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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hazed- on April 27, 2003, 10:36:09 AM
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I know it might be a waste of resources adding another aircraft to AH1 when you must be busy making AH2 models BUT I really feel that old feeling in AH at the moment.The beginnings of burnout where you havent got anything new to try.
Im not unhappy with AH as it is, Im happy about AH2 and how it sounds and I look forward to it.I am however feeling the need for something new to fly or drive and i worry that waiting until later this year for AH2 is going to be too long to wait.
Would it be an impossible request to ask for maybe one one, or if we truelly blessed ;) 2 aircraft/vehicles between now and the AH2 release? would it be possible to make a small update to tide us over into the new AH2?
if this isnt possible could i just ask for some pics of any new stuff from AH2 to keep the interest going? :)
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I'd rather just a few screenshots every couple of weeks to keep the interest alive than waste time and resources on AHI. A few news bulletins would be nice it just feels like waiting for the unknown.
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A Ki-84 would be nice since it would presumably be competative in the MA :)
I think the main problem isn't lack of updates; I think it's lack of updates to the MA-competative equipment--particularly fighters. We haven't had a top-5 fighter added to AH since the LA7 was added. We haven't had a heavy bomber added since the LANC. The most recent updates have sort of ignored the MA planeset in favor of filling out the historical/event planesets, which causes some stagnation to set in (this is especially bad since there is but one MA, so variety is already limited).
Filling out the historical planeset is fine, but honestly, what is more important--something that'll be used in a scenario maybe 1 or 2 times a year, or something that'll be used thousands of times a week?
Unfortunately with so much of HTC's work being focused on the ToD aspect of AH2, I fear that the MA may continue to be neglected. The term that was used in AW was "maintenance mode", and I wonder if the MA is being treated as such.
J_A_B
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Just let them work..
In the meantime, shoot stuff and drink cheap beer..
Works for me.
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speaking from the perspective of the most addicted player in aces high I hope HTC notices,
even I'm getting burned out playing AH... and I thought that was impossible.
hopefully HTC adds in some more uber planes or somthing.
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One tiny little update.... make a GV arena and make it the ONLY place you can play Treadheads High.
No GV's in any other arena, no aircraft in the GV arena.
That'd satisfy me for a long time. :D
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Originally posted by Citabria
even I'm getting burned out playing AH... and I thought that was impossible.
Dude, you play more AH in six months than I've played in three years. The amazing thing isn't that you're getting burned out... it's that you didn't burn out a long, long, long time ago.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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yup
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if one of them would just spend 30 mins once every 2 weeks to give us a lttle info i would be more than happy... but nothing is just a bit rude..
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
if one of them would just spend 30 mins once every 2 weeks to give us a lttle info i would be more than happy... but nothing is just a bit rude..
I agree.
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Originally posted by SELECTOR
if one of them would just spend 30 mins once every 2 weeks to give us a lttle info i would be more than happy... but nothing is just a bit rude..
I agree
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I hope this sim doesn't go belly-up..Its the best thing in my life right now-sad-very sad...
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Don't worry about that, nobody things AH is going to go belly-up.
J_A_B
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Thnx for posting this thread guys... I was thinking it was just me being burned out and starting to wonder about the monthly cost (not inconsiderable here in NZ)!
and thats after 3 - 4 years in this and air warrior.
we do need some little upgrade and a Ki-84 would be just the ticket.
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Your not alone gents. Even old daddog has a touch of the burnout. It is tough writing events and keeping them new.
I would be quite pleased some screen shots or some new info about AH II, this has been a long wait between updates. I certainly hope they don’t do it again once AH II is out. :)
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Bah Humbug.
I know the feeling though - I've found myself in the hangar staring at the aircraft list and then going "naaaaaaah" and logging.
Try flying the Il2 if you want that "Oh my god I'm gonna die!" feeling.
palef
Edit: PS Famin - it's 5-6 years - we started late '97 in AWIII Ithink
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requests not work:(
mby like this
HT we dont wont u to keep us informing about AH2!!!!!!!!!
Pls don't spam us thousends of new screenshot's!!!
We dont wont to heore any news from Pyro!!!!
We have enough reading AH2 news
We dont care how great game u create now, FB is much better and u never beat them.
We dont need good relationship between comunity and HTC crews like we have before relase AH 1.XX.
We not care anymore
ramzey:D :D :D
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I also find that a break is better then any updates that AH might be able to bring out and personally I'd rather see other changes/updates then another early war plane that just ends up sitting in the hanger anyway. I mean, look how long people wanted the JU87 and now you'd be lucky to see one.
Personally AH for me is starting to gather dust rather quickly and I'm looking forward to AH2. In the meantime try something like Nascar 2003 Racing as I have and it's starting to eat away a rather large chunk of my AH time..
The graphics are amazing, the action is constant and imo alot better then the best furballs you'll ever have in AH. Plus when your good you can try multiplayer.
Not to mention the sound of those 750 ponies. Check it out.
http://games.sierra.com/games/racing2003/
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<--- currently taking a months leave in WW2OL (apart from AH special events).
WW2OL is still a pile of buggy code, an I'm not really flying - just infantry and tanks.
I too have AH burnout. But would AH2 screenshots help? Nah. Its just game burnout, I needed something other than air 2 air.
But I do think the paying customerbase needs a little carrot thrown in front of it.
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01-28-2003 02:47 PM
Pyro
Administrator
Aces High II Press Release
HiTech Creations Announces a New Revolution in Online Combat Simulation - Aces High II: Tour of Duty
It's been 3 months to the day. A screenshot or twenty at least would be nice. A patch to fix a couple of bugs (de-tracked Tiger comes to mind) would be wonderful. Both would be bliss.
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I don't think the odd plane here or
there will make much of a difference
to AH1. I think it needs more in the
way of strategy to make teamwork
more critical (and easier to organise).
I.e. more of a continuing war feel than
just capture the flag. I'd rather HTC
spent time putting that into AH2 than
a few planes into AH1. I'd be happy
with more strategy, and more immersive
graphics in AH2, and no new planes
at all to begin with.
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For as long as I've been here (2+ years), we've had to plead and prod HTC for screenshots/news updates on how the latest version is coming along. That aspect of community management just doesn't seem to be very high on their list of priorities.
It strikes me as bad business, but what do I know? It's probably unfair to expect a company to be good at everything. Maybe their role model is an absentee landlord. ;)
For now, I'll just have to take it as it is. AH is the best MMOL flight sim ever, it's currently in maintenance mode, and it could be another 3-6 months before we hear or see anything of it's successor. Summer's almost here so I can keep myself busy with other stuff.
Peace out :cool:
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The Lag has been real bad lately in the MA. 3 -ship bomber formations come to mind..maybe they've put off AHII development and have been working on that-or maybe they whole office is busy playing Forgoten Battles like the rest of us. 3 months after the announcement and nothing at all to SHOW???
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Oboe - perhaps they don't post news much, but they've more than made up for it with releasing a new version every 3 months. How many games can claim the same? I'd rather have not much news about a definite advance, rather than lots of news about 'promises'. Sadly, the latter case is often found in the games industry and the online flightsim department specifically.
Furthermore, after all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the last few screenshots during recent version releases, perhaps they'd rather wait until they had something polished and concrete to reveal. A progress update would be welcome, however.
Lastly, talk of HTC going 'belly up' is at best premature, at worst hysterical. The sky is not falling in - of that I'm sure.
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cc I hear ya, Dowding. Especially about the "promises" part. False news (or promises) are worse than no news.
Yes, its too bad we whine for screenshots, and then whine about what we get. Certainly its true every plane has its proponents and opponents, and often it gets pretty vocal. I know I got pretty bent out of shape about the Ki.84. But, I'm better now. :)
In all though, I think I'd rather be kept more up-to-date about whats going on with the sim, rather than left wondering like this. But perhaps that's not realistic, for reasons I don't know (or would understand). News updates are a fine art, too. I know the ones WBs provided had a real cut and paste feel after a while. Lots of text, but they didn't really provide alot of new insight or info. Maybe that's changed now. Pyro's have always been very good, when he does them.
PS. I also agree rumor's of HTC's demise are ridiculous.
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False news already came in the form of having a mission based MA for version 1.11. I hope having AHII ready for open-beta for 3rd quarter 2003 is not also.
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HT & crew are AWOL ....
skuzzy has placed auto responders on their emails...
timers on the servers to hard boot (reset) every 24hrs ...
while they work on their tans in Aruba :)
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Everybody shutup an' fly!
There, got that off my chest. I feel better. Thank you all. Good night.
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even a fake update would be nice...
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I would like to see more support craft and bombers added. I think the bombing aspect of AH has evaporated since they added the calibration requirement. Changing the one gunner limit on bombers would be interesting too. Some planes/vehicles I would like to see:
B-24 Liberator
ME-165 Gigant (as a perked 3x capacity cargo plane mebbe :) )
PBY Catalina
B-25 Mitchell with nose cannons
T-34 Tanks
And some Jeeps fer crying out loud, they were only the most mass produced vehicle of the war...
My Two Cents
RX
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but what would we use jeeps for unless you want us to drive them from the tower to the hanger taxi to the end of the runway THEN take off...
though changing it so you could have a huge number of gunners in your bomber form would be really cool...
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Originally posted by vorticon
but what would we use jeeps for unless you want us to drive them from the tower to the hanger taxi to the end of the runway THEN take off...
To run supplies or mebbe mount a couple .50 cals in the back for fast defense, or even to scale those unscalable VH spawns in Trinity :p
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Apparently they are currently working on the GFX engine coding, I can understand one would not want to show that kind of "work in progress", I know I wouldn't untill it's in it's final stages.
A little text update would be a nice and welcome bone to throw at us though :)
OTOH, what are those two lazy gits (supafly& nategod) up to? :D
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I not a programmer but I'm curious? Do you go out and buy a GFX engine or something? How much would somthing like that cost for an application like AH? I guess people like SuperFly do the Art, Hitech takes a GFX engine-adds code and SuperFly's Art and Bam-you got somthing like AH? Is that about right??
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You can build your own I guess (tedious) most games buy the engine (quake, unreal, etc...). There are also a few engines out that are not initially used for games per se. Am not talking for HT though, I haven't got a clue :)
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Warbirds II used an engine by Trey Smith of Graphic Simulations Corporation (they did an F18 sim I think) Don't know if HT did the engine for AH or bought it.
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I hope the new GFX engine uses OpenGL instead if directX, so it can be ported to Linux ;)
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Originally posted by Saintaw
You can build your own I guess (tedious) most games buy the engine (quake, unreal, etc...). There are also a few engines out that are not initially used for games per se. Am not talking for HT though, I haven't got a clue :)
AFAIK AH uses its own engine, by HiTech.
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Originally posted by ccvi
I hope the new GFX engine uses OpenGL instead if directX, so it can be ported to Linux ;)
I'd rather it didn't. iEN seems to struggle to support two formats and HTC's team is just as small. By sticking with Windows and DirectX we've benefited over the likes of Warbirds and WW2OL with faster development and the neat bells and whistles like the built in comms that is part of DirectX as well as the updated graphics effects. Would HTC benefit from a Linux version? I have my doubts. Out of the smaller number of Linux users, how many are gamers and how many of those are not running Linux on a partition alongside Windows anyway?
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What I don't like about Warbirds is the Cartoon textures that we see in the Terrain, and FlightModels. Everything is just so damn bright and unrealistic....a bit like IL2 really but WB's is much worse. Is that the Engines fault? If so the best Engine I've seen is StrikeFighters! The Textures are just so life-like. With all its faults I admire the visuals in that game. Better than FB's and as good as I've seen in LockOn. The sim itself is just a skeleton-you get the engine, some fm's, crappy terrain and campaign-a Moders wet dream really.