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Sponsors get to pick several players for each tournament...that is ok as long as they dont pick girls is that what you are saying?
I dont get it. As long as she uses the same lanes, the same tees and the same rules as the guys why shouldnt she be allowed to be in the tour?
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Hortlund and I are agreeing....
Just an "end of life as we know it" warning.....
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Hortland - its fine to be proud of a fellow countryman/woman/person... (PC sucks....)
But this isnt really about where she came from, how old she is, or what sexual plumbing she posesses.
If she were a he, I still think it would be an embarressment. The fact that she is a woman however, playing in a clearly marked mens tournament, and in fact, tour, kinda of "tees me off."
Im trying hard not to sound like a bigot... but its kind of hard in this case, which Im sure you can understand. I just think the lines are clearly defined - the PGA tour and the LPGA tour are seperated for a reason - to allow for a level playing field respective to each sex.
If she wants to qualify from the mens tees, then perhaps she should be considered as a potential player, but the reason the LPGA was created was so that women could compete against eachother on a level playing field. If she is allowed to play from the womens tees during this tourny, she has, as Kanth said, absolutely no business grabbing at the purse.
I just have a serious problem with the current trend in sports today: if youre no good, we'll change the game so you can play. Thats kind of insulting to those athletes who have the talent to compete. The problem is, at least in a case like this, Im sure she'd be screaming "lawsuit" if they didnt let her play, and Im sure the officials would rather get some good PR out of the decision than be seen as a dated organization that descriminates against women.
Can you imagine other sports with integrated teams? Ice hockey would be a bloodsport. As soon as some guy got the balls up to hit a female, shed be injured and the newspapers would be crying 'foul!' The team would let him go because of public outcry and two careers are ruined.
Basketball? Three-point "specialist?" I dont think so. Again, theres a reason the WNBA was created... shots blocked would increase two fold in one season.
Football? Ok, maybe a kicker, but thats about it - come on here people... think with your heads.
Then of course you get the "scandles" where male owners and coaches make innapproproate remarks or "contact" (forget the ol' basketball bellybutton slap... sorry Dowding) :D Go up to block a shot and Shaq accidentally grabs a handful? "Sexual assault!! Sexual assault!"
[SportsCenter music] "Shaq Attack! Shaq undergoing questioning after grabbing the wrong basketball... what was he thinking? We're not sure, but its certain to be entertaining." [/SportsCenter music]
There just really no good that can come from integrated sports. Sure it might be nice for a few weeks to have the "Success Story of the Century!" on Fox, but after that - what do you have? Someone who cant play on the same level as the rest of the league and is there purely for publicity. Its an embarressment for the league, the team, the fans... and the player in question, which in the case, happens to be a female.
Men and women are not equal - we never have been and we never will be. We need to stop bending the rules in an attempt to blur the line between the sexes. There are things men can do that women cannot, and there are thing women can do that men cannot. If we were designed to be the same, we'd reproduce a-sexually and it'd be a pretty boring world.
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I am absolutely opposed to women on golf courses. The instincts of a male is to protect the female, and in the heat of battle females will cause males to lose their composure and develop a case of the "yips." Sorry, but golf is a man's job, not a woman's.
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imo we need to start looking at people as individuals and their skills as individuals and get over the fact that one has boobies and the other doesn't (in most cases)
It's just golf, testicles aren't required to play it.
The balls needed can be purchased.
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you are starting to grow on me Airhead..like a fungus..but still.
Originally posted by Airhead
I am absolutely opposed to women on golf courses. The instincts of a male is to protect the female, and in the heat of battle females will cause males to lose their composure and develop a case of the "yips." Sorry, but golf is a man's job, not a woman's.
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More on Babe Didrikson
Babe Didrikson Zaharias played the Los Angeles Open as an amateur in 1938 (getting an exemption) and 1945 (qualifying from the men's tees).
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Wohooo did Kanth just hit on Elfenwolf!!!
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ah no, just appreciating the ongoing humor that never stops not matter how much you want it to sometimes.
ya perv.
Originally posted by Hortlund
Wohooo did Kanth just hit on Elfenwolf!!!
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Originally posted by Kanth
imo we need to start looking at people as individuals and their skills as individuals and get over the fact that one has boobies and the other doesn't (in most cases)
I agree to a point, but I still think men and women should be seperate in more than one case. Sports is one arena, front line combat is another, and for good reason: Im sure you can imagine why the female POW was the only one left alive out of her group...
I'd be interested in what the 50th percentile female thinks of all this, because the general attitude of the vocal minority seems to be "Im going to do this just so I can show you I can - Im sick of being labeled a woman."
Since when do females want to be sexless?
I guess my strong feeling on this subject stems from my absolute hatred of the feminism movement. In my not so humble opinion, the feminazi group couldnt be comprised of a more worthless segment of the female population hiding behind their own failings.
They dont even seem to be "pro-woman" anymore - its more like "anti-man" these days. I was exposed to enough of this at university that it made me sick...
I tried to see things from their viewpoint, but I couldnt get my head that far up my ass.
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And she went on to compete, doesn't sound like the impossible or implausible, wonder how big a deal it was in those days..
err ;)
Originally posted by midnight Target
qualifying from the men's tees
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A link
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
(http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030213-10865050.htm)
and a picture (of Sorenstam) I couldn't resist
(http://terpsboy.com/blogpics/girlgolf.jpg)
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
If she was invited, then I have no issues with her being in the tournament,...as long as she plays on the same tees.
She is just another golfer at that point.
That's really the bottom line.
I don't have a problem with women playing in the regular tour as long as the same rules apply for them as for men. They should have to qualify and hit from the same tees.
I can't see any reason why it should be otherwise..."yip" factor aside.;)
If she gets "invited" to play in tournaments a little too often though, I can see potential difficulties for the PGA.
(Scout...is that Sorenstam?:D )
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I agree to a point, but I still think men and women should be seperate in more than one case. Sports is one arena, front line combat is another, and for good reason: Im sure you can imagine why the female POW was the only one left alive out of her group...
I'm sure I could imagine pigs flying outta my butt as well but it doesn't have any bearing on facts.
I'd be interested in what the 50th percentile female thinks of all this, because the general attitude of the vocal minority seems to be "Im going to do this just so I can show you I can - Im sick of being labeled a woman."
you don't get labled a woman, ...(holding back the obvious jokes)....you are born one.
Since when do females want to be sexless?
when they aren't having sex?
I guess my strong feeling on this subject stems from my absolute hatred of the feminism movement. In my not so humble opinion, the feminazi group couldnt be comprised of a more worthless segment of the female population hiding behind their own failings.
I like animals but hate PETA, dunno what to tell you, the world has some really vocal freaks that screw things up for others.
They dont even seem to be "pro-woman" anymore - its more like "anti-man" these days. I was exposed to enough of this at university that it made me sick...
Yep. I've seen that quite a bit. It's as bull**** as the same that is done towards all women by anti-women folks. It's wrong in all cases.
I tried to see things from their viewpoint, but I couldnt get my head that far up my ass.
I didn't bother, no one speaks for me and I feel no need to understand the handsomehunkes of the world. no exemptions ;)
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Originally posted by Kanth
I like animals but hate PETA, dunno what to tell you, the world has some really vocal freaks that screw things up for others.
Man we are opposites Kanth. I like PETA but hate animals.
Oh, and Babe Didrikson was a man.
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thank god you cleared that up...
I was starting to wonder if what hortlund said was really true..
and everyone knows that Babe is a pig.
Originally posted by Airhead
Man we are opposites Kanth. I like PETA but hate animals.
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Kanth, Im just going to drop this because Im not sure whether I should retort with a flame thrower or just nod my head in agreement... woman confuse me. :D
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Golly
Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Kanth, Im just going to drop this because Im not sure whether I should retort with a flame thrower or just nod my head in agreement... woman confuse me. :D
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
K... woman confuse me. :D
(gazes into beer, nods head somberly in agreement) Yup...If they didn't screw there'd be a bounty on em. :(
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Golly :(
Originally posted by Airhead
(gazes into beer, nods head somberly in agreement) Yup...If they didn't screw there'd be a bounty on em. :(
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Originally posted by funkedup
Golf is not a sport.
...unless you carry your own clubs and walk. :)
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Right now I can think of 2, MAYBE 3 Aces High virtual pilots with the golfing ability to even dream of playing in a PGA Tour event. One player was on tour in the mid-late 70's and another I talked to not long ago wants to give Q-School a shot and I wish him the best of luck with the advice "Make lots of Birdies, lots and lots of Birdies."
If you ask, my credentials are as follows:
1.) 4 Year Letterwinner in High School.
2.) Captain of High School golf team Junior year & Senior years.
3.) Three-time individual player in OHSAA State Golf Tournament.
4.) 3 top-5's on Nike Winternational Junior Golf Tour (4 events)
5.) Wall full of trophys from individual tournaments around Ohio.
6.) Unofficial (non competition) course records at 2 Ohio courses.
7.) Turned Professional spring of 2001 while a senior in H.S.
8.) Member of the PGA of America (goes along with #7)
What's all that mean? Basically, I don't wear shorts on the golf course and have a card thats about as fancy as my cut-out-yourself pilot certificate.
Have no current plans to attempt at making a living on the PGA Tour, may give the '04 U.S. Open a shot.
And on to Annika...
It's her exemption, she'll play from the tips, let's see how she does. If you wouldn't make a fuss other than "I've never heard of that guy" for me taking the tee, then you should make less a fuss about someone who has a shot at not merely making the cut, but placing very well. Some of the remarks I've read including "is she driving the beer cart" I just want to hang my head in shame. It's like going to a golf course and not being permitted to walk due to a "Carts Only, Cartpath Only" rule in place. I play no faster, generally play poorer and definately slower when a cart is used because not only must I concentrate on scoring, but am not as relaxed as I would be had I been walking. I understand it's hard to carry your bellies and a spare 6 pack in a carry bag. You're so critical to your business that you must carry a cellular phone (Skuzzy, I'll give you an exemption on this one, I couldn't fathom all the whines you get about the server. Doctors too are excluded from the "that jerk" list, anyone else carry a pager on Buzz mode and wait till the turn to make the call) and not to mention all the other clumsy unhelpful gizmo-gadgets I've seen players, and my students alike, bring with them. (Tin Cup eccentricities I assure you are not limited to the silver screen) But guys, come on. When you can beat her, or play anywhere remotely near her level, that is when you can judge whether or not she belongs inside the ropes. I say she's a player, and think that many LPGA members could play the boys shot for shot. I can tell you that more often than not they'd knock the socks off me but then again playing golf is not my livelihood as I am a Golf Professional, not a Professional Golfer. So lets see how she does...
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Originally posted by Airhead
Oh, and Babe Didrikson was a man.
She'd kick your bellybutton for saying that too!
(http://www.womenonthegreen.com/media/zaharias.jpg)
IIRC Babe's AAU Track team won the national championship in 1930. The catch was, she WAS the team.
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out of curiosity, if anyone happens to know, has anyone playing with an exemption ever won?
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Nicely put Golfer.
I agree 100%. Oh,..I don't need that exemption. I would not walk onto a course with a pager or cell phone. I hate those things as much as you do. Only emergency personnel should be allowed to carry those onto a course.
I pull my own bag around. Won't play on a 'cart only' course. I like the walk, and it gives me a bit of time to think about that next shot.
I am no where near a pro golfer. I caddied for my Dad when I was growing up.
Like I have said, once you are on the tee, the sex of the player is irrelevant.
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...and because you mentioned sex.
Golf is like sex. You don't have to be any good at it to enjoy it. :)
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True Sandman
Hmmm,..that feels wrong on soooo many levels. :D
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It becomes easier over time... just repeat after me:
"You're right, Sandman."
..and continue until the feeling of unease has passed.
:D
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Golf is not a sport.
correct. it's only a hobby. that phrase could also be golfs mantra.
And, they call it 'golf' because the other 4 letter swear words were already taken.
OTOH, women do have a function to perform in golf..
A guy stood over his tee shot for what seemed an eternity; looking up, looking down, measuring the distance, figuring the wind direction and speed. He was driving his partner nuts. Finally his exasperated partner says, "What's taking so long? Hit the blasted ball!"
The guy answers, "My wife is up there watching me from the clubhouse. I want to make this a perfect shot."
"Forget it, man. You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of hitting her from here!"
.. as targets.
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hehehehe
Got my first golf clubs ever for christmas, I haven't been to a driving range yet (never played at all) but am hoping to play at this years con.
Just wear hard hats...it'll all be fine.
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Anybody else takes mine.
Low Net wins...any takers?
Entry Fee....$100,000
-edit- Hitech, I'll play you for "pink slips" I win, I get your RV8, You win, you get my...um...car! sight unseen in both cases
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Golfer seriously if you play near me, you may end up with a handicap.
I'm not the most graceful person ever, then add a long metal stick with a lobe at the end and there's bound to be trouble.
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Putting more than anything else determines how well one will do in a game.
What's that old saying? "Drive for show, putt for dough."
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I once won a junior tournament while hitting 2 fairways, one of which wasnt the hole i was on, so statistics show i hit only one fairway. I did however, hit 14 greens in regulation (including the "accidental" fairway hole) while posting 68. In the words of the second place finisher (also in my group, hitting many more fairways than I) "i hit it in the funk"
Still remember that day...it was HOT.
Anyways...yes...the greens are where you score and around the greens is where you save your score. (my words when it comes to short game)