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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ice on September 13, 2000, 04:08:00 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that at least to me, the Yak is either the most dangerous aircraft in this sim or the best pilots fly it.
I have a fit with the Yak....it holds its E...its fast....turns on a dime and grabs hard....All other aircraft I fly relaxed against, but not this devil!
Is it just me or has anyone else noticed the Yak to be as dangerous as I percieve it to be?
I'm Out!
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The Yak rules... I had a 40 kill streak with it in T7.
Not many people fly it because it has a small ammount of ammo, this doesn't realy come into play though with a good marksman/pilot behind the controls.
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Yup the Yak is an awesome plane. I think one of the best things is people continually underate/underestimate it. It manouvers like crazy, is fast as hell(no WEP needed) and is a small target too. Limited ammo yes, but those MG's are very powerful and the cannon positively shreds. My favorite is catching P-51's, they think they're the fastest, but get em down to the ground and out of WEP and "yum" lunch (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Great.. Thanks Ice. Now the freakin sky's gonna be filled with F4u-1c's and gawdamned YAKS.
*sigh*
As if us pony pushers didn't already have a full plate. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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The aircraft is good, but the biggest thing is that only the very new or the very good fly it.
Good Aircraft+Excellent Pilot+Underestimated Ability = Very Deadly Combo
Just imagine what it could do if Pyro had used the 437mph flight test data instead of the 417mph flight test data.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Sorry Hang (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Guess it's time to start using full throttle in our 51's....I know we talked about not doing that due to the adverse effect it would have on the LW drivers in the sim, but some direct action needs to be taken.
I'm Out and at full throttle!
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fortunately it has such a smal ammo load .. but the few people who fly it regularely ,,
i fear ya guys (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
<S>
DW6
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The Yak is a very sweet ride, especially with the new FM. It can turn with pretty much everything (except those wingtip pivot turns the N1K's do) and out climb most to boot.
The Yak drivers you have to worry about are the ones who dinnae fire until they're saddled up good about 150-200yds behind ya. You get a Yak firing at you from over 500yds it's either a newbie Yak pilot, desperate to try and kill ya (maybe out of fuel), trying to break your concentration cause you're on his squadmate/countryman.
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To help you non-YAK milk drinking pilots! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)I found a weakness in the Yak at least at low altitude against the 190A5 and probably the A8(can't remember for sure (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) If you can slow it down when turning near stall speeds the 190 has superior acceleration. You can easily gain seperation by leveling out away from the Yak's turn direction and pull away like he "blew his clutch" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)! Don't try it unless you know he is slow too! The YAK is a great plane. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) BERSERKR
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The Yak is the russian equivelant of the 109F4.. to some extent. Turns real well, climbs real well, steady gun platform(!!!!!!!!!!!!!), and it can go vertical like a monkey on boat(weed laced with PCP). It's an excellent platform, the drawback is it'sg as load... not the ammo load. Planes with nose mounted armament are a freaking menace. Aiming is easier and you can really put the shots where they are needed.. the engine, pilot or tail. I remember the first time I took it up in 1.03. I took off, flew to I believe it was A4, and shot down quite a few craft while evading planes diving on me from above. Sweet ride, haven't flown it in this revision.. how's it fly this time?
I noticed one of the easiest ways to get away from a Yak(in a P38 anyway..) is to get level. While he's gaining on you from behind at around 1K back pull back into a steep climb. When he pulls back to follow, nose back down and ZOOM you go away leaving him in the dust. This was in 1.03 tho, so maybe the lesser E bleed means that Yak would catch up.. *gasp*
-SW
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Yaks are for Quacks!
Yeager (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I have to completely agree. It used to be that 109 G10 was my most feared plane, now the yak has taken that mantle. It is truly an awesome plane. Not as fast as the mustang but if it catches ya low its aceleration makes short work of mustangs.
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I am now flying the yak.
Ponies, beware. I kill ponies before any other type (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cuz i hate runstangs (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
YAKATTACK
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
I am now flying the yak.
Ponies, beware. I kill ponies before any other type (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Cuz i hate runstangs (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
YAKATTACK
Hmmm....I have the same feeling for Yaks (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Ding
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I've been flying the YAK for a while, and really love it. The small ammo loadout does require you saddle up and close the range to quite close before firing, the down side to that of course is that it means extra time that the con has to ping the wingman your tryin to clear, but when ya do get em in range..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
(http://pages.hotbot.com/games/davekirk/images/AHyak.jpg)
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[This message has been edited by milnko (edited 09-14-2000).]
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Originally posted by milnko:
...the down side to that of course is that it means extra time that the con has to ping the wingman your tryin to clear, but when ya do get em in range..... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
This used to be a peeve of mine when flying the Yak: it required close quarters for a kill with reasonable ammo (something I never had to do with the La-5FN). In the pre-1.04 FM this usually meant eventual death, because it meant a turnfight with an evading con, resulting in totally bled energy. Now, in 1.04 with the lower induced drag levels a Yak can survive in such a situation.
I guess the time of Sorrow has finally arrived (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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Great plane. And what about la5, are there more of them in arena now? They shall be more competative now with new FM.
Fariz
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Originally posted by CavemanJ:
You get a Yak firing at you from over 500yds it's either a newbie Yak pilot, desperate to try and kill ya (maybe out of fuel), trying to break your concentration cause you're on his squadmate/countryman.
Or a try to get that last hit into the escaping enemys wing after hard pounding, so it would break up...
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Originally posted by Fariz:
Great plane. And what about la5, are there more of them in arena now? They shall be more competative now with new FM.
Fariz
Good point, Fariz. I've been thinking about this too. The Lavochkin was my ride until the Yakovlev came, but now I only fly the La-5FN when I'm looking for bombers. Maybe the new FM has been gracious with the La-5 too. It certainly seems that way.
Of the two aircraft the Yakovlev has much wider performance vs altitude, a lot more. In fact, the Yak-9U is good until nearly 24k. The La-5FN roughly tops out at about 17k, and that's a 7k difference. About the only place the Lavochkin may find some parity with the Yakovlev is from 5k, down. But the one thing the La-5FN has over the Yak-9U is two ShVAKs with 200 rds each (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif), and for me that's a very tempting feature ... decisions, decisions (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Sifter & SeaWulfe, I don't think I would try those manuevers in 1.04 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
There was a problem with the Yak in 1.03 where as it accelerated, its trim would go off, and the nose would rise, scrubbing off what speed you were gaining.
Its fixed. The Yak is now one of the fastest accelerators in the game now. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Yak pilots should love this little movie:
http://firelight.dynip.com/PlaneStats/yak-fighter7.mov (http://firelight.dynip.com/PlaneStats/yak-fighter7.mov)
Enjoy! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I flew the yak the first day it came out in 1.03 and that's all I have ever flown since. Yes the yak in 1.03 bled a little more E then the new version, but I used that to my advantage to force an overshoot or attacking plane would run out of E and Auger. With the right usage of flaps and rudder it was and still is easy to reverse the situation. Dont know why you all think the Yak just now came of age, it was always there before, you just didnt want to take the time to learn it.
Yak-9 easy to fly hard to master
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I'd never really tried the Yak, but just did some offline flying in it....you're right, that's got some nice characteristics! Have to try that in the MA sometime soon.
(at this point, all the other Yak drivers look around and go "Damn, there go our reputations as good pilots! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ).
Thanks for the tip.
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John Sponauer
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Originally posted by leonid:
But the one thing the La-5FN has over the Yak-9U is two ShVAKs with 200 rds each (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif), and for me that's a very tempting feature ... decisions, decisions (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I fly yak9u almost all the time h2h now, and find it extremely good plane, very capable. It lacks firepower, esp. against buffs, but this plane is a real fun.
I think that when I am back to MA I will aply for VVS. So there is a chance that we may fly in a wing one day leonid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Fariz
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Originally posted by Jerry B:
Yak pilots should love this little movie:
http://firelight.dynip.com/PlaneStats/yak-fighter7.mov (http://firelight.dynip.com/PlaneStats/yak-fighter7.mov)
I LOVE IT!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Spassibo, tovarishch!
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DrSoya
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF
Part of the Northolt Wing (http://www.raf303.org/northolt) (First Polish Fighter Wing)
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Hmm (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
I find it amusing that PPL think you have to be close in a Yak to be dangerous. The truth is that I do 50% of my kills at 400-500 yds. The trick is that I pick my shots carefully- seperate ShVAk and 12.5 mm - they do different jobs. Dead 6 close up 20mm at low deflection kills fast. But most of my kills are with the MG. 12.5 has the range of the .50 cal but more punch at 500 yds IMHO.
ignore dead 6 shots- with ones from a low deflection high or low aspect angle these bullets rip right through the pilot and engine- they penetrate the whole plane!
My fav kill of all time was Citabria in his p-38, he went over the top with me 400 yds behind, just as he was perfectly profiled I shot a line of bullets right up his middle pilots bump. Not one miss, perfect. So lesson is- BEWARE a pilot that fires from 500 yds in a Yak. He just may know what he's doing and YOUR in trouble (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I have some footage of Towd dancing around in a Yak against 4 bogies. I'd give it out except he kills me in it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
He got 2 pilots before going down.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by Fariz:
I think that when I am back to MA I will aply for VVS. So there is a chance that we may fly in a wing one day leonid (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Fariz
Moi drug,
You will always be welcome in the 5 GIAP (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights (http://www.adamfive.com/guerrero)
"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."
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BTW that pic on my previous post is an AH screenshot doctored up to look aged.
For a couple more YAK screenshots look here: More Pics (http://members.xoom.com/rowgue/temppic.html)
The 2nd Realplayer AH movie I made with my new ASUS videocard featured the YAK in action! Check it out:
Shoot to Thrill (http://members.nbci.com/rowgue/yak.ra)
or look here:
ASSASSINS Wallpaper & Mini-Movies (http://members.xoom.com/rowgue/Wallpaper.html)
Salute & Enjoy!
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[This message has been edited by milnko (edited 09-15-2000).]
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A fellow Yak fan.. how about a Yak3..
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TS
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Well, today marked the combat debut of Spoons in a Yak.
Kills: 0
Deaths: 2 (1 to flak while I was typing)
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Love a lot of the performance of it, but the damned icon flicker is killing me. With the big metal square in front, and the regular cockpit metal, I seem to always lose sight of the bandit, especially when he's lower than I and profiled against the ground. Doesn't help that I can't get padlock to work for some reason (that's another story I think).
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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Yike, Vermillion! Now I need to find another way to "get mine". Alright guys,.... stop this thread, get to the arena and quit "Yakkin off" ! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Berserkr
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ammo has 47 kills and has been killed 26 times in the Yak-9U against all countries.
darn near 2-1. I really enjoyed the yak but havent flown it much lately. Cobra and I seemed to "find" each other and we would both be yaks. Man we had some good fights!!!