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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: osage on April 12, 2003, 06:44:49 AM
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jeez, almost fell out of my chair.
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ROTFLOL!
They must have missed Boosh's speech about "Get with us, or get out of our way"
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I've (like 99,9% of the french) no idea of what the Stooges are ...
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Originally posted by straffo
I've (like 99,9% of the french) no idea of what the Stooges are ...
They call them "Les Trois Faire-Valoir" in French.
Larry, Moe and of course, Bouclé.
"Tous les Français bon chic bon genre" adore their slaphappy tomfoolery.
Don't forget you guys awarded Jerry Lewis la Legion d'Honneur, Frances highest decoration, for his earthshaking achievements in slapstick comedy.
HEY LAAAADY!
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Originally posted by osage
Don't forget you guys awarded Jerry Lewis la Legion d'Honneur, Frances highest decoration, for his earthshaking achievements in slapstick comedy.
both wrong and offensive : he got the Légion d'Honneur because of the Telethon and "dystrophie musculaire"
Are General Schwarzkopf anf G. Peck clown too ?
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I would guess GWB is kind of a long shot for the medal this year?
I am pretty sure they will give it to Assad for his "Arab hospitality" to the fleeing Baath party members and their WMD baggage?
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Originally posted by straffo
both wrong and offensive : he got the Légion d'Honneur because of the Telethon and "dystrophie musculaire"
Are General Schwarzkopf anf G. Peck clown too ?
I suspect Schwarzkopf has already quietly returned his medal.
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Try to search who can have the légion d'Honneur and next explain me why you look to confuse Légion d'Honneur and Nobel prize.
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Originally posted by osage
I suspect Schwarzkopf has already quietly returned his medal.
What is your problem ?
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Osage's Current French Problem:
France Shows Solidarity With Damascus
By BENNY AVNI Special to the New York Sun
UNITED NATIONS — President Bush yesterday accused Syria of having chemical weapons and warned it against trying to help the remnants of Saddam Hussein’s regime.
Even as the president spoke with reporters on his return from Camp David, France publicly displayed its solidarity with Syria — its former colony and its last remaining Ba’athist ally.
"We believe there are chemical weapons in Syria," Mr. Bush told reporters in the Rose Garden in a move seemingly calculated to ratchet up the rhetorical pressure on Iraq’s neighbor.
This was the first time such an accusation was raised by anyone in the administration. It also represented a clear escalation in the barrage of almost daily warnings from Washington directed at Damascus.
Mr. Bush however, was careful not to threaten military action. "They just need to cooperate," Mr. Bush said."We expect cooperation, and I’m hopeful we’ll receive cooperation," he added.
Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld refused to specify how the administration would respond if Saddam turns up in Damascus. But appearing on CBS, he said that in such a case, "Syria would have made an even bigger mistake." American officials continued to accuse Damascus of harboring remnants of Saddam’s regime, including two female scientists implicated in biological warfare: Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, known as "Mrs. Anthrax," and Rihab Taha, nicknamed "Dr. Germs" and considered the highest ranked female Iraqi Ba’ath member. The last visible official of the regime, United Nations ambassador Mohammad Aldouri, was also reportedly on his way to Damascus after leaving New York over the weekend.
Syria sought to defuse the growing tension. Its foreign ministry spokeswoman, Buthayna Shaaban, told Al-Jazeera television Syria’s borders with Iraq are closed and reiterated that none of the Iraqi leaders had asked to come to Syria.
"As you know, Syria’s history with the Iraqi regime have never been cordial, but we have always been keen about the Iraqi people," she said.
The increasingly sharp tone in Washington toward Syria prompted criticism from French Foreign Minister Dominique de Villepin, on a tour of Arab capitals this weekend. His most prominent stop was Damascus, where he visited President Bashar Assad on Saturday. In a demonstration of solidarity with the Syrian regime, Mr. De Villepin shared a press conference with Foreign Minister Farouk al-Shara.
He did not go so far as to endorse Syrian denials of harboring escaped Iraqi leaders and a cache of weapons of mass destruction smuggled from Iraq, but his defense of the Ba’athist leaders in Damascus sounded very much like his earlier defense of Saddam’s regime.
Rather than mending fences with Washington in the post-war environment, France thus signaled a continuation of its policy of confrontation with the sole world superpower.
American officials said over the weekend that they captured numerous Arab nationals, including many Syrians, fighting in Iraq. General Tommy Franks said in television appearances that many of them were recruited in Damascus and went to Iraq through Syria.
Syria also continues to assist Hezbollah, an organization based in Syriancontrolled Lebanon, which was implicated in numerous terrorist acts in Israel and around the world, including against American targets.
"He is acting very irresponsibly," Dore Gold,an Israeli government adviser, told the Sun, referring to President Assad. "I’m not sure he knows what he is doing."
But for Mr. de Villepin — who also included stops in Egypt, Lebanon, and Saudi Arabia in his trip — Syria was unfairly criticized. He warned of the consequences of confrontation with Syria.
"The time is not correct. The time is to work together," Mr. de Villepin said in Beirut, referring to the critics in Washington. "The time is for consultation, for dialogue."
He offered instead five steps for solving the Israeli-Palestinian dispute, which he claimed were consistent with the so-called "road map," a plan endorsed by a quartet consisting of Washington, the European Union, Russia and the United Nations.
Mr. de Villepin, however, seemed to go further than the quartet, offering an international conference, hosted of course by France, that would conclude the "peace of the brave" — a term favored by Mr. Arafat.
Jerusalem is strongly opposed to any significant international — other than American — involvement in the Palestinian track.
"Who needs the involvement of Europe, Russia and the U.N. after they failed so miserably on the eve of the war? " Mr. Gold said. These, especially France, are considered in Jerusalem too friendly to Arab states, and their defense of Iraq in the Security Council confirmed that notions to many in Israel.
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The rift between France and the US will never heal....at least until the US elects another Clinton type or France changes it's leadership.
Outside of the Iraqi's getting a chance for self government and not living under the regime of Saddam, the best to come out of all of this is we finally got a clear and honest look at who our friends really are.
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France is running out of terrorist harboring nations to support.
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Post the link I've an hard time reading your post.
Martlet : you've gone to far.
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Originally posted by straffo
Martlet : you've gone to far.
funny, I was thinking the same thing about France.
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Straffo,
It's http://www.nysun.com front page.
You have to register to read it. I'm not sure a web translator thing will work, given their java-heavy website construction.
I mean nothing personal to you in my attacks on the French government, but this constant, mindless, arrogant opposition to the U.S. just to show that France is willing to stand up to the "hyperpower" is "INSUPPORTABLE!"
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I've been unable to register ...
Btw I don't see oposition in de Villepin speech (at least in the original french speech) and I don't know were he criticised USA in his speech.
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The old Arab saying "the enemy of my friend is my enemy" makes sense. The converse applies too.
Also: "the mother-in-law of my enemy's cousin's friend's sheep is the friend of my uncle's goat's enemy fleas."
And who will forget:
"GOD IS ROASTING THEIR STOMACHS IN HELL AS WE SPEAK!"
http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
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As some of the Anti-US Government camp are fond of saying.....We're not Anti-French or against the French people, we against the French Government.
I mean, why can't that be used in reverse?
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Originally posted by Stringer
As some of the Anti-US Government camp are fond of saying.....We're not Anti-French or against the French people, we against the French Government.
I mean, why can't that be used in reverse?
I can be called an "anti-Russian government" myself. But there is some difference.
I bet you don't care and don't even know about the problems in Russia that worry me.
Now some questions: I still didn't understand who are that "tree stooges", I don't know French. Why are Putin and Chirac pulling Schroeder's ears? He has a birthday? German is in the middle, why French is at the right and Russian at the left?... :rolleyes:
We are enemies with the US? Should we really send some military assistance to the next target for the agression?... So far the only action that was considered "hostile" by American government was the attempt to stop American chicken meat import because it doesn't comply with our sanitary standards. US Department of State was furious about it and threatened to ban Russian steel and other exports to the US.
:rolleyes:
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LOL - hilarious pic
I outgrew Jerry Lewis by the time I was 11 or 12. I'll never outgrow Moe, Larry, and Curly. All time kings of slapstick.
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Originally posted by Boroda
I can be called an "anti-Russian government" myself. But there is some difference.
I bet you don't care and don't even know about the problems in Russia that worry me.
Now some questions: I still didn't understand who are that "tree stooges", I don't know French. Why are Putin and Chirac pulling Schroeder's ears? He has a birthday? German is in the middle, why French is at the right and Russian at the left?... :rolleyes:
We are enemies with the US? Should we really send some military assistance to the next target for the agression?... So far the only action that was considered "hostile" by American government was the attempt to stop American chicken meat import because it doesn't comply with our sanitary standards. US Department of State was furious about it and threatened to ban Russian steel and other exports to the US.
:rolleyes:
I'm not positive, but I think they considered spying for Saddam and selling him arms hostile too.
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Originally posted by Martlet
I'm not positive, but I think they considered spying for Saddam and selling him arms hostile too.
Some looney from your "free press" already said that they evacuated Saddam in a Russian diplomatic convoy...
I'll tell you more: he was brought to Kremlin already, and now lives under a Tzar-bell, I saw him yesterday, talked a while, he must be really an evil dictator because he refused to drink vodka with us... As if I never drank vodka with Moslims!
Martlet, do you believe everything they say? Are you sure that McDonalds food is so good for your health as they say?
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Originally posted by Boroda
Some looney from your "free press" already said that they evacuated Saddam in a Russian diplomatic convoy...
I'll tell you more: he was brought to Kremlin already, and now lives under a Tzar-bell, I saw him yesterday, talked a while, he must be really an evil dictator because he refused to drink vodka with us... As if I never drank vodka with Moslims!
Martlet, do you believe everything they say? Are you sure that McDonalds food is so good for your health as they say?
actually, the press said there were "reports" of russian's helping saddam escape. And there were. No lie there.
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The word from the intelligence community is that the U.S. strafing of the Russian convoy was intentional.
But the new KGB boys forgot to get the copies of the documents in the Iraqi intelligence ministry though. Speed kills.
How embarassing. This would never have happened under Uncle Joe Stalin.
Failed states can be so amusing.
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Originally posted by osage
The word from the intelligence community is that the U.S. strafing of the Russian convoy was intentional.
But the new KGB boys forgot to get the copies of the documents in the Iraqi intelligence ministry though. Speed kills.
How embarassing. This would never have happened under Uncle Joe Stalin.
Failed states can be so amusing.
Russian Foreign Ministry already said the strafing (yeah! the right word! Didn't know how to translate "obstrel") was unintentional, but they want people responsible for it to be punished.
To Martlet: you can say thay there were reports that Saddam now lives under Tzar Bell in Kremlin, until they prepare a place for him in Lenin's mausoleum.
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Edit: double post
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LOL LOL
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Originally posted by Boroda
To Martlet: you can say thay there were reports that Saddam now lives under Tzar Bell in Kremlin, until they prepare a place for him in Lenin's mausoleum.
Odd, I hadn't heard that report.
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Originally posted by Martlet
Odd, I hadn't heard that report.
I tell ya. Am I not a reliable source? At least I live in Moscow and have an access to Tzar Bell in Kremlin, while the "reports" you quoted were written by people who have never been to Iraq or Moscow.
Should sound like this: "Numerous sources from Moscow that have direct access to Kremlin reported..." and so on. Sorry, why do I have to teach you, you know better how this things should sound.
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Originally posted by osage
Also: "the mother-in-law of my enemy's cousin's friend's sheep is the friend of my uncle's goat's enemy fleas."
I need a night of resting to reread and understand this.
;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
I tell ya. Am I not a reliable source?
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actually, you've proven you are not a reliable source.
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Originally posted by Martlet
actually, you've proven you are not a reliable source.
Proven by whom?
Who told you the authors of "reports" you heard are "proven to be reliable"? At least my report sounds so nice and anti-Russian - it should be immediately printed in every newspaper! And at least some parts are true: I live in Moscow and have everyday access to Kremlin, Tzar-Bell is there and can be a nice shelter for a dictator without a country, and there is enough space in Lenin's mausoleum for at least two persons...
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france-germany russia...AXIS OF WEAZELS....
plain and simple..
Nice job russia..Offering assasins for hire...
not what so ever suprising...
AGAIN..
ALL those countries are PLAYER HATERS.....sad,,but true..
SO STOP PH'n
lmfao..
france-germany-russia..your gov SUCKS ascss...(Bad prettythang not good prettythang)
Love
BiGB
xoxo
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Originally posted by Boroda
Proven by whom?
Who told you the authors of "reports" you heard are "proven to be reliable"? At least my report sounds so nice and anti-Russian - it should be immediately printed in every newspaper! And at least some parts are true: I live in Moscow and have everyday access to Kremlin, Tzar-Bell is there and can be a nice shelter for a dictator without a country, and there is enough space in Lenin's mausoleum for at least two persons...
your rhetoric has become so discredited, you've resorted to idiotic banter.
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Originally posted by Martlet
your rhetoric has become so discredited, you've resorted to idiotic banter.
Western yellow press finding "secret documents" about Russian government offering "assasins for hire" is even more idiotic.
You didn't answer my question: do you really think that McDonalds food is as healthy as they tell you?
:D
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France has had many more years of relations with Arab countries then the US has....actually many MANY more
BUT....France is kinda pushing it too far...never thought they would still be against the US for so long....and show so much conviction.
to Straffo.....mon pote...Chirac va trop loin dans c'est commentaire contre les americains....meme t'es cousins Quebecois le pense aussi....pas dans le sense negative....juste un peu trop de hmm hmm persistance ou de hmmm conviction....Chirac va paye pour cela dans le future.....c'etait juste un petit commentaire de un de tes cousin Quebecois:D
never forget you've had similar dubious relations yourselves as Americans.....
ask the Kurds about your double standards.....
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Originally posted by Boroda
Western yellow press finding "secret documents" about Russian government offering "assasins for hire" is even more idiotic.
You didn't answer my question: do you really think that McDonalds food is as healthy as they tell you?
:D
you've been reading pravda again. You should really get a news source that prints the facts. Then, you wouldn't think anyone tells us McDonald's food is healthy. It was, in fact, recently sued for being so UNhealthy.
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Borada...........Western yellow press finding "secret documents" about Russian government offering "assasins for hire" is even more idiotic.
Whats even more moronic is all your.."Interecepted transmisiions"
lmfao...
MAny many helo's went down...many many tanks done blow'd up..
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SLO c'est leur interprétation qui est farfelue ...
de toute façon toute réaction qui ne va pas dans la sens est une action anti-américaine ... et apres ils vont nous accuser d'arrogance...
Faudrais peut-être qu'ils commencent à regarder leur propre comportement avant de critiquer celui des autres.
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Originally posted by straffo
SLO c'est leur interprétation qui est farfelue ...
de toute façon toute réaction qui ne va pas dans la sens est une action anti-américaine ... et apres ils vont nous accuser d'arrogance...
Faudrais peut-être qu'ils commencent à regarder leur propre comportement avant de critiquer celui des autres.
it's pretty sad when the only way you can win an argument, is to post in a language the rest don't understand. Or most of the rest.....
SLO
Et c'est le point, Chirac est entré trop loin dans l'opinion de l'Amérique.
Straffo
Sourd-muet en tant que jamais.
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You can post whatever you want Martlet it's like "pisser dans un violon".
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Nous jouons des violons ici, pour ne pas les employer comme salle de bains.
Mis m'en arrière sur ignorez.
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With all due respect to the French people; the French govn't has been idiotic and not learned from past events.
I mean, even a child knows it is no good going up against the US when the US is in Pissed Off Mood.
Better to be smart, back down, wait til the tantrum is over and *then* start to apply pressure.
We've seen countless time in the 20th century that an angry US cannot be reasoned with and cannot be stopped, and any attempts to do so will lead to huge divisions with little to show for it. This 'tantrum throwing' is one of the drawbacks of the US culture, but conversely also one of the strengths.
They shoullda backed down when they realized 'boy, they sure are sorta upset', but I feel French pride and the inheret anti-Americanism in French administrations meant they couldn't. And sadly enough it probably boils down to envy; France *needs* to get over the 'we used to be a great superpower and we still are and we are the apex of sophisticated culture' syndrome that seem to exist in all French politicians.
But I must ask Americans not to judge the French people as a whole. I've been fortunate enough to meet some of them and once you have broken the ice, French people *are* a passionate people with a good understanding of the finer things in life.
Same goes for the French though - they have a tendency to judge Americans solely on their administration and they have a tendency to consider themselves culturally more advanced than Americans.
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What you so condescendingly refer to as "throwing a tantrum" would more accurately be described as "righteous indignation" Santa. And it is this anger that's pulled Europe's fat from the fire on more than one occasion.
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sure after waiting 2 years ...
A bit slow ?
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"slow to anger" is usually considered to be a virtue
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sorry...just wanted to leave a message to straffo in his NATIVE tongue....
looks like it insulted Martlet....to bad I don't give a rats ass:p
Straffo we can spit at each other all day......
we can say Americans this Americans that....French this French that....in the end....no solution to the problem.
we gotta find a solution.....whats going on now is intolerable.....western civilized nations fighting each other.....NOT GOOD.
we have Terrorist to find......
we have trouble with N.Korea....
we have the enviroment to care for(pollution).....
etc etc.
Americans and French DO have a history......its only wishful thinking that you did not.....
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Originally posted by AKIron
"slow to anger" is usually considered to be a virtue
ignoring the person that angers you is called WISDOM:D
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SLO, there's no fighting between western nations. Not a shot has been fired. Now if you're talking about ill will and trade boycotts, too late for that, damage has been done already by one side. They'll soon reap the whirlwind they have sown.
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Tient donc un pisse froid de petit merdeux voudrais que l'on baisse sa cullote devant lui et c'est normal ?
Et en plus c'est nous qui avont commencé ?
Va chier M. Iron t'es vraiment trop con.
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this is exactly what I mean....
1 American saying something against a French....
1 French sayin something against an American....
and so on and so on onononononononononononononono oonononononononoonononononono nononononononononononon...... blablabla
you will pay for it too AkIron.......your not immune
you too straffo.....
let just say we got mistakes to repair.....
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Attend , depuis combien de temps ce gugusse et tout ses semblables nous insultent nous agressent ce foutent ouvertement de nous ?
J'ai rien contre les américains ou les français mais je deteste par dessus tout les imbéciles bornés qui se croient des exemples au-dessus de tout soupcon.
Ceux qui se croient de vrais boy-scouts alors que sous-jacent ce n'est que de l'opportunisme comme le font toutes les nations.
L'innocence dans les relation inter-nations je suis desolé mais ça fait longtempt que je n'y crois plus.
De plus la guerre en Iraq n'a jamais été autre chose que le révélateur d'un état d'esprit présent depuis longtemp dans la tête de certains conservateurs américains.
Regarde comme leur propagande est bien huillée ,travaillé , préparée ... il n'attendaient qu'une occasion pour se repaitre de leur propre suffisance.
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Originally posted by SLO
ignoring the person that angers you is called WISDOM:D
Which is what I and many other Americans intend to do regarding the French. Beginning with their wine.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Which is what I and many other Americans intend to do regarding the French. Beginning with their wine.
your not WISE my friend.....I didn't say boycott....boycotting is not ignoring...its actually doing something to the 1 angering you.....lets call it payback...not wisdom
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how did a joke turn into such a politcal argument :rolleyes:
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Call it what you want then SLO. I think France may WISE up a bit when they begin to see the effects of a non-France friendly market for their products here in the US of A.
Don't like it? Too bad, it's our money, most of us work hard for it, and no one is gonna tell us how to spend it, certainly not some Canadian.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Call it what you want then SLO. I think France may WISE up a bit when they begin to see the effects of a non-France friendly market for their products here in the US of A.
Don't like it? Too bad, it's our money, most of us work hard for it, and no one is gonna tell us how to spend it, certainly not some Canadian.
you sound like a very angry young man.....letting things get to you too much is really not all that good...creates stress my friend.
relax AK we just discussing things....and since when did I tell you specifically HOW to spend your money....
and yes I am Canadian...and Im...psst psst...FRENCH:eek:
just joking with ya bud....:)
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I'm neither angry nor young. However, I would like to see France suffer economic disaster at the hands of American consumers, sue me.