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Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 17, 2003, 10:14:16 PM
I was just thinking now that the young black female soldier
is in Germany.
Will The military fly out her parents like they did for Jessica Lynch?
Haven't heard anything on it.
IMHO I think they should she was wounded and a POW as well
Just Like Jessica.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: anonymous on April 17, 2003, 10:26:55 PM
i dont see why they wouldnt. the empty space to germany is there waiting to be filled. only reason they might not is if she isnt as badly wounded she could come home to America much sooner. no point in them flying out if she only going to be in germany for two days and then heading home.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Thrawn on April 17, 2003, 10:27:00 PM
To paraphrase Airhead, I'm sure she'll get a great job at a Motel 6.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Raubvogel on April 17, 2003, 10:40:05 PM
Ummm....The US Army does not discriminate towards race, creed, color, or religion if that is what you are implying. This is 2003, not 1933.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Airhead on April 17, 2003, 10:45:32 PM
I don't know Thrawn, her future might be brighter than that. Did you see the look of fear on her face in the video while she was a POW? Maybe she has a future in Hollywood movies as the scared black chick hostage. I haven't seen fear like that since Buckwheat thought he saw a ghost in a 1930s episode of Little Rascals.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 17, 2003, 10:46:12 PM
I was in the Army  and yes they do discriminate!!
You ever hear of light green and dark green?
My point is i'm not hearing as much about this young lady as
The media darling Jessica lynch.
If I had to point the finger at someone it would be the media.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 17, 2003, 10:47:10 PM
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Originally posted by Airhead
I don't know Thrawn, her future might be brighter than that. Did you see the look of fear on her face in the video while she was a POW? Maybe she has a future in Hollywood movies as the scared black chick hostage. I haven't seen fear like that since Buckwheat thought he saw a ghost in a 1930s episode of Little Rascals.


I guess that was supposed to be funny?
Title: Black female POW
Post by: AKIron on April 17, 2003, 11:06:00 PM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was in the Army  and yes they do discriminate!!
You ever hear of light green and dark green?
My point is i'm not hearing as much about this young lady as
The media darling Jessica lynch.
If I had to point the finger at someone it would be the media.


I'm glad you realize that it was the media and not the Army making all the hoopla over Jessica. Timing was key here. Jessica was rescued before the others. Also, victory had pretty much been guaranteed by the time the others were found. Still, there will likely be bucks offered for each of their stories.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Hangtime on April 17, 2003, 11:34:20 PM
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..haven't seen fear like that since Buckwheat thought he saw a ghost in a 1930s episode of Little Rascals.


that cost me 15 minutes of my life.

and a drunk cat.

still cleaning my dewars off the wall.

and my sinus condition is officialy over.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Raubvogel on April 17, 2003, 11:59:18 PM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was in the Army  and yes they do discriminate!!
You ever hear of light green and dark green?
My point is i'm not hearing as much about this young lady as
The media darling Jessica lynch.
 


What decade were you in the Army? Nowadays the Army is about as integrated and equal as it gets. Any discrimination is local, not institutional, and it is dealt with harshly.

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If I had to point the finger at someone it would be the media.


Then point the your finger at the media, not the military. They flew her family to meet her? That's news to me.

"A corporate jet from the Pittsburgh-based H.J. Heinz Co. flew the family to Germany. They were to have one stopover in Washington, D.C."

Point the fingers in the right direction dude.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Mini D on April 18, 2003, 12:06:22 AM
Not many of the 7 P.O.W.s got the press that Jessica did.  No need to single out the only black female of the bunch and insinuate that others were being racist.  To be honest, this thread is more rasist than the coverage (or lack thereof).

MiniD
Title: Black female POW
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on April 18, 2003, 12:14:22 AM
I think only rank counts in the army.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Airhead on April 18, 2003, 12:27:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D

...To be honest, this thread is more rasist than the coverage (or lack thereof).

MiniD



Actually this thread is more sexist than racist. Had Shoshana Johnson loked like Halle Berry and Jessica Lynch looked like Rosanna Barr- Arnold you'd see her as the featured pictorial in "Girls Of Iraqi Freedom", an upcomong Penthouse pictorial, instead of Jessica.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: StSanta on April 18, 2003, 07:08:41 AM
The media, as many have pointed out is actually the *source* of more racism than many other things.

In DK I get a kick outta one of our bigger newspapers; one day they run Ausländer Raus! like headlines, the next 'racist government policies means Ali Baba have to stay in Somailia where he will be diismembered by hungry dogs!'.

Sad.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: OIO on April 18, 2003, 08:21:09 AM
First, the US army did NOT fly the Lynch family overseas. They actually made a statement that they would not because if they did it would set a precedent and thus they'd have to fly the families of every wounded soldier too.

The Lynch family was given the ticket and hotel accomodations by a benefactor (dont know if it was an individual or a company).

Second, its no surprise Jessica Lynch is the media attention. She's young, she's attractive, she got captured and later rescued in a spectacular fashion.

Thats media. When was the last time you saw a fat, old, wart-faced female narrating the news on CNN/FOX/MSNBC/Al Jazeera? I believe they call them "anchors" for a reason.

And you can bet that all the other POWS will be in the movie. Jessica's story cant really cover a 2 hour movie, especially since (thankfully) most others in the 507th survived and were rescued too.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Shuckins on April 18, 2003, 08:33:40 AM
They're ALL heroes in my book.  God Bless Em!

Oh, and, bye the bye, personal beauty should never be a standard for judging a person's worth.  Our looks, or lack thereof, are an accident of genetics.  We have done nothing to deserve what we inherit.  I've known too many beautiful people who thought that life owed them more than the unlovely peons around them.

Regards, Shuckins
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Rude on April 18, 2003, 08:45:42 AM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was in the Army  and yes they do discriminate!!
You ever hear of light green and dark green?
My point is i'm not hearing as much about this young lady as
The media darling Jessica lynch.
If I had to point the finger at someone it would be the media.


You're hearing reported just as many times if not more, of the group of 7 POW's of which she was one.

Jessica was a single POW rescued in a daring nightime raid

That is the difference.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Eagler on April 18, 2003, 09:18:41 AM
they all have book deals in their future. played right - they won't have to work another day in their lives...

maybe they don't want the media's cameras crammed in thier faces .. I know I wouldn't.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 18, 2003, 09:35:01 AM
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What decade were you in the Army? Nowadays the Army is about as integrated and equal as it gets. Any discrimination is local, not institutional, and it is dealt with harshly


I was in the army 76-80
And yes there was rasism then.
And i was under then impressinion that the Lynch family was flown to Germany in a military transport plane?
My mistake if not.
But the other 7 POW's still got no where the press that Jessica got.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Martlet on April 18, 2003, 09:41:44 AM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was in the army 76-80
And yes there was rasism then.
And i was under then impressinion that the Lynch family was flown to Germany in a military transport plane?
My mistake if not.
But the other 7 POW's still got no where the press that Jessica got.


Actually, the military has aired the other 7 POWs more than Jessica.   They can't control what the media does.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Mini D on April 18, 2003, 09:59:59 AM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was in the army 76-80
And yes there was rasism then.
Ummm.... the military changed drastically in the early-mid 80's.  I'd venture to say that service prior to 84 was vastly different than service afterwards.  Basically, your experiences there are not very representative of the modern military.  Hell... my experiences as of 93 are most likely not very representative of the modern military.  But at least I realize that.
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But the other 7 POW's still got no where the press that Jessica got.
Ah... so now you start talking about all of the other POWs and not singling out the one black female.  BTW, did you know that the black female soldier underwent two surgeries while a POW to repair gunshot wounds to her ankles?  She actually got better care than the other POWs around her.  So at least the Iraqis were racist and sexist.

As for the actual ignorance of the rest of this particular statement...

I wonder why someone being rescued from a hospital by special forces and a well planned joint operation would get more media coverage than "OK... here's your POWs".  And why, just because 1 person was rescued a week before and the media had hit virtually every aspect of coverage on Jessica and POWs in general that they'd feel they'd pretty much played the subject out.

Nah... its all because this set of POWs had a black female in it.  The media saw that and just lost interest.

:rolleyes: (for animal)

MiniD
Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 18, 2003, 10:19:56 AM
Hey you people threw in the race card not me!!!
I did not say one thing about race .
I mentioned (black female POW)
And you people turned into a race thing.
Bye the way I'm white If that matters.
The point I was really trying to make was I think jessica became the media darling purely becuse she is cute.
While the Black female pow Well how you say ? Is not as good looking.
Maybe I was watching the wrong channel MSNBC
but all i heard was jessica this and jessica that.
Oh well.
There all home and thats all that counts.
Title: Re: Black female POW
Post by: Mini D on April 18, 2003, 10:23:32 AM
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Originally posted by rc51
I was just thinking now that the young black female soldier
is in Germany.
Will The military fly out her parents like they did for Jessica Lynch?
Haven't heard anything on it.
IMHO I think they should she was wounded and a POW as well
Just Like Jessica.
RC51,

If you fail to see how this thread went directly to the race card then you are quite simply obtuse.  The thread is title "Black female POW" for Christ's sake.  You then compare the treatment of a black female POW to that of the white female POW.  Then you say that everyone else brought up the race card?

Damn dude... buy a fricking clue.

MiniD
Title: Black female POW
Post by: rc51 on April 18, 2003, 10:25:10 AM
No you saw it the way you wanted to see it.
Not the way it IS!
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Arfann on April 18, 2003, 10:49:34 AM
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Originally posted by Shuckins
They're ALL heroes in my book.  God Bless Em!

Oh, and, bye the bye, personal beauty should never be a standard for judging a person's worth.  Our looks, or lack thereof, are an accident of genetics.  We have done nothing to deserve what we inherit.  I've known too many beautiful people who thought that life owed them more than the unlovely peons around them.

Regards, Shuckins


Spoken like a truly ugly person. My condolences, but I have trouble empathizing since I am one of the chosen few who are absolutely, incredibly, good looking. No, really. Ask anyone.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Martlet on April 18, 2003, 10:50:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Ah... so now you start talking about all of the other POWs and not singling out the one black female.  BTW, did you know that the black female soldier underwent two surgeries while a POW to repair gunshot wounds to her ankles?  She actually got better care than the other POWs around her.  So at least the Iraqis were racist and sexist.



Hey, don't throw me in the racist mix, I was just responding to a post.  I could give 2 ****s what color their skin is.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Wlfgng on April 18, 2003, 11:02:27 AM
lol Arfann
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Mini D on April 18, 2003, 11:21:31 AM
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Originally posted by Martlet
Hey, don't throw me in the racist mix, I was just responding to a post.  I could give 2 ****s what color their skin is.
I didn't.. that was adressed to a specific individual who is, as near as I can tell, the only one who managed to single out anyone amongst the POWs.... despite accusing everyone else of playing the race card.

MiniD
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Martlet on April 18, 2003, 11:24:05 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
I didn't.. that was adressed to a specific individual who is, as near as I can tell, the only one who managed to single out anyone amongst the POWs.... despite accusing everyone else of playing the race card.

MiniD


oh yeah, sorry.

lack of sleep.

I just just do my blog and take a nap.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: OIO on April 18, 2003, 11:31:29 AM
Not to mention that Jessica's rescue is perhaps, the biggest ever undertaken by any military force to rescue a low-ranking soldier.

Heck, the US's last "big" rescue ops was in WW2..and it was to get a high ranking officer out.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Airhead on April 18, 2003, 11:38:42 AM
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Originally posted by rc51

Bye the way I'm white If that matters.




Really?? Well, you sure fooled me- I would have sworn you were an Angry Young Black Man. ;)

All the media does is cater to what the public wants- and that is SEX. The public is DYING to hear all the dirty little details of what Jessica went through- but if she's smart she won't say a word until her book comes out.

And I can guarantee you that in the movie we'll all be treated to scenes of Jessica in her underwear tied to a hospital bed and maybe we'll get an R rating if we have a shower scene of female recruits in basic training. Sex sells, after all.

The only real question is who to get to play the role of Jessica when the movie comes out. Kirstin Dunst would be my first choice, but she's currently working on another movie- "Abducted: The Elizabeth Smart Story."

Sex sells.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: Wlfgng on April 18, 2003, 12:00:03 PM
prolly that skinny twit that played a lawyer or something...
you know,. the one dating Harrison Ford.. :)
Title: Black female POW
Post by: midnight Target on April 18, 2003, 12:05:14 PM
Free the Black Woman POW's!!

.... sorry, but this was a silly thread.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: SunKing on April 18, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
You can learn alot about our community in this thread.
Title: Black female POW
Post by: OIO on April 18, 2003, 03:57:49 PM
Yeah. I learned my gaming rig beats yours! :D :D :D ;)


I feel better now. NEXT!