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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SaburoS on April 14, 2003, 12:45:42 PM
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This isn't for everyone, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out who you are.
Why is it when someone dessents to an opinion that is counter to yours, you tend label them as anti-American? Notice that they actually haven't said they were anti-America. They haven't posted that they were anti-American people.
Yet the hate I see posting against other countries are acceptable to you? You can taunt whole peoples (like the French for example) because you disagree with their leader's policies? Just doesn't make sense to me that one gets bent out of shape because they perceive a dissenting opinion as hateful (it's not), but then will spew out real hateful remarks in response? I see too much of attacking the messenger and not enough of arguing the relative points. Bullying others with silly labels and threats is not the way adults should argue.
Do you really care about this sim? Do you care for its success? I do. It is becoming clear that if we keep bashing whole peoples, that we may lose their business. You'll note that an awesome individual and player (frenchy) left. I wonder if he just got tired of his heritage being attacked all the time.
This sim (as any game) is supposed to be fun. When the game ceases to be fun, people leave (yes, they take their money with them).
I have been to France and England (albeit it was just for a couple of too short weeks). You know what? I found the French people and the British people to be jusy like the people I know at home here in America. They were awesome and friendly. The French people when they knew I couldn't speak french, would try to help me in english. My wife and I had a memorial time which we'll remember for the rest of our lives. We hope to go back some day too.
Businesses need to show profits and grow to really make it. Bashing whole other peoples based on country of origin isn't helping the cause.
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For those of you that think it's funny that an innocent civillian protestor gets killed while doing just that (nonviolent protesting), are sick. It's their fault that the soldier took aim and pulled the trigger? 200 yards (give or take) away? How would you feel if that was your son, daughter, mother, etc that gets killed like that? Good thing they probably won't ever view this BBS. In any book, you've got to understand that's not the decent thing to do. To mock another's death as if they somehow "deserved" it. Sad, really.
For those of you that get it, thanks.
For those of you that don't, by all means just continue flaming away. Just don't be surprised if this membership starts to shrink (along with the money and profits).
Best regards,
SaburoS
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In agreement my friend.
The lose of someones life is no joke!
And is to be mourned not made fun od.
I have beed guilty of jumping on the beat up France band wagon .
And for that I maust say sorry to the people of France.
But to the French Gov I still think you're weenies.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Why is it when someone dessents to an opinion that is counter to yours, you tend label them as anti-American?
How about you let us know what the criteria are for anti-Americanism so we won't make this mistake in the future? Apparently saying that stupid fat dumb Americans just want to attack harmless Iraq in order to spread the American Empire and make Big Oil rich doesn't qualify.
ra
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This is a stupid game BBS. If YOU EVER take anything away from these boards and put ANY VALUE WHAT-SO-EVER in the gibberish posted here, then you my pot bellied little fellow, are a sad man indeed.
:cool:
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I call them as i see them...
There are many here..Blitz weazel and a few more complete idiots..
I actually read about 2 sentences saburo ..and skipped the rest..
France sucks bad ass--Germany and russia can all take a flying leap into dismal economy for all i care..
THEY ARE ANTI AMERICAN...
Ya ya..i know not all the citizens..are..same as USA..we got quit a few idiots -anti americans who hide behind our flag...
fuk them
I would stab all of themn in the neck if given a legal chance..
Die Scum...Die
Love
BiGB
xoxo
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hehe
ya think something posted here makes or breaks an AH customer?
LOL ... that's funny
here is old woman gossip for men- online, in our virtual planes we are truely fighter pilots bounded together by a common cause - not to have to hit enter 3x followed by an Oh :)
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Thank you SaburoS
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o yaa..and I hate Saburo..h ebeat me in the simladder..i hate him realll good now...
Hes a cheater or hack or somthen...maybe it was my 56k connect..
REMATCH!~!!!!!
hehehe
salute..Saburo isnt to bad of a stick...um ..i was sick that ..day...
and my ..somthn was messed up..
Love
BiGB
P.S. How much to rent a bulldozer by the hour?
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I hate this thread :mad:
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Just like a MAW....excuses, excuses...blah, blah, blah...I was sick...
:D
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If someone wants to be against the Iraq conflict, then more power to them. If that someone wants to refer to America as a bunch of fat war mongering rednecks, then... well... I think you get the point.
I mean... its not like there are people on both sides of the fence just posting inflamatory comments to bask in the reaction.
MiniD
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Originally posted by AWMac
Just like a MAW....excuses, excuses...blah, blah, blah...I was sick...
:D
Soon to be followed by the time honored MAW tradition of Childish name called....
Schmuck!:D
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LOL :D
BGB
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lolol..
MAc...i only have 1 eye and 2 fingers..and i still manage to beat u down in my c-47 vs your uber Spit...
hehehehe
Quote by Dlamb
"if you want some easy kills ...just find this guy named Mac"
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lolol:p
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1 eye and 2 fingers?
WTF happened?
Tragic Masturbation Accident?
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LMAO!!!!!! Need to clean my screen now LOLOLOL
:D
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Was it the explosion during gerbil retrieval?
:eek:
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Armageddon!!!
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Originally posted by Yeager
This is a stupid game BBS. If YOU EVER take anything away from these boards and put ANY VALUE WHAT-SO-EVER in the gibberish posted here, then you my pot bellied little fellow, are a sad man indeed.
:cool:
Dunno, I got a pretty good marinade out of the deal;)
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LOL Thread check. Marinade is aisle #6.
:D
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Opps... never mind, just reread the post.... makes sence now.
:D
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Let me see:
I disagree with the iraq war because of some good reason.
Thats cool!
But:
I hate the war because its a bunch of american imperialist oil cowboys going to murder 100,000 innocent iraqi babies and blow milk plants for profit and I think bush is hitler and a terrorist and just as bad or worse than saddam. Or any combination or extension of the above.
Then go copulate urself you america hhating communist degenerate..
OK?
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Good post, SaburoS.
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Originally posted by rc51
In agreement my friend.
The lose of someones life is no joke!
And is to be mourned not made fun od.
I have beed guilty of jumping on the beat up France band wagon .
And for that I maust say sorry to the people of France.
But to the French Gov I still think you're weenies.
Well polls indicate 33% of france wants us to lose the war.
IMO that means a third of france is our enemies. Along with thier government.
Thats just my take. Germany and russia also said they dont have our back. They dont seem like friends anymore either.
A friend of mine once got into a fight. It was stupid.
Still, I got my bellybutton whipped too. Cause I had his back.
Thats what friends do.
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He's right, you know.
I love the American eccentricities and the simple way of perceiving things. Like the close to ground 'this is how it is, and this is how we'll deal with it' followed by action. To me, there's something inherently delightful to seeing someone talk the talk and walk the walk.
On the other hand, there are side effects. A great many people here express their gut feelings without bothering to sort them through the filter of rational thinking. Some are incapable of seeign factual comments as they are - instead their judgment is clouded by the anger that comes from a perceived slight or attack.
Dig in, draw yer guns and get ready to fight, no matter what, is admirable in many situations. However, in factual debate it is better to be cold and without feelings and just objectively deal with the facts.
It is passion speaking however. The French are known as a passionate people; they even call themselves culturally advanced and sophisticated. Americans are no less passionate; the mechanisms with which they express their passion is slightly different, but no better or worse.
Yet for people who lack this passion or are emotionally restrained/conditioned, a more objective, rational approach to subjects is preferrable. Or so I personally believe.
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What??
Do my eyes decieve me??
Is this another appeal for PC discussion in the O'Club?
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HORSEPUCKY ALERT!
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Here's the deal.. if you constantly haul up arguments to point out how we are the worlds true source of evil, and you trot out the tired old arguments to make your point like vietnam, you supported saddam, your just making war for oil, you really don't give a damn about suffering civilians casualties, your administration is corrupt, your military makes war on babies, etc etc etc..
then yer anti-american, you get tagged as one, hunted as one, insulted as one and it makes no gawdamned diffrence where you shiit.. canada, el monte, terra haute, des moines, paris, rome, madrid, london.. don't give a damn where yer from. once you get on my A list as a card carrying anti-american, yer gonna be the guest of honor in my BBQ pit for as long as the 50 lb sack of Kingsford match light holds out.
New gameplan world.. we're stunninghunkss. the bigest nastiest, most horrible manifiestations off gaping poop chutes you'll ever see or smell. and we're gonna kick bellybutton and take hyphenated names till the world figures out the new gameplan.. which is, don't fu*k with us, don't fu*k with our allies and don't even THINK about invading yer neigbiors, don't slaughter yer minorties and don't ferchrisakes EVER tell us we're stunninghunks, because despite all evidence to the contrary, we'll deny it while we prove it in the megatonne range.
Frankly, i've never witnessed an occasion where someone calls somebody else an stunninghunks where the party of the second part didn't immediately embark on a loud mission to prove the party of the first part exceedingly correct.
for simplicitys sake, lets call 'em stunninghunks contests.
i prefer to have my stunninghunks win.
note: I'm proud to be an american stunninghunks.
so, you wanna piece of this???
Now, on to the cause of this most annoying rash of assholitus..
data point: Iraq needed a regime change.
we did it, the world hates us for it, and its my contribution to the mission to remind the folks that we did the right thing while they sat on thier hands or actively tried to prevent that murdering sonofabeytch's removal from power.
I don't think anyone wanted a war.. but it's important to understand in america it's quite allright to dislike war, and yet recognize that in the course of human affairs, wars are going to be fought, so we might just as well be damn sure we get to pick the key players and the terrian. And be damn good at it in the process.
We seem to be doing allright.
the resta you stunninghunks, find cover or change sides.
Quick.
there's not much room for 'neutrals' when the biggest stunninghunks on the planet roll their sleeves up and starts choosing up teams.
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Saburo, good post
Every war comes with an increasing of nationalistic feelings that can be seen as a good thing till it maintains in a reasonable limit.
Sometimes on this BBS this limit has exceded; maybe with the end of this war (hoping so) we can fade out to normality??
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Originally posted by Hangtime
What??
Do my eyes decieve me??
I don't think anyone wanted a war.. but it's important to understand in america it's quite allright to dislike war, and yet recognize that in the course of human affairs, wars are going to be fought, so we might just as well be damn sure we get to pick the key players and the terrian. And be damn good at it in the process.
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Damn, and i thought this war was about Saddams huge WMD ressources and the eminent threat these WMDs were for american citizens.as Colin Powell told his Security Council Show :D
Regards Blitz
It's an Aggression War, a stupid, unjust, bloody Aggression War
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i was drunk.
;)
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lol!
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His cat typed that.
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Maybe his cat's name is George??;)
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Look, i'd be the first guy on the block to buy blitz a beer.. and i'd prolly not be too far back in line when it came time to clock him upside the head with the empty.
yes.. as a venue for the exchange of ideas the o'club can turn into an ugly place... the world is also an ugly place.
i can sit back here on occasion and get plastered and can crank out the emotional word pictures to beat the band. it don't make me a better person than blitz.. just means i'm drunker, or more sober, or am making decisions keyed off of diffrent facts.
it all amounts to opinion.
opinions are like stunninghunks. some smell better than others.
right now, my stinky stunninghunk opinion is that america did the right thing. and i'm being just as much of an stunninghunk about it as i think i can.. under the current terms of venue.
i've had my mind changed a number of times here by a clear presentation of facts that challenge my opinion.. the o'club has certainly it's fair share of debaters that base their opinions on clear concise data with footnotes, links, historical perspective, and rational logic.
but, when i see blitz argue 'amirica is threatend in no way....' after Toad calmly kicks every leg his arguments have out from under him and he still spouts the same convex wrap yer twisted mind around this next slippery non-fact, i get this incredible urge to reverse the tallneck in my hands and get buzy with it.
wallah.. stunninghunk contest.
*sigh*
I'm saving my empties. I migh need 'em. waste not, want not, yah know....
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Look, i'd be the first guy on the block to buy blitz a beer.. and i'd prolly not be too far back in line when it came time to clock him upside the head with the empty.
yes.. as a venue for the exchange of ideas the o'club can turn into an ugly place... the world is also an ugly place.
i can sit back here on occasion and get plastered and can crank out the emotional word pictures to beat the band. it don't make me a better person than blitz.. just means i'm drunker, or more sober, or am making decisions keyed off of diffrent facts.
it all amounts to opinion.
opinions are like stunninghunks. some smell better than others.
right now, my stinky stunninghunk opinion is that america did the right thing. and i'm being just as much of an stunninghunk about it as i think i can.. under the current terms of venue.
i've had my mind changed a number of times here by a clear presentation of facts that challenge my opinion.. the o'club has certainly it's fair share of debaters that base their opinions on clear concise data with footnotes, links, historical perspective, and rational logic.
but, when i see blitz argue 'amirica is threatend in no way....' after Toad calmly kicks every leg his arguments have out from under him and he still spouts the same convex wrap yer twisted mind around this next slippery non-fact, i get this incredible urge to reverse the tallneck in my hands and get buzy with it.
wallah.. stunninghunk contest.
*sigh*
I'm saving my empties. I migh need 'em. waste not, want not, yah know....
Exactly.
Some people present very good arguments to oppose this war. I even agree with some of their points.
Some people ARE just anti american, though, no matter how much they try to deny it.
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Hangtime wrote:
Here's the deal.. if you constantly haul up arguments to point out how we are the worlds true source of evil, and you trot out the tired old arguments to make your point like vietnam, you supported saddam, your just making war for oil, you really don't give a damn about suffering civilians casualties, your administration is corrupt, your military makes war on babies, etc etc etc..
Hangtime, old pal, are ya telling me I have been anti-American again? Sheet, pass the doobie bud, gotta be some good stuff yer smoking.
I'm so close up yer Yankee butts I can smell what ya had fer breakfast yesterday.
So, what I am asking for is some kinda recognition that perhaps there are more to Europeans than just French and Germans. That perhaps, maybe, possibly, the world ain't black and white. And that, maybe, being cold blooded and thinking things through is a better approach than purposedly miscontruing statements so it looks as if everyone else is out to get ya as soon as they disagree just the slightest.
Nah, I ain't gonna kiss yer fat larded arse no more Hangtime :D. Go bully someone; if my services ain't appreciated; well, there are loads of people in the world who love people with dexterious tongues.
PFFFFFFFTH
:D
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Originally posted by AWMac
Opps... never mind, just reread the post.... makes sence now.
:D
Oh yeah, I actually learned how they work so I can create one of my own. (sorry for the hijack)
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LOL Santa!
You suck, yer canned ham sucks, and yer women... well, i'm just jealous.
Lemme know when you get over here.. we got some fresh phillipine gouda and mexican wine to sample.
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Yes, i am owned by two cats.
they are the bane of my existence, and are constant reminders of the fact that humans are of no use to this planet beyond opening cans and renewing the cat litter.
today, iraq; tomorrow, the cats.
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ahh.. you came aboard after the 'hairball saga'.
Hairball was one of those one in a million felines that had more angst wrapped up in one dirty look than all the gestalt packed into the mindless meows of blitz.
I miss Hairball terribly.. the two morons that populate this dump in her place don't even seem to be the same species.
Hairball.. hope yer still kickin bellybutton in cat heaven.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
ahh.. you came aboard after the 'hairball saga'.
The absolute funniest thing I've ever read on the internet. Painfully funny. Brought wife to the computer funny. Sent links to freinds funny. Printed out a copy and took it to work and busted a gut just reading it over their shoulder funny.
OK, I was drunk first time I read it. So what. It was funny.
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Good post, SaburoS...
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sadly.. the original hairball sagas are lost. i'm pretty sure they predate the current AH bbs search/archive function, and the hard drive i wrote them on passed away not too long after hairball made her last landing.
damn, but that was one hell of a cat.
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LOL I remember that saga, and what the coke did to my monitor. Laughed so hard my stomach hurt :D.
hang, am in for the greencard lottery thingy since it's close to impossible to get a sponsored hi-tech visa with the econom being what it is. Failing that I'll come over on vacation next summer unless a cat drops a monitor on my head :D
Sounds like you got a good taste in food and wine. It'll be fun to find out just how good :)
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Originally posted by StSanta
LOL I remember that saga, and what the coke did to my monitor. Laughed so hard my stomach hurt :D.
hang, am in for the greencard lottery thingy since it's close to impossible to get a sponsored hi-tech visa with the econom being what it is. Failing that I'll come over on vacation next summer unless a cat drops a monitor on my head :D
Sounds like you got a good taste in food and wine. It'll be fun to find out just how good :)
sneak yer arsse over here and we will get ya a card ;->
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X2Lee; good idea! I think I shall use my Middle Eastern Descent disguise - that'd fool those pesky immigration police people! :D
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Hangtime salute....
I thougth for soemreason you rwere like blitz..i must of been as high as a jiraffes radish
BUT YOU POSTED DAM WELL IN THIS TRHEAD
stupid caps loKs
anyways..let me says this...
"i get this incredible urge to reverse the tallneck in my hands and get buzy with it."....
Love that..:D
SAME WAY I FEEL....Golly-geeit...
Please..tell me what "Blitz " flies under....Does he evevn fly? Let me guess..He boycotts this game becuse the SUV(panzers) use too much virtual gas....
He wants a Yugo with a Sling shot that throws pachulli oil soaked Luffa sponges at people....
"save the wales.....kill the seals"
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Originally posted by StSanta
X2Lee; good idea! I think I shall use my Middle Eastern Descent disguise - that'd fool those pesky immigration police people! :D
Thats the easiest way in the country!
Just dont park your aircraft in any of our skyscrapers. We frown on that.
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Blitz has been playing this game a lot longer than you BGBMAW and he still does. I've always found him to be friendly and helpful.
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thx..yes i dont think i have ever seen him in MA ..but..i could care less how long anyone plays...when you cheer amercian deaths..im otw to cap ur prettythang$:D
hey..im helpful too...when someones says "how do i put tail hook down?" I say..hit enter a bunch of times..it hand cranks your hook down..
See...i help...
o yaa,,then i say..READ THE FRIKN HELP FILES ...I did...and hell..it WORKS!!!!
Love
BiGB
xoxo
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Look, i'd be the first guy on the block to buy blitz a beer.. and i'd prolly not be too far back in line when it came time to clock him upside the head with the empty.
yes.. as a venue for the exchange of ideas the o'club can turn into an ugly place... the world is also an ugly place.
i can sit back here on occasion and get plastered and can crank out the emotional word pictures to beat the band. it don't make me a better person than blitz.. just means i'm drunker, or more sober, or am making decisions keyed off of diffrent facts.
it all amounts to opinion.
opinions are like stunninghunks. some smell better than others.
right now, my stinky stunninghunk opinion is that america did the right thing. and i'm being just as much of an stunninghunk about it as i think i can.. under the current terms of venue.
i've had my mind changed a number of times here by a clear presentation of facts that challenge my opinion.. the o'club has certainly it's fair share of debaters that base their opinions on clear concise data with footnotes, links, historical perspective, and rational logic.
but, when i see blitz argue 'amirica is threatend in no way....' after Toad calmly kicks every leg his arguments have out from under him and he still spouts the same convex wrap yer twisted mind around this next slippery non-fact, i get this incredible urge to reverse the tallneck in my hands and get buzy with it.
wallah.. stunninghunk contest.
*sigh*
I'm saving my empties. I migh need 'em. waste not, want not, yah know....
And now, as there was no WMD attack on US military and nothing has been found yet lets talk about the real plan behind the stategy.
I strongly believe Bush had knowledge long before the war that Iraq had no WMDs and that his talking of WMDs was only propaganda to distrakt from his real goal: To liberate the people of Iraq. WTG, WTG, WTG G.W.Bush Thank you so much :D
Regards Blitz
America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain rediculous .
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Originally posted by GScholz
He flys under (surprise) "Blitz". Haven't seen him in the MA, but I've flown with him in SEA.
Only waiting till this war is over then i'm back in my trusty P 51 :)
Regards Blitz
If Busch goes to another Aggression War with Syria or Iran i set my P51 on fire, i swear :D
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Blitz the next country we slap like a 2 dollar Ho will be soon..We have soem dirtburglars to clean up...and ill be glad to pay taxes for that...
and btw...
Dont set ur p51 on fire....
Set your self on fire for protesting..I think it would be a much stronger statemnet...
And i thought Your Jihad guys said you would have all those virgins right??
Blitz..I guess the portable Bio labs they are showing are for making playdo??
LMFAo.....
HAIL KING BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Salute Our Troops...THEY ARE FUKING BAD ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
I love them..and our Generals have doen a wonderful job.. Did you guys see what just happend in IRAQ?? They were known as the biggest military in the Middle east??
Love BiGB
P.S. Blitz..i think i have an oil leak on my Bulldozer..can u get stick your head down there and take a look'? thx:p
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Originally posted by BGBMAW
Blitz the next country we slap like a 2 dollar Ho will be soon..We have soem dirtburglars to clean up...and ill be glad to pay taxes for that...
and btw...
Dont set ur p51 on fire....
Set your self on fire for protesting..I think it would be a much stronger statemnet...
Nah, nah, life is too valuable. God allows nobody to take it away. Everybody who does goes to hell.
I guess, i'll stick with my idea of setting the Pony on fire :D
Regards Blitz
America was threatened by Iraq in no way, it was just plain rediculous .
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missed this earlier..
Subaru (sp) good post !
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Good post SaburoS. Very much like one I was contemplating.
I have become quite disgusted by the demonization of people because they hold a different opinion on a subject none of us have any control over.
The blantant smears and outrageous lies that get purported to be the truth show the most dishonest and shallowest of character. We can disagree and still be civil. There is no reason, absolutely no reason, to demonize other people.
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whelp... here's the deal, liberal rutabagas...
this here's the o'cub. you can spit on the mat and call the cat a bastard.
the indignant chest thumping, finger pointing, name calling and demonization of the denizens of east cupcake belongs here.
not the MA.
keep yer eye on yer wingie, shoot the red planes. go ahead and disabuse kurt tank, al gore and the LW on channel 1 while yah look for the red planes.. but stay off the personal attacks while yah fly the sim.
once more for the slow pilots.. in the arenas we treat each other with respect. unless he's flyin a 190, then yah can call him a girlie luftweener. but if yah feel the urge to get indignant, get in here. don't do it in there.
please.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
This isn't for everyone, but I'll leave it up to you to figure out who you are.
Why is it when someone dessents to an opinion that is counter to yours, you tend label them as anti-American? Notice that they actually haven't said they were anti-America. They haven't posted that they were anti-American people.
SaburoS
hmmmmmmm, I see that BORODA always get flamed everytime he says something that is not even anti-american in this BBS and I never saw any positive or encouraging feedbacks on his opinions. What's funny is that someone asked him if he ever stand on the bread line during the Soviet times.
By the way, good post SaburoS with 64 kills:)
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Hang has actually put his bellybutton on the line for the abstract principles they call for in USA's brash 1776 document.
Mostly he looked out for his buds, though I suspect.
Hangtime has also frequented Asian brothels and owns cats.
He fought for the right of his cats to walk over his keyboard.
They won.
Hangtime
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Hang wrote:
keep yer eye on yer wingie, shoot the red planes. go ahead and disabuse kurt tank, al gore and the LW on channel 1 while yah look for the red planes.. but stay off the personal attacks while yah fly the sim.
You are very nasty and I don't wanna be friends with you no more.
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WTG, WTG, WTG G.W.Bush Thank you so much
You're welcome,
and now, on to the next state that harbors terrorism and supports terrorists!