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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Martlet on April 14, 2003, 10:36:10 AM
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I did some work for Ubi, and they owe me a few free games.
I hear people talking about IL2 FB, is it worth adding to my list?
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Yes
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It was made in Russia by a Russian team. Are you sure you want to support Russians, who are all anti-american and support the bloody dictator?
:D :D :D
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Originally posted by Boroda
It was made in Russia by a Russian team. Are you sure you want to support Russians, who are all anti-american and support the bloody dictator?
:D :D :D
Most of the Russian's I know aren't anti-american at all. I don't label an entire country by your idiocy.
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Martlet> It's the most immersive sim I have played for years, it looks gorgeous and the planes feel..well I dunno they just feel 'right' I've not felt this way about a boxed sim since DI's Tornado sim many years ago. I would recommend it without hesitation.
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I'd recommend you get it. It's the only product I know in which there is after market support by the developer for atleast 8 months(based on Il2's support) following the product's release where patches are released that include new planes (either making current non-flyable planes flyable with full cockpit work, ordnance loadouts and "as accurate as possible" FMs/DMs or adding totally new planes as flyable) and a long list of bug fixes/tweaks. I also read recently that Oleg is working on stand alone server support, and will release the server side software once he's satisfied with it.
I don't know if it will be MMP (64+ players) or if it will simply be dedicated servers for the current 32 players.
-SW
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It's definitely worthwhile, especially if you are into VVS or LW planes. You will be disappointed if your are a P-47 fan though. Oleg has no luv for the jug. Think WB's P-47 crap performance. It looks nice though. :D
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The 190 also has performance reminiscient of the early WB 190s... something changed dramatically since Il2 in that respect.
First patch will come out at the end of April/beginning of May with promises of FM tweaks, and will hopefully fix these two planes up.
-SW
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Definitely worth a try.
New additions are complex engine management and refined FM and DM. Other things to mention: rear view mirrors, bullet path and penetration display option, unlimited paint schemes options, exotic planes like Mistel, Gladiator on the way.
A patch is expected soon, some minor fixes to be done.
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good sim
prepare to die .... ALOT :)
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It was made in Russia by a Russian team. Are you sure you want to support Russians, who are all anti-american and support the bloody dictator?
hmm.. good point.
except I think the only anti-american russian is boroda ! :)
run outta wine yet?
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quick pointers:
turn off the Russian and German voices/blabbing.. useless and irritating
make sure to have a real computer to run it on
get good with mouse views :)
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Modern Air Combat or lockon what ever its called..forgot now..lol
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The speed by which the pilot changes view can seem very slow compared to AH, but this can be changed by going into the conf.ini and under [HookView Config] you change the "Speed" value to around 13-15. You can set it even higher if you are more used to instant views from AH, but I like to just get the feeling that the pilot is taking a splitsecond to turn his head.
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Originally posted by Boroda
It was made in Russia by a Russian team. Are you sure you want to support Russians, who are all anti-american and support the bloody dictator?
:D :D :D
that's why the Russian planes in Il2 are overmodelled.;)
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Its good, very good. Get it.
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Originally posted by udet
that's why the Russian planes in Il2 are overmodelled.;)
I love the game, but I have to agree here. I shot an la5 yesterday. (3) 30mm shots to the right wing. He ended up turning behind me and shot me down. Granted I got to fast and kind of messed up, but come on 3 30mm shells to the same wing? All at about 100m range or less. I really love this game now that they fixed the 109 FM so it can BnZ like it should. 190's still a pig, but it may be that i haven't figured out how to work the prop pitch and stuff right. I've seen one dude do awesome stuff in the a5.
It's got a few little things that bother me, but over all it's the best boxed sim I've ever owned. The graphics are simply mind blowing...
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All I saw in the dogfight rooms were yaks and hurri's. Guess they turn the best, but I have only about 3 hours total in the game.
I say yes, get it, you will enjoy it.
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I think it is a great game offline, have yet to try it online though! Looking forward to it.
Ohh, and Boroda, hope you choke on some Borsch ya commie pig....
:p
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Another thing is that it has excellent TrackIR support. 2nd generation, TrackIR enhanced, that is. No more mouse emulation, mouse is now independent of TrackIR, while the latter is used soleley for view control. IMO, it is superior to both snap and padlock views.
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I found FB totally unrealistic in battles..
I have all realism set to max, but the enemy often stays in slow turns while I'm 100 meters behind them, just waiting for me to blow them out of the sky.
If that's AI they sure aint very smart. The forgotten battles are at least 50% easyer than online battles in AH. Also the hyperlobby seems to have a very low quality online players, no real fights there. I've died only from vulches so far.
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Has anyone else noticed that the FM has been dumbed down?
No torque in takeoffs, for example.
Try this, any plane: Go full throttle and let go of the rudder... yep, it stays centered on the runway all the time.
Hope they fix it.
Daniel
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Bad points, IMO:
Some bugs with certain planes, causing max performance at less than 110% with auto pitch control on (German planes). Will be fixed in a patch.
Ground control and modelling somewhat strange.
Somewhat optimistic control response at low speeds for all planes.
No dedicated servers and quality online play. Maybe that's why it is called an offline sim, hmmm.
Game gets slow online, offline it runs smooth (800 MHz Duron here, details all maxed).
Good points:
Many flyable planes and versions, some modeled for very first time in a sim.
Very good DM, FM and graphics. German, Russian, Finnish, Russian, US voices, British otw, adds a lot to immersion.
Incredible attention to detail, even at the cost of gameplay.
User developed skins, but also planes.
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is there a story line? missions? Is it like most other offline games?
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Yes, dynamic campaign, following historical battles.
Frankly, I never bothered with it - I enjoy QMB (quick mission builder), trying out all possible plane matchups. You can define types, numbers, AI skill, initial advantage, skins for individual planes, loadouts etc.
There's also complex mission editor.
You can get a taste of the sim from the official board:
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/overview.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd
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Originally posted by LLv34_Snefens
The speed by which the pilot changes view can seem very slow compared to AH, but this can be changed by going into the conf.ini and under [HookView Config] you change the "Speed" value to around 13-15. You can set it even higher if you are more used to instant views from AH, but I like to just get the feeling that the pilot is taking a splitsecond to turn his head.
thanks for this tip - makes a big difference
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that's awesome..any other 'tweaks' you'd like to share ?
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FB is a very good sim, however it needs a huge patch. ASAP.
The enemy AI behave like Superman, Spiderman and Dare Devil all togheter. Your wingmen behave just the opposite.
The FM needs tons of tweaks and fine tuning. Same thing for the CEM.
The AI controlled planes, due to limited average CPU power, have a simplified FM. Now you understand why you cannot catch up with your wing leader or sometimes you see AI planes maneuvering like rockets.
Oleg Maddox did a good job but the job is unfinished. It is UBI Soft fault, obviously. Not enuff time to debug the sim, not enuff bucks to finance the developer team.
Theres nothing like flying online with excellent sims like AH or Warbirds, with very good flight models and real human intelligence (well, Rooks and Bishops apart ;) :))
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lol
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Originally posted by Sancho
You will be disappointed if your are a P-47 fan though. Oleg has no luv for the jug.
What's luv got to do with it ?
Seriously, FB seems to be harboring some serious Ameri-whiners as of late !
;)
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People speak about FB and those same old boring P47s & FW190s?! Who cares? :p
Finally simmers can fly Brewster! :D
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I don't label an entire country by your idiocy
hh, and Boroda, hope you choke on some Borsch ya commie pig....
hehehehe
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LOL missed that earlier, thanks :D