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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sox on July 31, 2000, 05:43:00 PM
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Was wondering, The SEA arena is mostly dead of pilots. I was thinking that we could start a Axis Vs. Allied fighting in it when no one was useing it for a Speacle Event.
It would give us a Idea how many wanted to realy do this and maybe get our own Arena. At lest we could see how well it would go. Any takers ?
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VMFA-212 Lancers
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That would be nice once we have a planeset to support it. At least one allied tank and one axis bomber.
miko--
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This is a repost of a repost, with slight modifications, of mine from the last thread that brought this subject up. I'm still waiting to get a response to this. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
We would need the following units to round out the available Allied and Axis forces:
Axis
Ju52 or Japanese markings on a C-47(Axis aerial troop transport)
German APC Halftrack (Axis ground based troop transport)
H8K2 "Emily" (Heavily armed, tough heavy bomber with a decent payload)
He177 (Another Axis heavy bomber, to counter the Allied B-17G and Lancaster)
Fw190F Series or Ju87G (Axis anti-tank fighter)
Fw190D-9 (High performance Axis fighter)
Ki84 (High performance Axis fighter)
Allies
T-34/76 (Allied tank comparable to the PnZ IV)
If we could get those, I would (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)LOVE (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) to see a Axis vs. Allied environment.
Sisu
-Karnak
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We dont need all that right now. We dont have to go all out as far as tanks and Bombers. It dont have to be precise. Its the fighter problem its geting old fighting down other Alied Planes and such. Would be nice to see a two sided war for a change..Im haveing a hard time showing up for the Speacle Event stuff.
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We had one going for a short time, Udie was running it. With no icons. We had 20-30 folks in there in the US evenings. Would also like to get this going again. Limited icons if the CM priv. ever get coded to allow for that.
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We could have a semi-historical arena every day and night it's not in use for snapshots and other events. Just ask CM's to set arena WHEN LEAVING from a special event to the following:
Bishops fields; allied A/C (+ all tracks)
Rooks fields; LW/IJN A/C (and B17/B26/C47 + all tracks))
knight fields and a1 disbled.
All other settings just like main.
Then we'd have it available every night.
Hang
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Good idea Hangtime. CMs is it doable? (dont forget to turn the icons off) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I could see this taking over from the MA with the proper organisation, still think a 2 sided war is what most people want. Great idea.
TTFN
snafu
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Count me in. Gettin' tired of them bastidges in the P47's & 51's scaring up Big Blue.
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Apache
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Unfortunately, at this time, the CM's cannot setup the arena like that. I'm sorry.
But we are running two "Snapshots" a week, which are historical based one life two sided axis vs allied battles. One is on Sunday afternoons, for the US and EURO contingent, and one is during the Pacific Rim timeframe (See Special Events Forum for more details).
In the very near future, we plan on starting an event (as yet unamed) that will run 3-4 hours, axis vs allied, with loose rules and multiple lives. This should be about as close as we can get, at this time, to what you are looking for.
So come out and support the Special Events.
One last thing. It is absolutely impossible to turn off Icons in the arena, its just not in the game.
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Vermillion
Senior CM, AH Scenario Corps.
[This message has been edited by Vermillion (edited 08-02-2000).]
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This is an great idea... But without an arena there 24/7 that clearly says "Axis Vs Allies" or something similar it wont fly (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
It would perhaps work better if we setup an mailinglist or something to keep us who wants this in AH togheter...
Regards
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AH : Maniac
WB : -nr-1-
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what you guys should think about too is player attendance .. me thinks right now there's not enough player "mass" for 2 full blown arenas..
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Verm..
"Bishops fields; allied A/C (+ all tracks)
Rooks fields; LW/IJN A/C (and B17/B26/C47 + all tracks))
knight fields and a1 disbled.
All other settings just like main."
Unfortunately, at this time, the CM's cannot setup the arena like that. I'm sorry.
Damn.. you work for a Bank?? Is this a limitation of the arena mechanics (not as far as I'm aware) or a limitation imposed by HTC?
What part of the above formula is not do-able? What compromise could be implemented?
We'd like to use the Arena.. it's empty every night. Why not when snapshots are done configure it so it WILL be used?
Hang
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Hangtime, all I can do is tell you what we (the CM group) are able too do. And that is to provide special events similar to what you were asking for, so I took the opportunity to point you all too them.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) So lighten up on me a little.
The CM's don't make policy at HTC, or start new "concept" arena's on a whim.
If you want a full time Axis vs Allied Arena, you must talk to Pyro. I can't even begin to comment on such a thing. Its not my place, or my wish, too do so.
Right now we have been asked to return the arena to its default configuration when not in use (which is the polite way of saying "you will" do this).
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Vermillion
Senior CM, Aces High Scenario Corps.
[This message has been edited by Vermillion (edited 08-02-2000).]
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Ahhhh.. thanks Verm; did not meant to give yah a hard time; I get curious when someone sez "No; we can do that" with out explaining WHY they can't do that. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ok; it's a HTC policy issue.. not a technical difficulty. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks.. and we appreciate what you guys do. Really. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
HEY HTC!! Why can't we play in the SEA??? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Hang
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WTF is a CM?
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The term "CM" comes from long ago in AirWarrior, when this type of game was in its infancy.
CM literally comes from "Campaign Manager".
CM as it applies to AcesHigh, is an individual player, who has been given access to the arena settings for the Special Events Arena (SEA) by HiTech Creations.
This is so that individual or a group of CM's, can run special events such as short term (ie one day) historical events, tournaments, or long term historical events spread out (but interlinked in concept) over several "nights" of play.
Right now there is a group of about 20 of us who have been granted this priveledge (and its attending responsibilities), and as a group we are called the "CM Group" or "Scenario Corps".
Did I miss anything?
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Vermillion
Senior CM, Aces High Scenario Corps.
[This message has been edited by Vermillion (edited 08-02-2000).]
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The only downside to an allied vs axis arena is that inevitably... planesets will favor one side over the other.
I personally don't have a problem with this, but I read at least 10 threads a week describing how over-under-incorrectly modeled things are right now. The average player is either
a) going to scream unbalanced
b) going to scream uber
c) going to scream unfair
when they lose a battle.
Sure this is a pecemistic aproach to the situation... but I really don't think a majority of the community is mature enough to make the axis/allied scenario work without some kind of moderators... and that's not practical.
People aren't being forced to fight in whatever they are provided with in order to protect their country's ideologies... they are allowed to chose whatever is best.
I know what most of the people who participate in this thread would do... but what do you think the average AH pilot would do?
AKDejaVu