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Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Nifty on April 15, 2003, 05:16:25 PM: it'd be very spiffy if I could assign a rotary axis (or any axis) on my HOTAS to elevator and aileron trim controls in Aces High. I know this has been asked for in the past, but I recently was able to experience trim axes in IL-2: FB, and it was very nice.

maybe this is going to be a feature in AH II? :)
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Chairboy on April 15, 2003, 05:21:10 PM: Seconded! My Saitek X-45 has two knobs that are begging to be used for something good in AH.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: JB73 on April 15, 2003, 07:12:33 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Chairboy
Seconded! My Saitek X-45 has two knobs that are begging to be used for something good in AH.
my X45 allready does do trim

you have to split up the rotary into 3 bands then space them evenly....
make the middle do nothing and the outter 2 do "k" and "i" or something.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: fffreeze220 on April 15, 2003, 11:19:11 PM: what JB73 said.
Works fine
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Xjazz on April 16, 2003, 01:49:47 AM: Hi,

I think Nifty is speaking about true analog trim, like its work in IL2.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Urchin on April 16, 2003, 09:41:38 AM: Ditto... have mine set up the same way as JB73, except mine arent split evenly. I went like 40/20/40 with my bands.
Title: X45 question
Post by: rshubert on April 21, 2003, 09:52:56 AM: What OS are you using and what version of the saitek drivers? I can't even access my rotaries with XP, and would like to.

Thanks for any info.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Chairboy on April 21, 2003, 10:26:39 AM: Windows XP Pro, and I'm just using the OS drivers from Microsoft for it: 5.1.2600.1106.
Title: Re: X45 question
Post by: JB73 on April 21, 2003, 11:42:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by rshubert
What OS are you using and what version of the saitek drivers? I can't even access my rotaries with XP, and would like to.

Thanks for any info.
you need to have the updated drivers for XP.... ill let my CO JB42 know you looking .. he'll post here prolly (Im runnin 98se V1.02 x45 drivers)
Title: Re: X45 question
Post by: JB73 on April 21, 2003, 11:42:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by rshubert
What OS are you using and what version of the saitek drivers? I can't even access my rotaries with XP, and would like to.

Thanks for any info.
you need to have the updated drivers for XP.... ill let my CO JB42 know you looking .. he'll post here prolly (Im runnin 98se V1.02 x45 drivers)
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: rshubert on April 21, 2003, 01:39:41 PM: Thanks. I would really appreciate it.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: seabat on April 21, 2003, 02:12:08 PM: By the way, if your computer goes wacky one day, check to see if your x45 rotaries are in the middle band or not.

Wasted 3 hours one day trying to figure out what was sending signals to my computer.
Title: Re: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: AcId on April 21, 2003, 02:50:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nifty
it'd be very spiffy if I could assign a rotary axis (or any axis) on my HOTAS to elevator and aileron trim controls in Aces High. I know this has been asked for in the past, but I recently was able to experience trim axes in IL-2: FB, and it was very nice.

maybe this is going to be a feature in AH II? :)

This was brought up to HT a while back and he was pretty receptive but had some issues regarding autopilot in that turning it off would effectively put your plane back to the analog settings which could be way out of trim.

I have no idea what he ultimately decided.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: AWLysol on April 21, 2003, 03:16:04 PM: All you guys running Saitek...how did y'all ever get the silly thing calibrated?? I gave up on AH after about 2 months after years of FR Air Warrior cuz I couldn't get my stick to calibrate well enough that I could be competitive with everyone else. Fun value was almost non-existent.

In short, I got tired of gettin' dead every time I took the plane from the horizontal. :)

Also, mine is the USB/analog model. Does anyone else have this problem?
Setup and cal stick under Win2k, everything fine. Reboot machine at some point, have to unplug stick and reattach for Win2k to see it again.
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: JB73 on April 21, 2003, 05:50:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by AWLysol
All you guys running Saitek...how did y'all ever get the silly thing calibrated?? I gave up on AH after about 2 months after years of FR Air Warrior cuz I couldn't get my stick to calibrate well enough that I could be competitive with everyone else. Fun value was almost non-existent.

In short, I got tired of gettin' dead every time I took the plane from the horizontal. :)

Also, mine is the USB/analog model. Does anyone else have this problem?
Setup and cal stick under Win2k, everything fine. Reboot machine at some point, have to unplug stick and reattach for Win2k to see it again.
you also need the win 2K / XP drivers .. (they are both based on the same kernel)

that should fix it
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: hazed- on April 22, 2003, 03:16:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by AWLysol
All you guys running Saitek...how did y'all ever get the silly thing calibrated?? I gave up on AH after about 2 months after years of FR Air Warrior cuz I couldn't get my stick to calibrate well enough that I could be competitive with everyone else. Fun value was almost non-existent.

In short, I got tired of gettin' dead every time I took the plane from the horizontal. :)

Also, mine is the USB/analog model. Does anyone else have this problem?
Setup and cal stick under Win2k, everything fine. Reboot machine at some point, have to unplug stick and reattach for Win2k to see it again.

theres a programme i used to use to stop my computer having to re-recognise on each startup. was called joystart and was simple to use.I had anologue saitek too and it kept not recognising on each start.Once i put this little (few kb) file in it worked fine.

heres where you'll find the file:

http://www.lycos.co.uk/search/frame/searchframe.html?url=http%3A//home.att.net/%7Estickworks/swdownld.html&query=joystart&rs=1

hope it helps, heres the description of the file (Jstrt100.zip)

' JSTRT100.ZIP contains JoyStart.exe, a small utility that may help if you're having trouble with your joystick not being recognized after a Windows restart. It sends a command to the joystick system to have it recheck it's current configuration, that's often enough to get the stick to be recognized in many cases. UnZIP the file somewhere on your hardrive. It should produce the JoyStart.exe file and another file, JoyStart.doc, which you can read with WordPad. It talks about setting up the JoyStart program and getting it to run automatically. (97,584 Bytes) '
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: AWLysol on April 22, 2003, 03:30:05 PM: Cool! Thanks hazed!
Title: any chance of input axes for trim?
Post by: Nifty on April 23, 2003, 01:50:40 PM: umm, just go to Saitek's site and get the latest SGE version for Windows XP. The latest version has support for the rotaries in WinXP.

When installing, sometimes your stick uses the Microsoft drivers instead of the Saitek drives, so the SGE software doesn't find a Saitek stick. There's an FAQ on the Saitek page that tells you how to remedy this issue.

XJazz is right btw, I wanted to use the knobs as an axis, not as a banded button.

AcId, I can see the problems with that. I guess you'd either have to do it where when disengaging the autopilot would throw the trim back to where the axes are set, or if you use axes for trim, you can't use the autopilot.

As it is now, I just use the hat on the back of the throttle for aileron and elevator trim. I use the banded rotaries for gear/tailhook and damage/clipboard.