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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Furball on April 25, 2003, 08:29:29 AM
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Spit XIV flight trials.
http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/spit14afdu.html
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That document cannot be authentic. The word 'dweeb' is not used once.
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It has the best all-round performance of any present-day fighter, apart from range.
:D
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Interesting to see that the mk VIII is considered the better aeroplane below 25K:eek:
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One thing that has always confused me about that document is
Turning Circle:18. The turning circles of both aircraft are identical. The Spitfire XIV appears to turn slightly better to port than it does to starbord. The warning of an approaching high speed stall is less pronounced in the case of the Spitfire Mk XIV.
This wouldnt seem to be possible given
13. The tactical differences are caused chiefly by the fact that the Spitfire XIV has an engine of greater capacity and is the heavier aircraft (weighing 8,400 lbs. against 7,480 lbs. of Spitfire IX).
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How can the Spit XIV turn as well as a Spit IX when it weighs 1,000 pounds more and has the same wing?
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Hi Urchin,
>How can the Spit XIV turn as well as a Spit IX when it weighs 1,000 pounds more and has the same wing?
If you're talking about sustained turns, it's power that limits the turn and not lift. The Spitfire IX could turn tighter than the Spitfire XIV at any given speed - but only at the cost of losing speed or altitude.
Maintaining both, the Spitfire IX's advantage is that it needs less lift to get around in the same circle, creating less drag and requiring less power. With its more powerful engine, that Spitfire XIV can fly the same circle just fine as the extra power overcomes the extra drag.
Regards,
Henning (HoHun)
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Interesting to see that the mk VIII is considered the better aeroplane below 25K
From the description of the Spit XIV:
"The engine is not representative of production as the FS gear is higher and the MS lower. A five blade propeller is fitted. The engine had a Bendix injection carberator and boost for combat is limited to plus 15 lbs."
Lower MS gear than the production aircraft meant slightly more power below 5000ft, but much less between 5000ft and 16,000ft.
15lbs boost limit meant much less power at almost all altitudes below 30,000ft.
In other words, the Spit XIV protoype in the test against the Spit VIII had much less power than the production Spit XIV, by several hundred hp at some altitudes.
For example, the Spit XIV prototype had a max speed of 387 at 10,000ft, the Spit VIII something over 390, the production Spit XIV 406.
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Ah I see, thank you Hohun.
I don't believe the Spit XIV in Aces High turns anywhere near as well as the Spit IX, but maybe I'm just flying it wrong.
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which 109G was it tested against and which 190?
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Originally posted by Sancho
which 109G was it tested against and which 190?
Bf 109 G-2
I think that the aircraft tested was the famous "black six"
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~kkg/bb_aircraft_black6.htm
Fw 190A-3
Made inadvertent landing in England in June 1942. Pilot (from III/JG 2) got disoriented during combat, mistook the Bristol Channel for the English Channel and landed at the RAF airbase at Pembrey. The British must have been grateful.:D
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/mp499.html
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Fw 190A-3
Made inadvertent landing in England in June 1942. Pilot (from III/JG 2) got disoriented during combat, mistook the Bristol Channel for the English Channel and landed at the RAF airbase at Pembrey.
Pembrey isn't in England :)
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"The engine is not representative of production as the FS gear is higher and the MS lower. A five blade propeller is fitted. The engine had a Bendix injection carberator and boost for combat is limited to plus 15 lbs."
Consider me told...:D
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Originally posted by Nashwan
Pembrey isn't in England :)
Penbre in Cymru, right ?
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Yes. My grandmother worked there during the war.
Consider me told
It's easy to miss, as the tests against the other aircraft were made with a production plane, with 18lbs boost.
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Originally posted by FTJR
Interesting to see that the mk VIII is considered the better aeroplane below 25K:eek:
With a merlin 70 the spit VIII was one sweet plane. Hence the lack of urgency for the griffon spits.
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Originally posted by Sancho
which 109G was it tested against and which 190?
The 109G in the test vs. the Spit14 was a Me 109G-6/U2/R-6/R-3/N :eek: ... in other words, a G-6 with 20mm gunpods, 300 liter droptank (droptank was prob. removed for tests, don`t know for the bombrack...), with taller tail unit with improved rudder controls, and electrical equipment for blindflying.
No MW-50 injection at all, and I believe they used 1.3ata limited boost for the tests, which gave 618 km/h max. speed only. On the top, the gunpods were pretty bad for climb and manouverbility because of their weight. In brief, the worst config for the G-6 I can think of.
The 190A was a fighter-bomber A-4/U5?, the A-3 was out of service by that time. Boost limits are unknown, perhaps 1.3ata, as we speak of an A-4 and not an A-5 or A-8.
BTW, Eric Brown flew both planes.
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Originally posted by VO101_Isegrim
The 109G in the test vs. the Spit14 was a Me 109G-6/U2/R-6/R-3/N
How do you know that?
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Originally posted by Furball
How do you know that?
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Hi! Check this out:
(http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/109gtac.gif)
From:
http://www.fourthfightergroup.com/eagles/109gtacvspit14.html
I also have the report about when this plane was captured. It mislanded in the UK after a night sortie against RAF bombers, together with another 109, but that second one run out of the landing zone and crashed IIRC, and couldn`t be used in the tests.
The G-2 was also used for comparisions, but only against the Tempest, but by that time it was in very poor mechanical condition and soon become unservicable. Otherwise, yes, it`s the same "Black 6" as it`s known today. It was captured in late 1942 in North Africa, after it took some battle damage and was not repaired in time to be evacuated. Given that it was a pre-1943June plane, it is likely (that`s means 95%) that it was limited to 1.3ata only, or for 1310HP for Takeoff.
The G-2:
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/rn228.html
(http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/capt-luft/bf109/rn228-01.jpg)
The G-6/U2...etc. took it`s place, and was tested vs. Spit14, Spit9LF, Mustang III. etc. That plane too met a premature end when it crashed in November 1944:
The G-6:
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/tp814.html
(http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/capt-luft/bf109/tp814-02.jpg)
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Here are the Air ministry Numbers for captured German a/c
Allocations made at place of surrender (AM 1 to AM 123 inclusive)
am.no/type/w.nr/code & unit/fate
AM 1 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622983 - coded 4R+RB of NJG2 - scrapped?
AM 2 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.620560 - coded 4R+CB of NJG2 - struck off charge April 1946
AM 3 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622838 - coded 3C+AN of II./NJG4 - scrapped?
AM 4 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.322127 - coded BU+PP - unknown unit - fate unrecorded
AM 5 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.321523 - unknown unit - scrapped at Miles Aircraft factory in 1948
AM 6 - Junkers Ju290A-1 - W.Nr.110186 - coded A3+OB of III./KG200 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 7 - Dornier Do217M-9 - W.Nr.0040 - factory coded KF+JN - prototype - not flown to the UK, fate unknown
AM 8 - Junkers Ju352A-0 - W.Nr.100010 - coded KT+VJ of unknown unit - also coded VP550, scrapped December 1946
AM 9 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.621965 - coded 4R+DR of III./NJG2 - srapped March 1950
AM 10 - Focke-Wulf Fw190A-6/R6 - W.Nr.550214 - coded PN+LU of III./NJG11 - shipped to South Africa November 1946, on static display at South African Museum of Military History, Saxonwold
AM 11 - Focke-Wulf Ta152H-1 - W.Nr.150004 - coded 6+ of JG301? - allocated AM11 but not shipped to the UK, replaced with AM 11 below
AM 11 - Focke-Wulf Ta152H-1 - W.Nr.150168 - coded 9+ of Stab/JG301 - scrapped December 1946
AM 12 - Siebel Si204D-3 - W.Nr.351547 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 13 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.251922 - no code recorded - struck off charge November 1947
AM 14 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.620788 - coded C9+AA of NJG5 - damaged beyond repair July 1945
AM 15 - Messerschmitt Bf110G-4/R8 - W.Nr.180560 - coded 3C+BA of NJG4 - struck off charge May 1946
AM 16 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622311 - coded 3C+DA of NJG4 - fate unknown
AM 17 - Arado Ar232B-0 - W.Nr.305002 - coded A3+RB of III./KG200 - scrapped November 1945
AM 18 - Junkers Ju352A-1 - W.Nr.100015 - coded G6+WX of V./TG4 - scrapped December 1946
AM 19 - Junkers Ju252A - W.Nr.unknown - coded G6+YX of V./TG4 - scrapped Germany
AM 20 - Heinkel He219A-3 - W.Nr.290126 - coded D5+BL of I./NJG3 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 21 - Heinkel He219A-2 - W.Nr.310109 - no code recorded - unknown unit - scrapped January 1948
AM 22 - Heinkel He219A-5/R2 - W.Nr.3101089 - coded D5+CL of I./NJG3 - scrapped December 1945
AM 23 - Heinkel He219A - W.Nr.310200 - coded D5+DL og I./NJG3 - crashed at Grove, Denmark, July 1945
AM 24 - Arado Ar234B-2 - W.Nr.140466 - coded 8H+HH of AufklGr.33 - crashed at Farnborough and scrapped November 1945
AM 25 - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr.140608 - coded T9+GL of 3./Versuchsverband.d.OKL - also coded VK880, struck off charge October 1948
AM 26 - Arado Ar234B-1 - W.Nr.140476 - coded 8H+DH of AufklGr.33 - scrapped
AM 27 - Focke-Wulf Fw189A-3 - W.Nr.0173 - coded 3X+AA of unknown unit - scrapped 1947
AM 28 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.221558 - coded BJ+90 of unknown unit - struck off charge August 1947
AM 29 - Focke-Wulf Fw190F-8/U1 - w.Nr.584219 - "Black 38" of unknown unit - static display RAF Museum, Henson
AM 30 - Messerschmitt Bf110G-4/R3 - W.Nr.730037 - coded D5+DK of I./NJG3 - scrapped December 1946
AM 31 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.623193 - coded C9+HB of NJG5 - scrapped November 1946
AM 32 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622960 - coded +VH of unknown unit - crashed on landing October 1945
AM 33 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622186 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 34 - Messerschmitt Bf110G-4/R6 - W.Nr.730301 - coded D5+RL of I./NJG3 - static display RAF Museum at Hendon
AM 35 - Junkers Ju188D-2 - W.Nr.150245 - no code recorded - shipped to the US and became FE-1597/T2-1597. Presumed scrapped 1946.
AM 36 - Focke-Wulf Fw190F-8/U1 - W.Nr.580058 - coded "55" of unknown unit - not delivered to UK
AM 37 - Focke-Wulf Fw190S-1 - W.Nr.582044 - coded "54" of unknown unit - crashed November 1945
AM 38 - Messerschmitt Bf110G-4/R8 - W.Nr.180551 - coded D5+DM of II./NJG3 - not shipped to the UK
AM 39 - Messerschmitt Me410A-1/U2 - W.Nr.420439 - no code recorded - not shipped to the UK
AM 40 - Focke-Wulf Fw190F-8/U1 - W.Nr.580392 - coded "51" of unknown unit - not shipped to the UK
AM 41 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622054 - coded 7J+OV of NJG102 - not shipped to the Uk, replaced with AM41 below
AM 41 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622461 - coded 7J+CV of NJG102 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 42 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.251147 - coded 7J+XL of NJG102 - scrapped
AM 43 - Heinkel He219A-2 - W.Nr.unknown - no code recorded - scrapped?
AM 44 - Heinkel He219A-2 - W.Nr.310106 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 45 - Junkers Ju188A-2 - W.Nr.180485 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 46 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.unknown - no code recorded - scapped December 1948
AM 47 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.620968 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 48 - Junkers Ju88G-6 - W.Nr.622811 - coded 3C+MN of II./NJG4 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 49 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.251104 - coded D5+OM of II./NJG3 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 50 - Messerschmitt Me262B-1a/U1 - coded "Red 8" of IV./NJG11 - static display South African Museum of Military History, Saxonwold
AM 51 - Messerschmitt Me262A-2a - W.Nr.112372 - coded "Yellow 7" of I./JG7 - static display Aerospace Museum at Cosford
AM 52 - Messerschmitt Me262A-2a - W.Nr.500210 - coded "Yellow 17" of I./JG7 - shipped to Canada and scrapped 1947
AM 53 - Bucker Bu180 - W.Nr.unknown - unknown - possible mistake, could have been Me262B W.Nr.111980
AM 54 - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr.140113 - coded F1+AA of KG76 - struck off charge October 1948
AM 55 - Siebel Si204D-1 - W.Nr.321288 - no code recorded - struck off charge October 1948
AM 56A - Siebel Si204D - W.Nr.251190 - no code recorded - possible duplication of AM 56 above
AM 57 - Junkers Ju290A-2 - W.Nr.110157 - coded 9V+BK of 2./studmuffinr.5 - scrapped 1950
AM 58 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120221 - unknown code of JG1 - allocated serial VH526 used for spares and scrapped December 1946
AM 59 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120076 - coded "Yellow 4" of JG1 - allocated serail VH523, shipped to Canada and on static display at the Canadian national Aeronautical Collection, Ottawa
AM 60 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120074 - coded "White 11" of JG1 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 61 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120072 - no code recorded of JG1 - crashed November 1945
AM 62 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120086 - no code recorded of JG1 - stored Canada
AM 63 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120095 - no code recorded of JG1 - struck off charge August 1947
AM 64 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120097 - no code recorded of JG1 - allocated VN153, scrapped December 1946
AM 65 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120227 - no code recorded of JG1 - allocated VN679, on static display at RAF Museum Hendon
AM 66 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120091 - no code recorded of JG1 - fate unknown
AM 67 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.120098 - no code recorded of JG1 - allocated VH513, scrapped 1946
AM 68 - Heinkel He162A-2 - W.Nr.unknown - no code recorded of JG1 - static display Imperial War Museum, London
AM 69 - Blohm und Voss Bv138 - W.Nr.unknown - unknown code of unknown unit - possible AM S-1, AM S-2 or AM S-3 - fate not known
AM 70 - Blohm und Voss Bv138C-1 - W.Nr.0310081 - unknown code of FA 125 - allocated serial VN881, scrapped October 1948
AM S-2 - Blohm und Voss Bv138B-1 - W.Nr.unknown - coded "B" of unknown unit - allocated serial VK895, struck off charge January 1948
AM 71 - Blohm und Voss Bv138 - W.Nr.unknown - unknown code of unknown unit - possible AM S-1, AM S-2 or AM S-3 - fate not known
AM 72 - Messerschmitt Me410A-1/U2 - W.Nr.420430 - code & unit not recorded - static display Aerospace Museum at Cosford
AM 73 - Messerschmitt Me410A-1 - W.Nr.130360 - code and unit not recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 74 - Messerschmitt Me410B-6 - W.Nr.410208 - code and unit not recorded - scrapped December 1946
AM 75 - Junkers Ju88H-1/Focke-Wulf Fw190A-8/R6 Mistel S 3B - Ju88 W.Nr.unknown, Fw190 W.Nr.733682 - IV./KG200 - Ju88 scrapped 1945, Fw190 on static display at Imperial War Museum, London
from http://www.luftwaffe-experten.co.uk/raf-airmin.html
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AM 76 - Junkers Ju88H-1/Focke-Wulf Fw190A-8 Mistel S 3B - Both W.Nr. unknown - IV./KG200 - neither delivered to UK
AM 77 - Junkers Ju88/Focke-Wulf Fw190A Mistel S 3A - Ju88 W.Nr.2492, Fw190 W.Nr.733759 - IV./KG200 - both scrapped
AM 78 - allocation untraced
AM 79 - Messerschmitt Me262A - W.Nr.unknown - code & unit unknown - not flown to the UK
AM 80 - Messerschmitt Me262A-1 - W.Nr.111690 - coded "White 5" of I./JG7 - shipped to Canada and scrapped circa 1949
AM 81 - Messerschmitt Me262A-2a - W.Nr.500200 - coded 9K+XK "Black X" of II./KG51 - in store Mitchell Annex, Australia
AM 82 - Junkers Ju86P - W.Nr.5132 - coded T5+PM of Aufkl.Gr.100 - written off August 1945
AM 83 - Junkers Ju388L-1/V6 - W.Nr.500006 - coded PE+IF and "6" of unknown unit - scrapped 1948
AM 84 - Messerschmitt Bf108B - W.Nr.1547 - coded GJ+AU of unknown unit - fate unknown
AM 85 - Messerschmitt Bf110G-5/R1 - W.Nr.420031 - no code recorded - struck off charge August 1947
AM 86 - Messerschmitt Bf110G - W.Nr.unknown - no details recorded - possible not delivered to UK
AM 87 - Messerschmitt Bf108D-1 - W.Nr.3059 - coded VE+LI of unknown unit - exported to US circa 1968
AM 88 - Messerschmitt Bf110 - W.Nr.unknown - code not known - possible not shipped to UK
AM 89 - Messerschmitt Bf108B-1 - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit not known - fate unknown
AM 90 - Arado Ar196A - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - not shipped to the UK
AM 91 - Arado Ar196A-5 - W.Nr.127 - code and unit unknown - allocated serial VM748 and scrapped November 1947
AM 92 - Arado Ar196A-5 - W.Nr.514 - code and unit unknown - allocated serial VM761 and scrapped November 1947
AM 93 - Arado Ar199 - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - not shipped to the UK
AM 94 - Focke-Wulf Fw200C-4/U1 - W.Nr.176 - Himmlers personal aircraft coded GC+AE and "5" - scrapped December 1946
AM 95 - Focke-Wulf Fw200C - W.Nr.unknown - code unconfirmed - possible Fw200C-4/U1, W.Nr.0240 coded TK+CV and "1" which was Hitlers personal transport - not flown to the UK
AM 96 - Focke-Wulf Fw200C - W.Nr.0111 - coded D-ASVX Thuringen "1" of DLH - scrapped 1948
AM 97 - Focke-Wulf Fw200C - W.Nr.0181 - coded GC+SJ and "8" - used for spares
AM 98 - allocation untraced
AM 99 - Fieseler Fi156C-7 - W.Nr.475099 - coded VD+TD of unknown unit - shipped to South Africa and allocated SAAF serial No.200. possible airworthy today
AM 100 - Fieseler Fi156C - W.Nr.2008 - coded CV+KB of unknown unit - scrapped August 1947
AM 101 - Fieseler Fi156C-7 - W.Nr.475081 - coded RR+KE of unknown unit - static display Aerospace Museum at Cosford
AM 102 - Junkers Ju52/3m - W.Nr.6840 - D-AKUA of DLH - scrapped March 1948
AM 103 - Junkers Ju52/3m - W.Nr.6567 - D-AGAC of DLH - scrapped March 1948
AM 104 - Junkers Ju52/3m - W.Nr.641038 - D-AUAV of DLG - scrapped 1947/8
AM 105 - Dornier Do217M - W.Nr.unknown - not shipped to the UK
AM 106 - Dornier Do217M-1 - W.Nr.56527 - coded U5+HK of I./KG2 - scrapped December 1946
AM 107 - Dornier Do217M-1 - W.Nr.56158 - coded U5+?? of KG2 - scrapped December 1955
AM 108 - Junkers Ju188A-1 - W.Nr.230776 - code and unit not recorded - scrapped circa 1947
AM 109 - Junkers Ju352A - W.Nr.unknown - coded G6+RX of V./TG4 - scrapped December 1946
AM 110 - Junkers Ju352A - W.Nr.unknown - coded G6+SX of V./TG4 - scrapped
AM 111 - Focke-Wulf Fw190F-8/R15 - W.Nr.unknown - uncoded - scrapped 1948?
AM 112 - Junkers Ju88A-6/U - W.Nr.0660 - coded 1H+MN of II./KG26 - scrapped November 1947
AM 113 - Junkers Ju188A-2 - W.Nr.190327 - coded 1H+GT of III./KG26 - scrapped November 1947
AM 114 - Dornier Do24T - W.Nr.1135 - unknown code of SNG 81 - scrapped November 1947
AM 115 - Dornier Do24T-3 - W.Nr.unknown - unknown code of KG200 - allocated serial VM483 sank October 1945
AM 116 - Dornier Do24T - W.Nr.3435 - coded VH+JM of SNG 81 - allocated serial VN870, scrapped November 1947
AM 117 - Focke-Wulf Fw58C-2/U6 - W.Nr.2093 - coded TE+BK of Ekdo.40 - scrapped December 1946
AM 118 - allocation untraced
AM 119 - Siebel Si104A - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - crashed November 1945
AM 120 - Arado Ar96B - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - struck off charge May 1947
AM 121 - Bucker Bu181 - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - unknown
AM 122 - Bucker Bu181C-3 - W.Nr.120417 - code and unit unknown - civilian registration cancelled cira 1950
AM 123 - Arado Ar96B - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - struck off charge May 1947
AM 124 - Messerschmitt Bf108 - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - unknown
AM GD1 - Junkers Ju52/3m - W.Nr.5375 - code and unit unknown - unknown
AM GD - Siebel Si204D - W.Nr.unknown - code and unit unknown - unknown
Allocations made at RAE Farnborough (AM200 onwards)
AM 200 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191329 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 201 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191330 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped March 1946
AM 202 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191915 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped March 1946
AM 203 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.310061 - coded "Yellow 13" of JG400 - handed over to the French, fate unknown
AM 204 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191454 - coded "Yellow 11" of JG400 - shipped to Canada, scrapped circa 1957
AM 205 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191905 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 206 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191902 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 207 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191461 - unknown code of JG400 - static display at Aerospace Museum at Cosford
AM 208 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191912 - unknown code of JG400 - fate unrecorded
AM 209 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191315 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 210 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191316 - coded "Yellow 6" of JG400
AM 211 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191095 - unknown code of JG400 - static display Canadian War Museum
AM 212 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191965 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 213 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191954 - unknown code of JG400 - fate unknown
AM 214 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191660 - unknown code of JG400 - static display Iperial War Museum, Duxford
AM 215 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191659 - coded "Yellow 15" of JG400 - static display Royal Scottish Museum of Flight
AM 216 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191309 - unknown code of JG400 - fate unrecorded
AM 217 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191917 - unknown code of JG400 - fate unrecorded
AM 218 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191654 - scrapped August 1947
AM 219 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191904 - coded "25" of JG400 - static display Luftwaffe Museum, Oldenburg
AM 220 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191914? - unknown code of JG400 - static display CNAC, Rockcliffe, Canada
AM 221 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191961 - unknown code of JG400 - scrapped August 1947
AM 222 - Messerschmitt Me163B - W.Nr.191907 - unknown code of JG400 - static display/store Australian War Memorial, Canberra
AM 223 - Dornier Do335A-12 - W.Nr.240112 - no codes or unit - crashed January 1946
AM 225 - Dornier Do335A-1 - W.Nr.unknown - no codes or unit - scrapped December 1946
AM 226 - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr.140336 - unknown code of II./KG76 - fate unknown
AM 227 to AM 229 - all Arado Ar234's but AM numbers to W.Nr. are unknown
AM ??? - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr.140141 - unknown code of 1(F)/Aufkl.Gr.123 - fate unknown
AM ??? - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr.140493 - unknown code of 1./studmuffinr.1 - fate unknown
AM ??? - Arado Ar234B - W.Nr140581 - unknown code of 1(F)/Aufkl.Gr.123 - fate unknown
AM 229 - Messerschmitt Bf109G-14 - W.Nr.413601 - coded "Black 7" of unknown unit - fate unrecorded
AM 230 - Focke-Wulf Fw190A-8D/NL - W.Nr.171747 - coded "13" on rudder on ferry flight to JG26 - fate not recorded
AM 231 - Junkers Ju88G-1 - W.Nr.712273 - coded 4R+UR of III./NJG2 - fate not recorded
AM 232 - allocation untraced
AM 233 - Focke-Achgelis Fa223E - W.Nr.V14 - coded DM+SR - allocated serial VM479, crashed October 1945