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Title: has NASCAR hit the wall?
Post by: john9001 on April 22, 2003, 09:22:53 PM: NASCAR has "donated" $100,000 to the jesse jackson extortion fund.

What will NASCAR fans think about this? Will they boycott the races or will they still pay big money to see the races?
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Post by: rpm on April 22, 2003, 09:36:17 PM: It won't phase them a bit. NASCAR has been trying to get more Blacks involved in the sport for several years. Jackie Joyner Kersey was supposed to be a Team Owner last year but it never happened.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 22, 2003, 09:47:41 PM: Hiiissssssss...
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Post by: Frogm4n on April 22, 2003, 09:48:33 PM: nascar needs to die a painfull death(kind of like #3) and im a democrat.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 22, 2003, 09:52:44 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
im a democrat.

No equal opportunity racing for you?
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 22, 2003, 09:55:44 PM: (http://www.thom.org/photos/geese.jpg)

****!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Frogm4n on April 22, 2003, 10:19:50 PM: i just dont like jessie
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Post by: hawk220 on April 22, 2003, 11:33:51 PM: everyone knows, people just go to see the crashes!
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Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2003, 03:02:01 AM: Ahhhh I see we have some NON NASCAR fans out there....

NASCAR FAN, REPUBLICAN, CONSERVATIVE, and ACTIVE DUTY AF AVIATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOOOOOO NASCAR.......

PS was not aware about the Jesse Jackson thing...cant confirm nor deny it but it wouldnt change the fact that I watch for the sport NOT the ruling authority's donations to things....

88 GO DALE JARRETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RACE THAT TRUCK DALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 23, 2003, 04:06:24 AM: Why is high performance race car with a fake fiberglass truck body considered a truck???
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Post by: Mark Luper on April 23, 2003, 04:46:53 AM: You are right, of course, Grun, they are really cars with truck like bodies on them. As to whether or not they use fiberglass they do use some but most are built the same as the cars, metal bodies. Actually the only part of the cars that come off of the originals are the windshield, top, and back glass. For all intents and purposes the cars are identical. Most use the same chassis, suspension, transmissions, and diferentials. The engines are identical in displacement, ignition and carburator.

These are pseudo "stock" cars and "trucks" built with a formula approved by NASCAR to keep them as equal as possible on the track. Part of the reason they use "old" technology. Granted, that "old" technology has been massaged to the max.
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Post by: Martlet on April 23, 2003, 04:55:53 AM: In the 90's, Jackson started screaming that NASCAR was racist because they had so few blacks involved.

NASCAR put him on the payroll, and he's been quiet ever since.

That's how he gets his money.
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Post by: Naso on April 23, 2003, 05:29:42 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Martlet
In the 90's, Jackson started screaming that NASCAR was racist because they had so few blacks involved.

NASCAR put him on the payroll, and he's been quiet ever since.

That's how he gets his money.

That's how America works. ;)

Where's my cheque???

:D
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 23, 2003, 05:46:40 AM: I just find the whole "stock" car thing to be ridiculous - they havent been stock cars since the 1950s if ever.
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Post by: X2Lee on April 23, 2003, 06:43:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
nascar needs to die a painfull death(kind of like #3) and im a democrat.

Lowlife, I think HTC said it was unacceptable to make fun of some ones death?
Scum you are.
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Post by: Dingbat on April 23, 2003, 07:56:01 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Frogm4n
nascar needs to die a painfull death(kind of like #3) and im a democrat.

What an assinine comment, Your opinion is in very poor taste.
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Post by: narsus on April 23, 2003, 08:05:31 AM: Anyone can own a NASCAR team, it just takes a substantial investment (an easy few million). And you just can't throw a driver into a car and expect them to do well, most of the drivers have been racing since they were 5 years old in go-karts or midgets. They then moved up through the different series Truck, Hooters, Busch, Winston etc.

I don't believe NASCAR should fund a minority team, there are many teams that cant race every weekend now and NASCAR doesn't fund them. If they do it wont affect my viewing of the races, and I dont just watch for the crashes.

GRUNHERZ
I agree the cars are not stock, but tell me this would you like to watch a race if you knew the winner before the end of the race. NASCAR is trying to make the sport as even as possible, they are doing a good job as can be seen this year, think there has been 8 races with 8 different winners.

Look at forumula 1 last season Schunmaker and Ferrari dominated, I didn't enjoy any of the races because you knew who was going to finish first and second.
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Post by: OZkansas on April 23, 2003, 08:27:46 AM: NASCAR should have sent JJ packing. Now they will be extorted by JJ from now on, what a shame,NASCAR=guttless.
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Post by: Nifty on April 23, 2003, 09:18:54 AM: so does the NHL pay JJ too? I can only think of 4 black NHL players off the top of my head. That one goalie that I can't remember his name, Brashear, Grier and Doig (last two both on the Capitals.) I don't recall JJ squeaking about the NHL, then again, I don't pay attention to him when he is squeaking about anything. ;)
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Post by: Dingbat on April 23, 2003, 09:27:13 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Nifty
so does the NHL pay JJ too? I can only think of 4 black NHL players off the top of my head. That one goalie that I can't remember his name, Brashear, Grier and Doig (last two both on the Capitals.) I don't recall JJ squeaking about the NHL, then again, I don't pay attention to him when he is squeaking about anything. ;)

Grant Fuhr
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Post by: Frogm4n on April 23, 2003, 10:22:31 AM: people made fun of that protestors death in isreal left and right.
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Post by: narsus on April 23, 2003, 10:25:29 AM: so two wrongs make a right Frog? extemely poor taste...and not everyone made fun of the protestors death.
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Post by: Arfann on April 23, 2003, 10:40:25 AM: Quote
Originally posted by john9001
NASCAR has "donated" $100,000 to the jesse jackson extortion fund.

What will NASCAR fans think about this? Will they boycott the races or will they still pay big money to see the races?

I can't help it. I get this mental image of JJ living in a trailer court saying "Yo, Bubba. Hold my beer. Watch this!"
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Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2003, 11:15:24 AM: ""Why is high performance race car with a fake fiberglass truck body considered a truck???""

Hmm the question can be reversed.....why is a high performace race truck with a fake fiberglass body considered a car?

As from previous posts the majority of the body on either the truck or the car is made of metal....simple reasoning is if it gets mashed then it can be banged out where fiberglass can not. Second metal in such a small thickness is stronger than fiberglass and easier to form and adapt.

As for the individual that made the comment about #3....I am sorry you feel that way. I will try to remember not to badmouth any of your friends or relatives if they have died. The number 3 had a name....Dale...he was a father, dad, and friend. Some of us fall into the category priveleged enough to consider him one of those.

Before you make comments that are off the cuff please consider that you may be hurting someone you did not intend to.
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Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2003, 11:21:49 AM: ".... Actually the only part of the cars that come off of the originals are the windshield, top, and back glass..."

Just 2 cents again....the windshields and tops and back glass are not OEM part...Original Equipment Manufacture....the majority of folks (dont know any that dont though) are using Lexan windscreens and back windows....glass heavier and more dangerous in a crash.

Top...this is not original either....take a look at a Ford Taurus...look at the top...dimensions/curvature/etc are not the same as on a stock car (winston/busch/arca). Goes the same for the other makes but I love Fords...LOL.

Glad to see we have NASCAR FANS out here!!! Whos your favorite driver???????

NASCAR FAN, REPUBLICAN, Major in the USAF!!!, HUSBAND, and AH ADDICT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D :D :D
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Post by: narsus on April 23, 2003, 11:29:38 AM: Hey gutboy

I only started watching NASCAR a few years ago, my friend Brian was a Dale fan so I watched him, until the accident at Daytona. So I figured I would watch his son so I am a Little E fan now.

I also like Kenny Schrader, and Michael Waltrip.
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Post by: Creamo on April 23, 2003, 11:40:51 AM: The diffrence between trucks in NASCAR is my all time fav... Ted Musgrave, former NASCAR Winston Cup Family Channel Ford #16, is in the Dodge #1 whipping bellybutton that can bump and grind even moreso in the trucks and win, win,win.

(http://www.tedmusgrave.com/images/home_image_2002_22.jpg)

Had you sat next to me at the Brickyard when Ted was racing 45 seconds behind the pack as they came around turn one (infield seats) you would have had to endure me yelling"TEDDY!" every lone lap he made. Noone was impressed, I had a ball.

That's the diffrence.
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Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2003, 11:41:36 AM: Cool.....

My buddy Randy...another AF buddy was at Daytona when Dale died....

I am a Dale Jarrett Fanatic!!!!!!!!
#2 Ryan Newman
#3 Elliott Sadler/Dale Jr
#4 Toss up between a bunch

Who I dont like.....

KURT BUSCH....good driver but egomainac
STEVE PARK....Just plain dangerous hasnt recovered from his crash...in fact a guy that flys with me knows steve personally (used to race with him in the early days up in New England) and admits he isnt 100%...but thats to be expected with the wreck he had...GIve him time....
ROBBIE GORDON.....dont like him ...dangerous in my opinion...Hot head

I too like Kenny Schrader and Mike Waltrip GREAT GUYS
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Post by: guttboy on April 23, 2003, 11:42:39 AM: GONNA START A POST ON THE O'Club forum.....see me there!!!!!!!

:D
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Post by: Eagler on April 23, 2003, 12:20:45 PM: Non Athletic Sport Centerd Around Rednecks = NASCAR
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Post by: Saurdaukar on April 23, 2003, 12:27:13 PM: Oh man...

Ive possessed Eagler somehow.
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Post by: midnight Target on April 23, 2003, 12:48:14 PM: Buncha former drug runners!
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Post by: Mark Luper on April 23, 2003, 04:37:24 PM: Actually, they are a bunch of former moonshine runners :).