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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on April 13, 2003, 10:43:49 AM
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Originally posted by blitz
You dislike every country and its people who are against this insane Iraq War.
Regards Blitz
Blitz tell me, are there any other wars or conflicts in the world today that you so are vehemently opposed too, or is the war on Iraq the only one that gets you so upset?
Listening to you, one may think that the liberation of Iraq was the worst human tragey of our time and the only thought in your mind.
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and the only thought in your mind.
mind?? that sap has a mind?
thought all he had was a keyboard hooked up to a computer set on 'auto-denigrate'.
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Russia's war (genocide) in Chechnya and France's involvement in the Ivory Coast where civilians are being massacred (and the French are not wanted there) must be the models of appropriate political solutions to problems because I never hear some people on these boards speak out on these despicable matters. I mean, these anti-war types on here are so against death and destruction that they look for these problems and solutions to these problems universally.
A few on these boards are two-faced and it's clear they have a real venom for the USA.
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Originally posted by Puke
Russia's war (genocide) in Chechnya and France's involvement in the Ivory Coast where civilians are being massacred (and the French are not wanted there) must be the models of appropriate political solutions to problems because I never hear some people on these boards speak out on these despicable matters. I mean, these anti-war types on here are so against death and destruction that they look for these problems and solutions to these problems universally.
A few on these boards are two-faced and it's clear they have a real venom for the USA.
Blitz only seems to view Iraq's liberation as a crime...... everything else in his world is okay.
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It seems threads discussing Henry Kissenger get locked because they apparently denigrate him.
Is this thread going to get locked because it is just an excuse for personal attack and denigration?
10 quid says it does.
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Originally posted by Dowding
It seems threads discussing Henry Kissenger get locked because they apparently denigrate him.
Is this thread going to get locked because it is just an excuse for personal attack and denigration?
10 quid says it does.
tell us where a personal attack has occured in this thread Dowding.
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I don't know Dowding, unfortunetly it seems it's okay for some personal attacks and not others.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
I don't know Dowding, unfortunetly it seems it's okay for some personal attacks and not others.
what personal attack?
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LOL plus again some feel they need to make a position for blitz, then argue against their own stated "facts".
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"Are you blind as well as stupid?"
The above is an example of a personal attack (for your reference). Now compare to the following:
mind?? that sap has a mind?
A few on these boards are two-faced
It's clear to me where this thread was going.
BTW Puke - perhaps you should look a little harder. The war in Chechnya was expansively discussed not so long ago and I've seen several threads about it. As for France's involvement in Africa - start a thread.
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lol Saburo, very true. They could just ignore him - they seem to have their own model of his POV ingrained in their brains, I'm sure there is nothing new to be heard.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
LOL plus again some feel they need to make a position for blitz, then argue against their own stated "facts".
I only pointed out that Blitz only seems to be opposed to the liberation of Iraq. I wonder why Blitz dosn't seem to worry about any other current conflicts.
What position did anyone state regarding Blitz?
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Originally posted by Dowding
"Are you blind as well as stupid?"
The above is an example of a personal attack (for your reference). Now compare to the following:
It's clear to me where this thread was going.
BTW Puke - perhaps you should look a little harder. The war in Chechnya was expansively discussed not so long ago and I've seen several threads about it. As for France's involvement in Africa - start a thread.
Dowding, asking a question is not a personal attack.
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don't hi-jack this thread please...I want Blitz to answer my question.
Originally posted by blitz
You dislike every country and its people who are against this insane Iraq War.
Regards Blitz
Blitz tell me, are there any other wars or conflicts in the world today that you so are vehemently opposed too, or is the war on Iraq the only one that gets you so upset?
Listening to you, one may think that the liberation of Iraq was the worst human tragey of our time and the only thought in your mind.
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You missed out the quotes I included in my post!
What were they if not personal attacks? Scotch mist?
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Originally posted by Dowding
You missed out the quotes I included in my post!
What were they if not personal attacks? Scotch mist?
must be mist.
who was attacked in the statement " a few on these boards are two faced"
or the question : mind, that sap has a mind" ?
Those are personal attacks? One is a general satement , the other a question.
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Oh my!
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after your answer Dowding, will you please offer us the courtesy of starting a new thread about the defintion of personal attacks?
I want Blitz to answer my question
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Originally posted by Dowding
Oh my!
that's all you can say?
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whats a "quid"?
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john9001: A quid is british currency. What I would like to know is what is 'lien'?
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A lien is a claim on property. Usually it refers to banks having a lien on a house or business, once the homeowner (or businessman) takes out a loan he can put up the property as collateral, giving the bank a lien on the property. If he fails to repay the loan, the bank can make good on the lien and seize the property, and sell it to recoup their losses.
Mechanics also get a 'mechanics lien" where they can hold an automobile until the owner pays for the services rendered.
By the way, apparently they are blind as well as stupid, Dowding.
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Thanks for clearing that out Urchin, there seems to be a gap in my vocabulary. You live and you learn.. :)
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BTW Puke - perhaps you should look a little harder. The war in Chechnya was expansively discussed not so long ago and I've seen several threads about it. As for France's involvement in Africa - start a thread. -Dowding
Somehow I missed anything serious about them. Maybe I will look into it and see where these characters in here stood on those issues, or if they just cropped up when given a chance to spew venom at the USA. Actually, to be honest, I do not have that time. I will make assumption that these people take the same stance on other atrocities going on in this world.
And "two-faced" is not really a personal attack but rather a valid description of an attitude. If I called you a devil's advocate is that me calling you names as well?
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Blitz is a tough enough girl. With tens of thousands of Iraqis her government has killed over the last 10 years by propping up Saddam's dictatorship she should expect a little criticism anyway.
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Originally posted by Fatty
Blitz is a tough enough girl. With tens of thousands of Iraqis her government has killed over the last 10 years by propping up Saddam's dictatorship she should expect a little criticism anyway.
Just wait until those Iraqis get their economy going and get on the internet. They are going to give Blitz and her sisters an assfull.
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Blitz = Post Monkey..
monkeys are cute. everybody would like to have a monkey.
only one small problem.. monkeys have some disgustingly bad personal habits... like flinging their shiit everywhere.
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There's no point in arguing with you, Nuke. I hope you're being obtuse for the sake of it.
Puke - imagine you are negociating a business deal with a supplier of your company. If you claimed they were being the devil's advocate, would they be offended? Probably not. If you claimed they were two faced, would they be offended? I think almost definitely.
Do a search on Chechnya with either mine, Boroda's or Toad's usernames. I suggest 'Babitsky' too - I remember having a long discussion about him, but I might have spelt his name incorrectly.
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Originally posted by Dowding
It seems threads discussing Henry Kissenger get locked because they apparently denigrate him.
Is this thread going to get locked because it is just an excuse for personal attack and denigration?
10 quid says it does.
Henry Kissinger thread was closed because he is an american warcriminal, directly responsible for the death of 300 000 cambodian people and partly indirectly responsible for the takeover of Polpot.
Not enough, he was involved in assasination of General Schneider in Chile, millitay coup in Chile against a democratlly elected government which cost the lives of 10thousands of innocents, torturing and so on.
He's responsible of genocide of people of Ost-Timor. And more.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/feature_kissinger.shtml
http://www.trialofhenrykissinger.org/
http://www.reelingreviews.com/thetrialsofhenrykissinger.htm
http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/general/2001/02drk.htm
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/m1111/1810_302/71250720/p1/article.jhtml?term=kissinger
http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/wanted/2002/0425tatchell.htm
http://www.nowarcollective.com/kissinger.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1129-06.htm
http://www.ecolivingcenter.com/board/main/messages/867.html
Please don't look in my backyard.
If this thread is closed it's because of Henry A. Kissinger, not because of personal attacks of gamers.
Regards Blitz
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Originally posted by NUKE
Blitz tell me, are there any other wars or conflicts in the world today that you so are vehemently opposed too, or is the war on Iraq the only one that gets you so upset?
http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/wanted/2002/0425tatchell.htm
It's the unbelievebale aggressiveness of american foreign policy seen in the last 12 month that makes this war unique for me.
When the russians invaded Afganisthan i was at the streets 2.
And there's absolutely no difference here other than Russia has at least at border to Ahganisthan.
American government had absolutely no right to invade Iraq. Human Rights was never their goal, if they speak about that, it's just for the audience sitting in front of their TVs.
The only right they can count on with their evil politics are their military and economical power.
They have not even found any WMDs in Iraq yet as they told us, they knew exactly were they are but can't give information about to UN inspectors because they had to cover their sources, and now they threaten Syria with a war. These guys in the White House are dangerous and overbearing. It's a shame these unresponsible cowboys dare to speak about morality.
Listening to you, one may think that the liberation of Iraq was the worst human tragey of our time and the only thought in your mind. [/B]
Hitler liberated parts of Soviet Union 2, the people there praised them as liberators. Does that tell me anything about it was right or not?
I know You know some people in the neighbourhood guilty of crimes but they still free.
Go, beat 'em up and feel great!
It's the difference between political culture and Evil Power Play.
You'll never understand that nuke.
Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust.
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LOL! You're funny blitz. But in a sad way.
MiniD
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Puke, Chechnya was discussed.
I think, if you look it up, you'll find Dowding and I pretty much in agreement in those threads. That alone ought to tell you something.
Boroda, of course, saw it a bit differently.
But once again... Comedy Gold buried in those threads!
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Blitz = Post Monkey..
monkeys are cute. everybody would like to have a monkey.
only one small problem.. monkeys have some disgustingly bad personal habits... like flinging their shiit everywhere.
:)
Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust.
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Originally posted by funkedup
Just wait until those Iraqis get their economy going and get on the internet. They are going to give Blitz and her sisters an assfull.
Believe the Propaganda show of ya evil goverernment and enjoy it if ya like :)
Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust and bloody.
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Blitz doesnt seem to know anything. Its a shame that with all the new hope and justice the allied forces have brought to Iraq, are wrong and unjust in blitz's eyes.
Blitz you are obviously blind. Look at the people in iraq. THEIR OPINIONS matter, not your ignorant spewing about how "we are evil americans" blah blah.. wake up.
wow your dumb..
I am So extremely happy that there are People in the world who take action to make for a better future. A better future for US and others.
Blitz, you can sit idle and pretend to live in a eutopian world, and let all the worries float away in that mind of yours. Come to think about it... isn't that what the U.N did? :rolleyes:
Anywho.. Blitz perhaps someday, you will "get it" and understand better why millions of iraqi people are now free more than ever in a long time, and able to live without the fear of being killed because of a difference of thought.
Tchüß
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Originally posted by GScholz
Hey Blitz! Thought you left. Glad you didn't. :)
THX :)
Work has me in his grip and my bicycle when there is some sparetime :)
Regards Blitz
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Originally posted by JoeSmoe
Blitz you are obviously blind. Look at the people in iraq. THEIR OPINIONS matter, not your ignorant spewing about how "we are evil americans" blah blah.. wake up.
Tchüß
Can't remember Iraq people asked american forces to destroy their country and kill thousands of innocents and hurt 10thousands in the name of 'Freedom'
What would ya write on their gravestones?
"We died because Mr. Bush decided that we have to be 'liberated'.
And we like it."
One second i heard:"We are avoiding death of civilians"
Next second ( after many innocent cililians dead) i heard:" What ya expect, it's wartime, the lifes of our men count. "
Sorry, don't buy that.
Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust and bloody.
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Originally posted by GScholz
Well at least you got plenty of work. I'm down to 60% worktime because of the bad situation in the printing industry here. :(
Btw. I hope someday when this is all over that people on the BBS get to see the good natured man called Blitz, and not only this pissing contest. I mean I don't agree to most of what you post Blitz, but you're a true goodguy.
btw. Was in Norway several times wth a bike. Worked their on a farm near Farsund. Was a lot of nice people there during the summer. Dutch, american, brits, german. We were workin 6 hours a day for bed and food and had some great parties in the nights. Was fun time :)
Regards Blitz
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Originally posted by blitz
One second i heard:"We are avoiding death of civilians"
Next second ( after many innocent cililians dead) i heard:" What ya expect, it's wartime, the lifes of our men count. "
Sorry, don't buy that.
Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust and bloody.
Blitz you dont buy anything about americas goodness, you have a hard wired commie mindset.
Burn america! death to america!
You dont buy the Iraqis jubilation at being free?
Dancing in the streets and waving american flags?
No of course not, that was staged, much like the america
moonwalk was staged. American propoganda! Lies!
Ya know what? We get damned tired of you calling us liars,
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Blitz, what is your answer to the hunderds of thousands of innocent Iraqis that were killed and being killed by Saddam Hussein? Have you no compassion for these people?
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Can't remember Iraq people asked american forces to destroy their country and kill thousands of innocents and hurt 10thousands in the name of 'Freedom'
Where do you get these numbers?
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Originally posted by rc51
Where do you get these numbers?
Don't bother, it's just propaganda :)
Regards Blitz
btw. What will happen if ya drop 4*900kg TNT within minutes on a target in the middle of private houses.
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Blitz will not answer that Iron, he'll simply post another half dozen irrelevant links about an entirely different subject.
I guess what he's trying to say is those Iraqi deaths under Saddam are justifed because he doesn't like Kissinger (?)
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Originally posted by AKIron
Blitz, what is your answer to the hunderds of thousands of innocent Iraqis that were killed and being killed by Saddam Hussein? Have you no compassion for these people?
I like that the Iraq people have a new chance now, the war was fight for othere reasons, though, as we all know.
There was is horrible threat with tons of WMDs to the citizens of America , if i recall it right. Ridiculous, Rumbsfeld is already begging for the help of evil iraq scienetists to present anything to the world :D
Regards Blitz
It's an Aggression War, a stupid, unjust, bloody Aggression War.
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If I didn't know better I'd think that you were being sarcastic Blitz. I'm glad to see you've finally come around and now see the threat Saddam was, both to his own people and the rest of the world.
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My how your bs migrates from one thing to another.
You see, the problem with "WMD" isn't that there are tons of them... its what one of them can do. And how a government would allow even one of them to be used.
MiniD
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Ah Blitz, now that you've edited your post I can tell that you were in fact attempting sarcasm. I'll just take it then that while you claim to be concerned for the welfare of the Iraqi people the truth is you really don't give a **** about them.
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Originally posted by AKIron
If I didn't know better I'd think that you were being sarcastic Blitz. I'm glad to see you've finally come around and now see the threat Saddam was, both to his own people and the rest of the world.
Nee, Kleener, so nich! :D
Regards Blitz
btw Most i liked Bushs call for members of the Iraq government.
"Dead or Alive" That's nothing less than lynchjustice.
A policemen would have called for a trial, these guys are headhunters for money at best.
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Originally posted by AKIron
Ah Blitz, now that you've edited your post I can tell that you were in fact attempting sarcasm. I'll just take it then that while you claim to be concerned for the welfare of the Iraqi people the truth is you really don't give a **** about them.
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Originally posted by blitz
Nee, Kleener, so nich! :D
Regards Blitz
btw Most i liked Bushs call for members of the Iraq government.
"Dead or Alive" That's nothing less than lynchjustice.
A policemen would have called for a trial, these guys are headhunters for money at best.
Hell yeah. If they come in dead, we save the cash a trial would cost. That way we'll have more money to burn from the oil we're stealing.
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Originally posted by blitz
It's the unbelievebale aggressiveness of american foreign policy seen in the last 12 month that makes this war unique for me.
1. American government had absolutely no right to invade Iraq.
2. These guys in the White House are dangerous and overbearing. It's a shame these unresponsible cowboys dare to speak about morality.
3. 's the difference between political culture and Evil Power Play.
4. You'll never understand that nuke.
5.Regards Blitz
This War is an Aggression war, stupid, violent and unjust.
Great stuff here, had to trim it down to my favorites Blitz
First , let's take a logical look at your statements with a cool head.
1.The UN authorized force to remove Iraq from Kuwait. Iraq agreed to cease-fire, then broke cease-fire agreements , thus we have the right to enforce the original cease-fire agreement. On top of that basic fact, we waited 12 years and passed many more UN resolutions to try to get Iraq to comply with it's obligations under the original cease-fire agreements. Finnally, one "last chance" given to Iraq with 1441. Iraq did not comply. Conclusion: we have every right to attack Iraq and I will bet you couldn't find a lawyer that could sucessfully argue that fact to the contrary.
2. They guys in the White house wouldn't even has us over there if Iraq had not invaded Kuwait in the first place. The "irresponsible cowboys" are Iraq's leaders as well as the people who attacked us on 9/11.
3. The political culture of Iraq,terrorists states and terorrist suppoerters are the reason America is activly looking to rout those rats out where they hide. It's a new game after 911 and America didn't start this fight.
4. I'll never understand people who overlook the fact that terrorists have declared war on the US and states that sponser and support terrorists are the one's who began this fight.
5. regards
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Nuke.. you should start a new thread... 'is Blitz the Iraqi info Minister?'
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Nuke.. you should start a new thread... 'is Blitz the Iraqi info Minister?'
Nah...instead I'll start on another beer :)
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Puke - imagine you are negociating a business deal with a supplier of your company. If you claimed they were being the devil's advocate, would they be offended? Probably not. If you claimed they were two faced, would they be offended? I think almost definitely.
Dowding, come off it. I'm not arguing in a business atmosphere trying to gain business or income. I'm calling some on here as being "two-faced'...yes, "two-faced." It is not vulgar and quite clearly describes how I see the situation. And I'll call you "pedantic." You tend to pull the stupidist things out of a post to argue on.
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Puke - it's this simple. To call someone two-faced is insulting. To say they are playing the devil's advocate is not. That was the point I was making with my example.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Puke - it's this simple. To call someone two-faced is insulting. To say they are playing the devil's advocate is not. That was the point I was making with my example.
to state that "some on these boards are two faced" is yet another matter Dowding..... nobody was specified directly.
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In a thread about Blitz?
Come off it. Now you are stretching credulity into inanity. And besides that, my point still stands.
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Originally posted by Dowding
In a thread about Blitz?
Come off it. Now you are stretching credulity into inanity. And besides that, my point still stands.
I guess you never saw a thread that referenced anything other than the contents of the first post of the thread.
Refering to "some" on "these boards" is a pretty broad expanse.
Dowding, I feel that some on these boards are two faced as well. Who am I refering to? Go cry a river to Skuzzy and tell him who I am directing my "personal attacks" against.
Are you attacking me personally when you state that I am " stretching credulity into insanity" when I am simply stating my opinion? You must be saying that my opinion equates to insanity. I am offended and shall cry to Skuzzy!
You are funny! (oops, was that a personal attack too?)
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Oh no. Not again. Strong...sense...of...deja-vu...
Look up inanity. It is NOT the same as 'insanity'. I've already explained this to you.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Oh no. Not again. Strong...sense...of...deja-vu...
Look up inanity. It is NOT the same as 'insanity'. I've already explained this to you.
I know the difference....I missread it...again.
My argument works with either word though and you cannot tell me who I am attacking when I say I feel some on these boards are two faced.
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Okay, Dowding. I cave. Everyone on here is un-biased and fair to the maximum.
Or are you now going to argue the semantics of "everyone" or "maximum"?