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Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: fffreeze220 on April 20, 2003, 12:01:35 PM: Have a look

link (http://www.luft46.com/misc/sanger.html)
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: frank3 on April 20, 2003, 01:01:35 PM: it's some kind of kamikaze-rocketplane? (I don't intend to read the whole story...)
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: john9001 on April 20, 2003, 01:30:32 PM: i don't know about that plane , but the germans were testing a manned V-1 suicide version but it was never used, also the japanese had a rocket powered suicide plane that was dropped from a bomber.
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: frank3 on April 20, 2003, 01:35:11 PM: I know about the suicidal manned V-1, Hitler hated the idea of letting Germans kill themselfs
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Fridaddy on April 20, 2003, 07:01:36 PM: "Silverbird",
a manned, winged vehicle that could reach orbit. The Sänger Amerika Bomber was designed for supersonic, stratospheric flight.
I read an article in Popular Mechanics that said NASA enginners looked at the blueprints and they felt it could work.
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Furball on April 20, 2003, 10:08:26 PM: you think thats strange?! check this out :)

(http://www.luft46.com/mmart/mmwesp3.jpg)
http://www.luft46.com/heinkel/hewespe.html

and

(http://www.luft46.com/mmart/mmlerc4.jpg)

http://www.luft46.com/heinkel/helerche.html

VTOL fighters
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: hogenbor on April 21, 2003, 04:46:05 AM: That simply is amazing... that so far ahead of its time it's unbelievable. A good thing they cancelled it, and with a 8000lbs payload too...
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Grendel on April 22, 2003, 02:04:38 AM: Von Braun and the rest of the German rocket team were more interested on sending man to space and launching space missions, than creating rocket weapons. Actually the V-2 team was arrested at least once for planning space rockets rather than rocket weapons.

After the war that team sent the first man to the moon. Funnu isn't it?
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Swoop on April 22, 2003, 02:17:25 AM: Actually that thing in the link reminds me of TSR2.......

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Furball on April 22, 2003, 07:32:31 AM: this "schnellbomber" seems more feasible. 33,000lb bomb load!

http://www.luft46.com/bmw/bmw3.html

(http://www.luft46.com/mmart/bmwsn11.jpg)
Title: Re: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: mipoikel on April 22, 2003, 07:34:54 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fffreeze220
Have a look

link (http://www.luft46.com/misc/sanger.html)

Gatorwarning! :D
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: udet on April 22, 2003, 08:19:28 PM: there's nothing crazy about that aircraft. It is the precursor of the X-15 and Dynasoar and Space Shuttle
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: frank3 on April 23, 2003, 02:19:17 PM: These monsters actually excisted in the 2nd WW?? :eek:
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Suave on April 23, 2003, 02:47:03 PM: I think my favorite is the Lippisch p13a, a jet fueled by coal .

http://www.luft46.com/lippisch/lip13a.html
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Fridaddy on April 23, 2003, 07:59:33 PM: Coal oil, AKA Kerosene.
Still used as jet fuel.
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: straffo on April 24, 2003, 03:50:30 AM: French version (destroyed during flight testing in 1959)

(http://modelstories.free.fr/analyses/avions/MS2002_3P/MACH_COLEO/coleo03.JPG)

(http://modelstories.free.fr/analyses/avions/MS2002_3P/MACH_COLEO/coleo06.JPG)

(http://modelstories.free.fr/analyses/avions/MS2002_3P/MACH_COLEO/coleo05.JPG)

quoted from : http://208.56.150.96/wheel/wheel.htm

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In France, the Société Nationale d'Etude et Construction de Moteurs d'Aviation (SNECMA) began working on a jet powered tail-sitter in 1954. Various rigs were tested from 1955-1957 powered by the 6,400 lb thrust Atar D jet engine, each with increasing complexity. The C450 Coléoptère ("annular wing") was the final step in the program. It had a 22 ft fuselage surrounded by a 10.5 ft diameter annular wing with four small fins above castoring wheels. The airframe was built by the Nord company. Control in hover was provided by tilting vanes in the nozzle of the 7,700 lb thrust Atar 101E turbojet. In forward flight the small fins deflected the air for control. Two small strakes in the nose could be extended to facilitate a pitch-up moment in transition back to vertical. First tethered hover was on 17 April 1959; first free hover was on 3 May 1959, lasting for 3 1/2 minutes. The ninth flight was on 25 July 1959; it was to transition to about 36° from the vertical and then return to hover at 2,000 ft before beginning a vertical descent. However, the Coléoptère was unable to establish the hover and began descending faster than desired and fell into oscillations about all three axes. The pilot ejected at 150 ft but was badly hurt. The Coléoptère rotated to about 50° and accelerated horizontally, but did not quite complete the transition and crashed. Emphasis on both sides of the Atlantic changed from dispersal to air superiority and attack, roles for which the tail sitters, with their small payload and range, were ill-suited.
Title: Most crazy Aircraft
Post by: Suave on April 24, 2003, 08:22:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Fridaddy
Coal oil, AKA Kerosene.
Still used as jet fuel.

This used powdered coal .