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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: X2Lee on April 23, 2003, 06:45:56 AM
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04-22-2003 10:48 PM
Frogm4n
Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Kailua-Kona/Tampa/Portland
Posts: 686
nascar needs to die a painfull death(kind of like #3) and im a democrat.
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I beat the internet... the last guy was hard.
Frogboy, If I do ever meet you expect an asswhipping....
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If he means nascar as a sport i don't see why not.
If someone here has nascar as a handle and he means that person, then NO
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No
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Originally posted by Nilsen10
If he means nascar as a sport i don't see why not.
If someone here has nascar as a handle and he means that person, then NO
Nascar #3 was ....
Dale Earnhardt (1951-2001), American automobile racer, seven-time winner of the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing (NASCAR) championship. Nicknamed the Intimidator for his aggressive and keen driving abilities, Earnhardt was a fan favorite across the United States.
Ralph Dale Earnhardt was born in Kannapolis, North Carolina
. As the son of NASCAR driver Ralph Earnhardt, the young Earnhardt began automobile racing when he was a teenager. He first raced NASCAR vehicles in 1975 and slowly worked his way into the Winston Cup circuit. (The Winston Cup circuit is the major annual series in stock-car racing.) Earnhardt’s first NASCAR Winston Cup win came in his 16th Winston Cup race, when he claimed the Southeastern 500 at Bristol, Tennessee, in 1979. After being named NASCAR rookie of the year in 1979, he won the NASCAR championship in 1980, becoming the first driver to win rookie of the year honors and the NASCAR championship in successive seasons. Earnhardt also won the NASCAR championship in 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991, 1993, and 1994, joining American automobile racer Richard Petty as the only seven-time winners of the championship.
Despite his overall success, for many years Earnhardt had repeated and well-publicized disappointments at the Daytona 500, the premier event in stock-car racing. In 1990 he led for most of the race, but he suffered a cut tire on the last lap, which prevented him from winning. In 1995 he finished second, trailing winner Sterling Marlin by only 0.61 seconds. In 1996 he placed second by an even smaller margin, trailing winner Dale Jarrett by 0.12 seconds. In 1998 Earnhardt entered his 20th Daytona 500 and finally won the event, cementing his reputation as one of the greatest NASCAR drivers ever. In 2001 Earnhardt was killed after he crashed his car into a wall during the last lap of the Daytona 500.
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/refarticle.aspx?refid=761580519
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If Nascar#3 was that person then NO
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Isn't this something we should let the courts decide? I mean... its just not right for us to pass judgement without all the facts.
Oh... that's right... this makes you look morally superior. Post on.
MiniD
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Frogman, you are a moron.
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Frogman's not a moron just incapable of forming an opinion with respect to those who have died as a result of accidents. I'd love to see him reference a military enagement, with the same respect he gave earnhart, in a room full of soldiers. He wouldn't last a minute.
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NO if its an american super hero.
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Ok, so thus far we've discovered the following:
1.) Frog has bad taste in jokes.
2.) X2Lee is that bratty kid in 3rd grade always telling on people.
Carry on.
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I'll answer with another question:
Don't we need respect for the men who dies in a race as to the men that dies under a bulldozer or protesting??
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Originally posted by stegor
I'll answer with another question:
Don't we need respect for the men who dies in a race as to the men that dies under a bulldozer or protesting??
Well, regarding the bulldozer, some say it was an accident some don't. The initial photo released was photoshopped, I'd have to find the link again. I respected her opinion, I jumped the gun on the inital post that I made in a thread about her.
The dumbsh*t that fell of a bridge, shouldn't have been doing what he was doing in the first place. In this case you have to ask yourself," If I ran a red light deliberately and killed someone would you respect me?"
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Arguing whether it's right gloat over one person's death, compared to another is ridiculous.
I have to laugh at the people getting their panties in a wad over Earnhardt, while only a few weeks ago they were openly gloating over some girl's death under the tracks of a bulldozer. Both are tragedies. On the one hand Earnhardt died because of accident competing in a dangerous sport he knew inside out. On the other hand a girl died, at best in accidental circumstances, but at worst in a vicious attack on her person. Yet people sympathise with the sports star and pour scorn on the dead girl. I would have thought both deserved sympathy.
It's a funny old world.
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Actually... There is quite a bit of irony in regards to Ernhardt's death. He has single handedly put more people into the wall than virtually any other NASCAR racer. He was a great driver and died due to the type of driving he re-invented.
I also find the idea of mourning someone that went out of their way to put themselves in danger to be a bit rediculous.
Neither were really darwin award winners, but both went to great lengths to contribute to their own demise.
MiniD
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people that cant get over a death and joke about it will never get over it. anyways, everytime i see a #3 plastered all over someones car like the guy was a saint i have to laugh. HE DROVE A CAR IN A CIRCLE. plenty of people die everyday that contribute more to society then that loser ever did and i dont hear you whineing.
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oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar. oh and im so scared of physical threats. oooo scary!
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Mini D: Isn't this something we should let the courts decide? I mean... its just not right for us to pass judgement without all the facts.
Most people posess morals and can make moral decisions without courts telling them what to feel.
Of course for a hard-core socialist like you it is forgiveable to think that any question like "is it OK to..." reads "should our all-encompassing government outlaw..." but many of us still do not think like that and involving the courts is the last thing that comes to our minds.
Making fun of a death of any human is immoral.
(One can make a case of singular commonly accepted villains like Mussolini or Hitler, but their names are linked to so much tragedy that making any fun of them means capitalising on the suffering sof their victims.
Surely the joke "Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini are flying on the plane..." is much funnier that "Tom, Bob and Harry are flying on the plane..." becasue the first trio has a few million victims to their names.)
miko
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Frogm4n: oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar.
Millions of people voted that he contributed a lot to society through satisfying their needs - by voluntarily paying considerable sums of hard earned money to enjoy his performances.
Granted, he did not do what you think he should have been doing with his life to advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future. But we should probably start not with men like him but with jailing/exterminating his audience who do not know what is good for them and society and keep spending their income on frivilous "non-contributing" pursuits. Right?
miko
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Didn't need that reply miko. That was simply sarcasm directed at the creator of this thread.
MiniD
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sarcasim isnt allowed in the oclub minid my bad
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Originally posted by miko2d
Frogm4n: oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar.
Millions of people voted that he contributed a lot to society through satisfying their needs - by voluntarily paying considerable sums of hard earned money to enjoy his performances.
Granted, he did not do what you think he should have been doing with his life to advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future. But we should probably start not with men like him but with jailing/exterminating his audience who do not know what is good for them and society and keep spending their income on frivilous "non-contributing" pursuits. Right?
miko
Miko-
You are just arguing to argue.
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Originally posted by miko2d
...Of course for a hard-core socialist like you...
miko
Originally posted by miko2d
...advance your goals in your enlightened view of our communist future...
miko
He's on a roll today!!!
Funny thing is that if I were to think anyone in this board is a fascist, it would be miko.
But I still love his political accusations. It reminds me of kids jumping on each others **** because they disagree on who is the best Power Ranger.
And I love all the retarded "I'm gonna tell" because someone doesnt respect a person who drove around in circles.
Can never get enough of the BBS. Even with the older demographics, its just as mature as a Counterstrike clan message board.
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Miko is just concerned for "the greater good". :rolleyes:
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dude the pink ranger was the best.
animal, the fyad forums have nothing on this place.
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
people that cant get over a death and joke about it will never get over it. anyways, everytime i see a #3 plastered all over someones car like the guy was a saint i have to laugh. HE DROVE A CAR IN A CIRCLE. plenty of people die everyday that contribute more to society then that loser ever did and i dont hear you whineing.
So people who don't make a great contribution to society don't count for much? Its OK to joke about their deaths then?
What's your great contribution to society Frogm4m?
eskimo
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
oh and i wouldnt make a comment about someone that died actually doing something that CONTRIBUTED TO SOCIETY!!! unlike nascar. oh and im so scared of physical threats. oooo scary!
Dale Earnhardt Sr. contributed more to society than your ignorant worthless prettythang EVER will in your lifetime or the next ten lifetimes.
He spent hundreds of thousands (likely well into the millions) of dollars on humanitarian aid, he just never bragged about it like a dumbprettythangocrat. He gave money to at least a dozen incredibly worthy charities. The Foundation for the Carolinas, Speedway Children's Charities, Make a Wish Foundation, and many more. All of which were also listed in his will for ongoing contributions so long as his estate and DEI continue to exist, in perpetuity if it lasts that long. Not to mention hundreds of behind the scenes person to person gifts of money, food, agricultural equipment and supplies, and a list to large to go into here. He intentionally kept his contributions a secret because he did it for all the right reasons, as opposed to the liberal "donations for personal glory" attitude.
NASCAR drivers and motorsports competitors in general are noted for their willingness to donate time, money, and other assets to thousands of good causes.
You know, everytime you open your mouth, you display a greater level of ignorance. You know absolutely nothing of which you speak. A good thought for you to live by :it is better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. You'll get no threats of anything from me, moron, you do more damage to yourself with your mouth and your ignorance than anyone else could EVER hope to do.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Dale Earnhardt Sr. contributed more to society than your ignorant worthless prettythang EVER will in your lifetime or the next ten lifetimes.
He spent hundreds of thousands (likely well into the millions) of dollars on humanitarian aid, he just never bragged about it like a dumbprettythangocrat. He gave money to at least a dozen incredibly worthy charities. The Foundation for the Carolinas, Speedway Children's Charities, Make a Wish Foundation, and many more. All of which were also listed in his will for ongoing contributions so long as his estate and DEI continue to exist, in perpetuity if it lasts that long. Not to mention hundreds of behind the scenes person to person gifts of money, food, agricultural equipment and supplies, and a list to large to go into here. He intentionally kept his contributions a secret because he did it for all the right reasons, as opposed to the liberal "donations for personal glory" attitude.
NASCAR drivers and motorsports competitors in general are noted for their willingness to donate time, money, and other assets to thousands of good causes.
You know, everytime you open your mouth, you display a greater level of ignorance. You know absolutely nothing of which you speak. A good thought for you to live by :it is better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. You'll get no threats of anything from me, moron, you do more damage to yourself with your mouth and your ignorance than anyone else could EVER hope to do.
Very well said Virgil.
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agreed.
the thing with 'heroes' dieing.. it affects the fans in a way that soldiers (other than loved ones), children (same as before), innocent civillians, etc dieing doesn't.
it's because 'heroes', whether they be musicians, atheletes, politicians, etc.. affect us more when they die because we will no longer 'enjoy' the things they bring us..
creativity, new music, new games.. whatever it is that put them 'in our lives' in the first place.
yeah it's sad and tragic when anyone dies.. but when the likes of Dale Earnhardt passes away it affects us more in our daily lives.. hence the 'grieving'..
I grieved a few times for people I'd never actually known:
Hendrix
John Lennon
S.R.V.
Dale Earnhardt
(among others)
not because I think they deserved any more respect or rememberance than the next guy, but because it affected my life in a negative way when they died...
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Frog, you'da been safer making fun of Jesus than the Intimidator, though that was a bit lacking in taste.
I can think of about 100, recent Americans who are far higher on the dead hero list than good ol Dale. They likely didn't make enough money to contribute the excess to charity (isn't that kinda the easiest way to "contribute" to society, especially if you're a multi-millionaire?), probably a few of those poor inner city and country boys were even dumbprettythangocrats. They just wore the uniform and did their jobs like they were asked, and didn't come home. No contest for me.
Charon
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Animal: Funny thing is that if I were to think anyone in this board is a fascist, it would be miko.
I would gladly hear where my free-market minimum government intervention views coincide with any of the fascist views.
I have good reasons to claim that any person who insists that there are some considerations for the "public good" and "fairness" beyong those freely expressed by the said public by spending their money is repeating the communist/marxist dogma - whether knowingly or not.
Of course soldiers and some few other occupations are excluded from such mercantile calculation of "worth" but those are not engaged in free market activities.
Frogman's statement that a guy who drove a car in a circle to the satisfaction of the expressed wishes of the paying public is somehow less "deserving" than his ideal of what a person should do is pure marxism. Cool avatar, though.
Furious: You are just arguing to argue.
Damn, all that time I thought I was performing a surgery... :D
Anyway, millions of people find what Dale was doing worthy of their time and money. Frogm4n states that what he did was just worthless driving of a car in circles. Is there really an argument who is mistaken here?
Mini D: Didn't need that reply miko. That was simply sarcasm directed at the creator of this thread.
In this case I civilly appologise. It did seem to me like you've misinterpreted his statement as a call for government/judicial intervention. No sarcasm smiley in evidence... Sorry.
eskimo2: So people who don't make a great contribution to society don't count for much?
Better question to ask would be who is entitled to judge the contribution to the society than the customers demanding/purchasing that "contribution" and why would it ever matter beyong "Look at me, I am more virtuous that Dale Earnhardt"?
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your kmart collectors plates and big #3 stickers on your car windows honor him greatly.
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Originally posted by Charon
Frog, you'da been safer making fun of Jesus than the Intimidator, though that was a bit lacking in taste.
I can think of about 100, recent Americans who are far higher on the dead hero list than good ol Dale. They likely didn't make enough money to contribute the excess to charity (isn't that kinda the easiest way to "contribute" to society, especially if you're a multi-millionaire?), probably a few of those poor inner city and country boys were even dumbprettythangocrats. They just wore the uniform and did their jobs like they were asked, and didn't come home. No contest for me.
Charon
Ya know what? it aint about dale. frogman is a racist and a hater. And ill point out his idiocy everytime I see it.
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racist eh? that came out of leftfield
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Hes not a racist or a "hater" - hes just a ****ing moron - do a search.
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Yes.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Dale Earnhardt Sr. contributed more to society than your ignorant worthless prettythang EVER will in your lifetime or the next ten lifetimes.
Huh? He's a multimillionaire that used charities as a tax-break and drove around in circles. What a hero.
He made millions by providing the masses with low, cheap, lowbrow entertainment. Many of the people on these boards contribute much more by being productive members of society, producing something useful, tangible, and necessary. I have a lot more respect for the foundry worker who punches in at 6AM everyday for 40 years, enduring hellish conditions to provide for his family, than for some racecar driver.
As Animal said, a real American hero. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
racist eh? that came out of leftfield
umm, if you fly a confederate flag you deserved to be hung,
do a search of his name for multiple racist remarks.
You dont have to be southern white man to be a racist.
Him being a hater is a no brainer.
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No NASCAR track is a circle. Ovals, Tri-ovals, yes, but no circles. And before you say they only turn left, I believe there is a race at Sears Point road track.
(From an open wheel racing enthusiast, and stickler for geometric correctness.)
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I think NASCAR runs at 3 road tracks during the season.
Walkins Glen Im sure of
I think a track in South Carolina
And Sears Point maybe?
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Any individual who generates millions in income for himself helps directly or inderectly to create jobs for many working class people. If you dont think thats contribution enough, then thats your problem.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Any individual who generates millions in income for himself helps directly or inderectly to create jobs for many working class people. If you dont think thats contribution enough, then thats your problem.
Yeah, RCR and DEI both employ in excess of 250 people, so that's about 500 people whom Dale Earnhardt provided with fantastic high paying jobs. Yeah, those are both businesses built on Dale's career and reputation. Kind of like Hendrick was built on the reputation of Darrell Waltrip. Not many know that Jeff Gordon lives in the house that Darrell built.
Regarding Dale's contributions to charity, it is my understanding that he didn't deduct them because they were done anonymously. Besides the fact that many of his gifts were not given to or through charities that are deductible.
Oh yeah, all NASCAR fans are real stupid redneck low brow types. That's kind of like that wonderful liberal backed stereotype that conservatives are all mean and greedy. Probably from the same source. Typical stereotypes. Not at all surprising.
There are only two road course races in Winston Cup, Sonoma and Watkins Glen. The trucks run at Topeka. The Busch cars run at Watkins Glen.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Arguing whether it's right gloat over one person's death, compared to another is ridiculous.
I have to laugh at the people getting their panties in a wad over Earnhardt, while only a few weeks ago they were openly gloating over some girl's death under the tracks of a bulldozer. Both are tragedies. On the one hand Earnhardt died because of accident competing in a dangerous sport he knew inside out. On the other hand a girl died, at best in accidental circumstances, but at worst in a vicious attack on her person. Yet people sympathise with the sports star and pour scorn on the dead girl. I would have thought both deserved sympathy.
It's a funny old world.
As animal quite rightly pointed out, not if he's
NO if its an american super hero.
Not sure what quite made Earnhardt such the hero though, to deserve this little whingefest...
Tronsky
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Not sure what quite made Earnhardt such the hero though, to deserve this little whingefest...
Tronsky
So in Australia people dont have admirable sports figures or
sports or racing teams?
Or is it just that you are above all this trite human hero worship and cultural/competitive pride or affiliation?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So in Australia people dont have admirable sports figures or
sports or racing teams?
Or is it just that you are above all this trite human hero worship and cultural/competitive pride or affiliation?
Not at all, anyone who knows anything about Australia knows how much this bloody country loves it's sport and how easily we lambaste our favourite opponents....just ask the Pom's when we play them in cricket.
Tronsky
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I thought so tronski, then how come you dont understand that earnhartd was a sports racing hero/legend to many americans?
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I thought so tronski, then how come you dont understand that earnhartd was a sports racing hero/legend to many americans?
I do, I have a few sporting hero's myself but I just don't quite get why all this bother over an offhand remark....
Actually I do, 99.9% of people are spastics and will fight over anything....
Tronsky
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Hes not a racist or a "hater" - hes just a ****ing moron - do a search.
ROTFLOL! Spit water all over monitor...
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tronski, frankly I don't get all the fuss you Aussies make over your greatest National Hero, Yahoo Serious.
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bwhahahahahaha! :D
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Originally posted by Airhead
tronski, frankly I don't get all the fuss you Aussies make over your greatest National Hero, Yahoo Serious.
ERK!!!
Philistine...there is only one true Aussie national hero!!!!
(http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4O2nPpQgGHfMul23wYKzLS3UIBC38Gv4EkqYbU4_-m-82rTWnL7JHOj-5B4Q73kjewNKpx-Ydotis2k1-6LGy-MqCkA/Steve_and_Croc.jpg)
For you crimes against this glorious nation I curse thee so:
May your only daughter come first in a Mr T look alike competition!!
Originally posted by Dowding
bwhahahahahaha!:D
Don't you start me'lado
Tronsky
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Whatever happened to Yahoo Serious? After such a stunning debut in the world of Hollywood, you would think he would have gone far...
Ever watch 'Bush Tucker Man' with Colonel Les Hiddins? He used to go around the Bush doing a Croc Dundee type "it tastes like s**t but you can eat it" impression. He used to make out you could spend all day looking for a few berries which would both replace the energy you spent gathering the food in first place, and sustain you.
My favourite things were the freshwater shrimps (with attendant wise-crack...) and the leaves that could be used to make soap.
I kept trying to remember all the information he came out with, just in case I got stranded in the Australian bush after my Ute broke down. I don't even own a Ute!
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Originally posted by Dowding
Whatever happened to Yahoo Serious? After such a stunning debut in the world of Hollywood, you would think he would have gone far...
Ever watch 'Bush Tucker Man' with Colonel Les Hiddins? He used to go around the Bush doing a Croc Dundee type "it tastes like s**t but you can eat it" impression. He used to make out you could spend all day looking for a few berries which would both replace the energy you spent gathering the food in first place, and sustain you.
My favourite things were the freshwater shrimps (with attendant wise-crack...) and the leaves that could be used to make soap.
I kept trying to remember all the information he came out with, just in case I got stranded in the Australian bush after my Ute broke down. I don't even own a Ute!
Well i'm not surprised fer only real men drive Utes in Oz...
eventually my wife might let me get one...
The bust tucker man was a good show, but thankfully I never had to employ any of his tips...last I heard he was in Queensland involved in some kind of veteran's group (he was a Vietnam veteran).
Yahoo I think thankfully got the message, and does bugger all...but no doubt theres always the comeback
Tronsky
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Tronski, is "The Croc Hunter's" fly open???? :eek: :eek:
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Originally posted by Airhead
Tronski, is "The Croc Hunter's" fly open???? :eek: :eek:
Trust you to look there, but no I think it's his shirt....
Tronsky
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Yeah it was a good show, some of the stuff he did was amazing. I'm sure you could live off the land if you had his knowledge at hand. I didn't know he was a Vietnam Vet - he didn't look that old.
The Crocodile Hunter bloke is just nuts, even though he's a highly regarded academic. He's hard to stomach after about 10 minutes however.
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Originally posted by Dowding
Yeah it was a good show, some of the stuff he did was amazing. I'm sure you could live off the land if you had his knowledge at hand. I didn't know he was a Vietnam Vet - he didn't look that old.
The Crocodile Hunter bloke is just nuts, even though he's a highly regarded academic. He's hard to stomach after about 10 minutes however.
A highly regarded academic eh? Well compared to a Pom, that wouldn't be too hard would it? :D
The bush tucker man was in Vietnam in a reinforcement company in 1966, surprising enough...I think he ended up a Major in the Australian Army.
Tronsky
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That's right, it was Major not Colonel.
But hey, it was a while ago.
Croc Hunter is an academic - curator of a museum and everything. Not just some ozzie version of Jonny Knoxville. ;)