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Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 23, 2003, 02:57:13 PM
Having grown up in a country under Communist oppresion, with the big brother USSR as a neighbour, I find your avatar as offensive as a Jew would find the swastika.
Advertising this symbol of a brutal regime can mean either one of three things:
1) you are a complete moron with a short memory
2)you or your family had strong ties with the 'party', thus living a plush and oppulent life while the commoners spent their days in long lines for food and commodities, in fear of being turned in by their neighbours for having said something bad about the regime.
3) you are making a joke, however, I don't find anything funny about your avatar.

So please choose one of the three options above, or at least explain to me what your whole point is in using this avatar.
Title: boroda
Post by: SOB on April 23, 2003, 03:19:14 PM
Quit looking at his avatar and read his posts.  They contain everything you need to answer this question for yourself.  I'll give you a hint...it isn't option two or three.


SOB
Title: boroda
Post by: muckmaw on April 23, 2003, 03:22:35 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to complain about the guy who uses the Confederate Flag  as his Avatar.

Not that I give a rat's prettythang....just waiting.
Title: boroda
Post by: AWMac on April 23, 2003, 03:30:07 PM
Or the Humane Society complaining about my avatar.


:D
Title: boroda
Post by: SOB on April 23, 2003, 03:35:41 PM
Ack!  Your avatar is proof that my subliminal avatar is working.  Soon you will all become my SLAVES!  Muhahahahahahahaha!


SOB
Title: boroda
Post by: muckmaw on April 23, 2003, 03:36:55 PM
How could anyone complain about a cat that smokes Hallucigenic Mouse Feet with Garfield?

The very Cat that made it with Barbara Bush, dated Julia Roberts, and fought it out with Kiefer Sutherland?

Bill is my hero!

And if you get any of this...you've read way too many Bloom county comic strips.
Title: boroda
Post by: Frogm4n on April 23, 2003, 03:39:30 PM
omg a whine over the ussr's old symbol.
boroda
Title: boroda
Post by: AWMac on April 23, 2003, 03:40:34 PM
LOL  now those were comics!!!


:D
Title: boroda
Post by: midnight Target on April 23, 2003, 04:21:07 PM
Berk Breathed was a god... not THE god, but a god..
Title: boroda
Post by: Wlfgng on April 23, 2003, 05:08:33 PM
lol SOB

I like it :)

btw, Boroda's avatar and what it really stands for.. do you know?
Title: boroda
Post by: Saurdaukar on April 23, 2003, 05:27:29 PM
Kick his bellybutton Udet!!
Title: boroda
Post by: mietla on April 23, 2003, 05:46:50 PM
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
lol SOB

I like it :)

btw, Boroda's avatar and what it really stands for.. do you know?


(http://www.tomcosgrave.com/photography/dublin/photos/2002_0203_hammer_sickle_graffiti.jpg)
Title: boroda
Post by: Puke on April 23, 2003, 06:36:26 PM
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2)you or your family had strong ties with the 'party'...

I'm pretty sure he stated that this is a case.  He once gave a brief history of his family and why Stalin was necessary for Russia I think he said his grandfather worked within the party or something.  It's posted here somewhere, but I really don't care enough to make a search of his posts to find it.
Title: boroda
Post by: john9001 on April 23, 2003, 06:52:38 PM
i would have like a real kool avaitar, but i'm too lazy to make one.
Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 24, 2003, 02:59:51 AM
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Originally posted by Puke
I'm pretty sure he stated that this is a case.  He once gave a brief history of his family and why Stalin was necessary for Russia I think he said his grandfather worked within the party or something.  It's posted here somewhere, but I really don't care enough to make a search of his posts to find it.


so, he's a commie bastige? :eek:
and a moron too?
well,  somebody has to be a moron to be a communist. I guess it all makes sense. Maybe he will deign to answer this post, or maybe he will report me to the almighty KGB
:p
Title: boroda
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2003, 03:10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Frogm4n
omg a whine over the ussr's old symbol.
boroda


Not everyone has a fondness for communist tyrany like you and boroda..
Title: boroda
Post by: -tronski- on April 24, 2003, 04:42:01 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Not everyone has a fondness for communist tyrany like you and boroda..


Ahhh yes, but does that mean a you would remove your avatar or change your ID because of political correctness???

 Tronsky
Title: boroda
Post by: Dowding on April 24, 2003, 04:54:10 AM
These politically correct liberals make me sick. Always interfering.
Title: boroda
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2003, 04:59:08 AM
Ahh yes dowding and tronsky are here, faitfully protecting the true way...
Title: boroda
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 24, 2003, 05:01:06 AM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
Ahhh yes, but does that mean a you would remove your avatar or change your ID because of political correctness???

 Tronsky


I think if somebody had a swastika avatar I'd also hope tey would choose to take it down - to me they are quite similar overall. Certainly I hope we can see eye to eye on this issue, yes?
Title: boroda
Post by: Dowding on April 24, 2003, 05:05:12 AM
Stop making excuses for politically correct degenerates!
Title: boroda
Post by: -tronski- on April 24, 2003, 08:50:43 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
These politically correct liberals make me sick. Always interfering.


Don't you start you fascist bully boy...why don't you goosestep your way into your white hood just before the two minute hate begins!

I think I'm going to make some dolphin safe tuna salad, and read some Germain Greer to feel better...

 Tronsky
Title: boroda
Post by: Wlfgng on April 24, 2003, 09:01:17 AM
-gag-
PC this PC that.. bite my PC
Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 24, 2003, 09:06:27 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
These politically correct liberals make me sick. Always interfering.



I am not a very p.c. person myself, however, I think there should be some boundaries regulated by decency.
I don't see anyone posting Swastikas as their avatar. Some people forget about Stalin's purges and countless other genocides commited by that regime, which make it as bad as Nazi Germany.
 I am almost tempted to change my avatar to a swastika and see what reactions I get, but I won't do it, because I don't want to be associated in any way with that regime.
Title: boroda
Post by: Dowding on April 24, 2003, 09:14:54 AM
lol Germaine Greer! lol

Perhaps the most annoying woman on the planet. Although I saw some pictures of her in her student days and she was quite fit, in a strange way I can't quite explain.

Having said that, even though she's an ozzie, she was no Kylie (or Dannii).
Title: boroda
Post by: -tronski- on April 24, 2003, 09:22:55 AM
grrrrrrrr...kylie!!!

 Geez dowding I'd keep it to myself that you thought ole Greer was a good sort...

 Tronsky
Title: boroda
Post by: Dowding on April 24, 2003, 09:34:03 AM
She was about 20 when it was taken - perhaps she'd actually made an effort that day or something.

You don't like Kylie? She's a bit old, to be sure. Dannii is something else though. I reckon she's a dirty girl underneath that veneer of class. And her laugh gives me the facking 'orn (as Derek or Clive would say).
Title: boroda
Post by: -tronski- on April 24, 2003, 09:39:35 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
She was about 20 when it was taken - perhaps she'd actually made an effort that day or something.

You don't like Kylie? She's a bit old, to be sure. Dannii is something else though. I reckon she's a dirty girl underneath that veneer of class. And her laugh gives me the facking 'orn (as Derek or Clive would say).


lol....grrrrrr as in grrrrreat stuff....Kylie's got the best arse...(you can take Dani...too much plastic there)
dirty girl eh??  well I know know what gets your interest me'lado :D

 Tronsky
Title: boroda
Post by: -tronski- on April 24, 2003, 09:40:32 AM
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Originally posted by Dowding
She was about 20 when it was taken - perhaps she'd actually made an effort that day or something.

You don't like Kylie? She's a bit old, to be sure. Dannii is something else though. I reckon she's a dirty girl underneath that veneer of class. And her laugh gives me the facking 'orn (as Derek or Clive would say).


lol....grrrrrr as in grrrrreat stuff....Kylie's got the best arse...(you can take Dani...too much plastic there)
dirty girl eh??  well I know know what gets your interest me'lado ...typical bloody pommy , always into the B&D :D

 Tronsky
Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 24, 2003, 10:52:30 AM
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Originally posted by -tronski-
lol....grrrrrr as in grrrrreat stuff....Kylie's got the best arse...(you can take Dani...too much plastic there)
dirty girl eh??  well I know know what gets your interest me'lado ...typical bloody pommy , always into the B&D :D

 Tronsky



u punks are sabotaging my post!!!
I'd take both Danii and Kylie. They complement eachother nicely
Title: Re: boroda
Post by: Boroda on April 24, 2003, 12:05:36 PM
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Originally posted by udet
Having grown up in a country under Communist oppresion, with the big brother USSR as a neighbour, I find your avatar as offensive as a Jew would find the swastika.
Advertising this symbol of a brutal regime can mean either one of three things:
1) you are a complete moron with a short memory
2)you or your family had strong ties with the 'party', thus living a plush and oppulent life while the commoners spent their days in long lines for food and commodities, in fear of being turned in by their neighbours for having said something bad about the regime.
3) you are making a joke, however, I don't find anything funny about your avatar.

So please choose one of the three options above, or at least explain to me what your whole point is in using this avatar.


Sorry for an impolite question, but where are you from?

Now - the answers.

1) I am NOT a moron with a short memory. I was a citizen of a world's greatest country and proud of it. My memory isn't short enough to forget it.

2) My family is traditionaly military, I am the first "civilian" in at least three generations. Noone in my family ever was a Party functioner. The only thing my famliy benefited from being "close to Party circles" was when my Grandfather survived the slaughter of officers in 1917 because his batman turned out to be a chairman of Regimet Comitee. All men in my family were Party members, mandatory thing for an officer. My Father didn't quit his Party membership when it was a "fashionable" thing in 1990-91, he said "Gorbachev should quit first, I was in Party two years before him". Interesting that Father hates commies. He simply had to be in the Party back in the 50s and had no chance to refuse. But it's nothing to be ashamed of. My another Grandfather was a fanatic Communist. I found hie diary not long ago... I have deepest respect for such people. They are religious. They are in many cases better then Christians... I just want to make you understand a difference between a commie activist - a parasite without any belief and understanding, and a Communist, such as commissars of 1941, who prefered to die under torture then to tear off Commissar's Red Star from their sleeves...

3) It is not a joke.

Do you think that Austria must remove Hammer and a Sickle from their state Emblem just so they'll not offend your feelings?...

AFAIK - German nazism was under International Tribunal in Nuremberg, and swastika was declared a criminal emblem. Did such a trial happen with Communist Party? Did I miss something?

Again: Communism for me is a religion. I don't like modern communists, but I believe that humanity will come to Communism some day. Not by social revolution or other "experiments", but through the progress of science and technology. Doing something for everyone for free is a first step towards Communism. Linux community is a good example.

Thank you for your attention.
Title: boroda
Post by: OIO on April 24, 2003, 12:09:33 PM
ohcheese he brought Linux into this.

INCOMING! ;) :D
Title: boroda
Post by: Wlfgng on April 24, 2003, 04:21:23 PM
the worlds greatest country?

you mean the one that no longer exists?
or ours ?  :)
Title: boroda
Post by: boxboy28 on April 24, 2003, 04:56:01 PM
well ill be the first to you commie bastard and i respect you!
i might not agree with you but i respect you!
(commie bastard part is just a joke Boroda )

box:D


ps no wonder it took so long for him to respone he had to write a book!

lol
Title: Re: Re: boroda
Post by: Mini D on April 24, 2003, 05:04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
1) I am NOT a moron with a short memory. I was a citizen of a world's greatest country and proud of it. My memory isn't short enough to forget it.
You were American?

MiniD
Title: boroda
Post by: crabofix on April 24, 2003, 05:23:24 PM
Boroda, tell me you are jokin, please.

crabofix
Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 24, 2003, 05:58:34 PM
ok, boroda, so, I should understand that you are one of those 'utopic' communists? I'm sorry, but IMO USSR did it's best to tarnish that idea and prove its naivete. USSR was NEVER the greatest country, cause a great country has to be a FREE country. Thank you for replying to my post.

p.s. I grew up in Romania
Title: boroda
Post by: Frogm4n on April 24, 2003, 06:00:54 PM
yea if you wanna look at good models for socialism take a look at finland or norway. of course something like that wouldnt work in a country as large and selfish as ours. its just a pipe dream.
Title: boroda
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 25, 2003, 12:33:10 AM
Again: Communism for me is a religion. I don't like modern communists, but I believe that humanity will come to Communism some day. Not by social revolution or other "experiments", but through the progress of science and technology. Doing something for everyone for free is a first step towards Communism. Linux community is a good example.

 
:rolleyes:
Title: boroda
Post by: Suave on April 25, 2003, 02:16:10 AM
Fly your hammer and sickle high Boroda, be our horrible reminder, lest we forget .
Title: boroda
Post by: Gman on April 25, 2003, 02:25:52 AM
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I am NOT a moron with a short memory. I was a citizen of a world's greatest country and proud of it


Lmao!

Best quote on this BBS, ever.
Title: boroda
Post by: GRUNHERZ on April 25, 2003, 02:43:45 AM
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Originally posted by Suave
Fly your hammer and sickle high Boroda, be our horrible reminder, lest we forget .


You are Polish, right?
Title: boroda
Post by: capt. apathy on April 25, 2003, 03:16:06 AM
______________
I am not a very p.c. person myself, however, I think there should be some boundaries regulated by decency.
______________

that's pretty much what every PC type says. they all think that their position and what offends them is completely reasonable,  all who are offended by things that don't offend them are 'radical pc freaks', and anybody not offended by the things that offend them are insesitive clods.

I'm no big fan of the ussr but he can have any damn avatar he wants so long as it's ok with HTC (it is their 'house' you know), and if the statement his avatar is making offends you, and you think he should change it for that reason, you probably are a little on the 'PC freak' side.
Title: boroda
Post by: Boroda on April 25, 2003, 10:15:24 AM
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Originally posted by udet
ok, boroda, so, I should understand that you are one of those 'utopic' communists? I'm sorry, but IMO USSR did it's best to tarnish that idea and prove its naivete. USSR was NEVER the greatest country, cause a great country has to be a FREE country. Thank you for replying to my post.

p.s. I grew up in Romania


Well, I am not a "utopic communist", in fact I am not a communist at all, but I think that Communism is a stage of social development that humanity will reach sooner or later, through technological progress. It doesn't have anything with "equality", equality is impossible, but I mean that some day material goods will be equaly availible to everyone, and the real motivation of human behaviour will be creative, not just surviving. It's too hard to explain :)

Technological progress in last 100 years is hard to imagine. My Father grew up in a Cossak village and was reading in the light of kerosene lamp, and now he uses Internet and writes programms for his students.

Next steps can be as revolutionary as electricity, radio, and calculating machines.

And anyway I think that doing some good things for everyone, sometimes even at your own expence, is a duty of every honorable person. Maybe it's just an Orthodox tradition, and that's why it looks like "communist" :)

I agree with you that USSR and China are good examples that social revolutions don't lead to anything else but blood and destruction, but there were serious achievements in social sphere that can't be forgotten.

I DO believe that I was born in the world greatest country. The country that passed the way from an agricultural backwards country to the world's greatest power in 3 decades. The country that rised from ruins and 12 years after the most horrible and devastating war had reached Space and could compete with the rest of the whole world, including countries that were not only untouched by War, but benefited from it. The country with the best educational system. The country who has great science, art and a 1000 years of culture still not stagnant and developing, finding it's own way between traditional poles of East and West.

As for "freedom" - in Soviet times I was in fact much more free then now, in a capitalist society. Freedom is an inner matter. You can be "free" to do whatever you want and still be a slave.

When did you or your family leave Romania? Romania was (is?...) a very strange country to me. It had a very special status in Socialist block. Chaushesku was a dictator, but by 1987 Romania was the only Socialist country that didn't have debts, and didn't pay a single kopeyka for the needs of Warsaw treaty... Our political informators told us many interesting things about Romania, such as Chaushesku during his visit to Finland didn't come to Russian memorials but brought flowers to Mannerheims's tomb...

Do you think that it was good or bad that Chaushesku and his family was executed without a trial?...
Title: boroda
Post by: Suave on April 25, 2003, 11:09:50 AM
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
You are Polish, right?


No, but I do like beer and sausage .
Title: boroda
Post by: udet on April 25, 2003, 11:45:09 AM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Do you think that it was good or bad that Chaushesku and his family was executed without a trial?...


Ceausescu and his wife's execution was rushed by his henchmen, who then took power in the new 'democratic' country. The very same people still hold power,even though they lost the elections in 1996, but they won again in 2000. It is indeed a strange country, like you said, that's one of the reasons we left.

I would be the last to deny the technological ccomplishments of the USSR before and after the Second World War. However, don't forget that many engineers, like Korolev were imprisoned by the commies. They were such patriots they continued serving their country. THEY were great people, but the country that locked them up and freed them when it needed their brains wasn't.
Title: boroda
Post by: OIO on April 25, 2003, 12:17:05 PM
Dont worry Boroda, them gringos are still sour from being 2nd in space ;) ;) ;) ;) :D
Title: boroda
Post by: GrimCO on April 26, 2003, 08:46:29 AM
Still only one flag on the moon...  And it doesn't have a hammer and sickle  :)
Title: boroda
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 26, 2003, 09:44:38 AM
This is the best sickle-and-hammer with some "class"

(http://www.wikipedia.org/upload/4/4e/Soviet_coat_of_arms.jpg)


(you know this already) The writings that you see from left to write says "Workers of the world, unite thee" in 15 languages.
Title: Re: boroda
Post by: Ike 2K# on April 26, 2003, 10:00:23 AM
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Originally posted by udet
Having grown up in a country under Communist oppresion, with the big brother USSR as a neighbour, I find your avatar as offensive as a Jew would find the swastika.
Advertising this symbol of a brutal regime can mean either one of three things:
1) you are a complete moron with a short memory
2)you or your family had strong ties with the 'party', thus living a plush and oppulent life while the commoners spent their days in long lines for food and commodities, in fear of being turned in by their neighbours for having said something bad about the regime.
3) you are making a joke, however, I don't find anything funny about your avatar.

So please choose one of the three options above, or at least explain to me what your whole point is in using this avatar.


Boroda woudnt waste his time on this thread and i know it.