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Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: udet on April 15, 2003, 10:53:54 AM

Blackburn Firebrand
Span 15.63 m; length; 11.81 m; height 4.04 m;

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Furball on April 15, 2003, 11:19:48 AM

(http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Firebrand_in_flight_Colour.jpg)

looks similar to Tempest II

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: MiloMorai on April 15, 2003, 11:21:24 AM

Boeing XF8B-1

ws - 16.46m
l - 13.18m
h -  4.95m
weight - 6436kg > 9302kg

flew Nov. 1944

The Bv155 was bigger(ws) and flew Sept. 1944.

ws - 20.50m
l - 12.00m
h -  3.00m
weight - 4870kg > 6015kg

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Furball on April 15, 2003, 11:24:38 AM

the firebrand entered service though

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: frank3 on April 15, 2003, 11:33:37 AM

Dang!!! that buff actually is a fighter?? and I thought the jug was heavy! :eek:

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Furball on April 15, 2003, 11:54:57 AM

(http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/4082/int_air/bv155bi.jpg)

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: udet on April 15, 2003, 12:42:49 PM

(http://oldwolf.myrice.com/ukaircraft/images/firebrand-04.jpg)

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: udet on April 15, 2003, 12:46:13 PM

Tempest MkV has a height of 4.9m(16ft 1in). I think it is the 'tallest', excpet for the Boeing XF8...that thing is HUGE!

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: aircav on April 15, 2003, 04:36:09 PM

Well, I suppose you might call the Firebrand a fighter, in the same way the Skyraider was a fighter. ;)

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: udet on April 15, 2003, 05:53:30 PM

A1 Skyraider  has never been called a fighter or intended to perform a fighter's job. Firebrand's designation was torpedo-fighter, but it came too late into the war. I don't know what it was used for in the post-war era.

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Tony Williams on April 15, 2003, 06:23:41 PM

To be precise, the Firebrand was designed as a fighter, but it turned out so big it was more useful with a torpedo hanging under it...

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Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Bullethead on April 15, 2003, 08:02:45 PM

I thought everybody knew the F-105 Thunderchief was the biggest, heaviest single-engine/single-seat fighter ever made:  length 64'3" for single-seat versions, GW up to 40,000 pounds, all pushed by a single P&W J75.  

OK, it's not a prop job, but it's the spiritual successor to the Jug :)  Thuds rule.

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: udet on April 15, 2003, 09:25:05 PM

yup...I think the thud stands taller than a B17, correct me if I'm wrong...

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: funkedup on April 15, 2003, 11:10:13 PM

Quote

Originally posted by Bullethead
I thought everybody knew the F-105 Thunderchief was the biggest, heaviest single-engine/single-seat fighter ever made:  length 64'3" for single-seat versions, GW up to 40,000 pounds, all pushed by a single P&W J75.  

OK, it's not a prop job, but it's the spiritual successor to the Jug :)  Thuds rule.

Actually some versions of the Thud got up to 55,000 lbs!
Someday I hope there's a sim where we can fly the F-105 for the mission it was designed for.  NOE supersonic nuclear strike against the Rooskies.

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Tony Williams on April 16, 2003, 01:28:45 AM

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Title: Re: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: TimRas on April 16, 2003, 02:12:40 AM

Quote

Originally posted by udet
Blackburn Firebrand
Span 15.63 m; length; 11.81 m; height 4.04 m;

Westland Wyvern:
Span: 13.42m
Height: 4.57m
Length:12.88m
TO weight: 11113kg

Firebrand is a lightweight in comparison

Title: Re: Re: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: AaronGT on April 16, 2003, 02:19:33 AM

Quote

Originally posted by TimRas
Westland Wyvern:
Span: 13.42m
Height: 4.57m
Length:12.88m
TO weight: 11113kg

Firebrand is a lightweight in comparison

3550hp engine in the Wyvern as originally plannned! That's
quite a beast!

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: MiloMorai on April 16, 2003, 06:34:53 AM

Just for the record, the F-105 was originally designed to deliver nuclear weapons, ie attack, with a2a capabilities as secondary.

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: AGJV44_Rot 1 on April 16, 2003, 10:46:03 AM

My father flew f-101's and wanted to stay in the usaf when the f-105's came out.  As he was getting out the 105's came in, that was the only plane he wanted to fly and he missed it.  I can be thankful considering he would have went to veitnam and giving their operational losses there would have been a good chance I wouldn't be here.  I love that bird.

Title: Biggest single engine-single seat prop fighter
Post by: Pongo on April 17, 2003, 12:47:43 AM

They did get brutalized in vietnam. 50% of the production run lost or something like that.