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Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Syzygyone on April 29, 2003, 10:03:48 AM
In todays NY TImes, the following quote is presented:

"In discussing the Buchanan slaying, Detective Boyle said, Mr. Malvo was amused by the fact that "after he shot the man, the lawn mower just kept going down the street."

So, should this "kid" get the death penalty?

Just want to hear some opinions.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: AWMac on April 29, 2003, 10:08:04 AM
IMHO they both earned the right to fry!

:D
Title: Re: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Curval on April 29, 2003, 10:12:01 AM
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
So, should this "kid" get the death penalty?


Only after he has been in a cell with a bull queer who could teach him the meaning of respect for a few years.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Eagler on April 29, 2003, 10:14:27 AM
if he shouldn't - nobody should
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Ripsnort on April 29, 2003, 10:16:19 AM
Death, Russian-style (Little hole in the cell door for a pistol barrel to protrude thru..., you never know which day you're going to get it....)
Title: Hehehe - Crew Cut
Post by: Syzygyone on April 29, 2003, 10:23:43 AM
If he had done this in Iraq, before he was "fried" he would get run over by the whirling blades of the very same lawn mower!  Or maybe he would have got a promotion.:eek: :eek:
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: OIO on April 29, 2003, 11:38:12 AM
use him for aids research.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Dingbat on April 29, 2003, 12:54:53 PM
surgically remove a peice of his body little by little, till all that's left is a head and torso, then give him to the families
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Mini D on April 29, 2003, 01:00:35 PM
Why do threads like this always turn into "let's come up with newer more creatively gross ways to kill someone!"

Sheesh.

Eventually some may grasp the concept that placing a value on the haneousness of a crime will serve to inspire for the creation of bigger and better crimes.  Treating the most vile criminals cassually by the letter of the law (exectution in this case) without any more regard introduces a clinical aspect.  You do this and you will die.  No emotion, no celebration, just death.

MiniD
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: slimm50 on April 29, 2003, 01:13:39 PM
Fortunately, MiniD, normal people are emotional. The crimes of these two (fill-in-the-blank)s affected almost every thinking person across teh country. It's no surprise to me tha retribution is sought gleefully by so many, including myself.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Martlet on April 29, 2003, 03:45:58 PM
his lawyers are doing a fairly good job, though.  They are attempting to get the confession dismissed, since he didn't have a lawyer present during questioning.
Title: Have you ever
Post by: Syzygyone on April 29, 2003, 03:49:34 PM
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Originally posted by Martlet
his lawyers are doing a fairly good job, though.  They are attempting to get the confession dismissed, since he didn't have a lawyer present during questioning.


Have you ever seen a defense counsel not try to get a confession dismissed?  Malvo said, when asked if he understood his rights, that the would say when he didn't want to tell the detective something.  Seems like waiver to me!
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Mini D on April 29, 2003, 04:03:38 PM
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Originally posted by slimm50
Fortunately, MiniD, normal people are emotional. The crimes of these two (fill-in-the-blank)s affected almost every thinking person across teh country. It's no surprise to me tha retribution is sought gleefully by so many, including myself.
Fortunately?

Nah... I'm not denying the emotional aspect.  I'm saying that sentancing based on it is ludicrous.  I'm saying that emotion and the courtroom do not mix.  It is because of public sentiment and emotion that the death penalty has become what it is.  Now, its a political tool used by DAs to get re-elected, senators to get elected or governers to get elected.  Haneous somehow makes it more justifiable and the executioner somehow more noble.

I'm sorry, but there is no nobility to it.  There is no redemption in wishing haneousness on someone else.  There is no honor in spewing forth the type of bile that I see in virtually every thread of the same type of subject.  It is discracefull to say the least.

Damn... half the guys getting sentanced to death would be able to get off if they could use emotion as an excuse in the same manner you are right now.

MiniD
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Syzygyone on April 29, 2003, 04:14:11 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Fortunately?

I'm saying that emotion and the courtroom do not mix.  

I'm sorry, but there is no nobility to it.  There is no redemption in wishing haneousness on someone else.  There is no honor in spewing forth the type of bile that I see in virtually every thread of the same type of subject.  It is discracefull to say the least.

MiniD


MiniD;
If you think emotion has nothing to do with courtroom convictions, then you are sadly, sadly deluded!  And, people like Malvo deserve neither nobility nor honor, and they also don't deserve to die peacefully and quietly!
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Martlet on April 29, 2003, 04:16:07 PM
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Originally posted by Syzygyone
MiniD;
If you think emotion has nothing to do with courtrrom convictions, then you are sadly, sadly deluded!  And, people like Malvo deserve neither nobility nor nobility, and they also don't deserve to die peacefully and quietly!


With much emotion, I gleefully await their execution.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Mini D on April 29, 2003, 04:16:31 PM
Sigh...

I never said emotion didn't have anything to do with them.

I'm saying that the attitude of "let's kill him even worse" is pathetic at best.  Any support of it is inexcusable.  If you want to use emotions as an excuse for stupid behavior, then you'd better allow "criminals" to use it too.

Nothing better than watching grown men turn a death sentance into some kind of game. :rolleyes:

MiniD
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: 2Slow on April 29, 2003, 04:17:52 PM
"So, should this "kid" get the death penalty? "

Penalty!!!  I hear this all the time.  This ain't no game, there is a flag on the field,"Unlawfull taking of anothers life!"

It is punishment, plain and simple.

Fry him, gas him, drug him.  Game over.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: hawk220 on April 29, 2003, 04:23:28 PM
I agree with Eagler.. if this punk doesn't qualify for the death penalty, then no one does.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Syzygyone on April 29, 2003, 04:24:26 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Sigh...

I never said emotion didn't have anything to do with them.

If you want to use emotions as an excuse for stupid behavior, then you'd better allow "criminals" to use it too.

Nothing better than watching grown men turn a death sentance into some kind of game. :rolleyes:

MiniD


And you don't think criminal's use emotion.  Do you know what the penalty phase of a capital prosecution is? At all?  You think it is not an emotional plea for a murdering son of a squeak to put on evidence that he was a good child, who baby sat his younger sister for nothing, and fixed a birds' wing once, and was always nice to animals and did well in sports.  

Sheesh, MiniD, what galaxy do you live  in.   It sure isn't the real world!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Mini D on April 29, 2003, 05:25:50 PM
Damn... its like it is contageous right now.

Dude... shut the **** up.  Pure and simple.

You are actually trying to excuse "no... we should kill him even more"?  I mean seriously... read the two posts before mine.  Did you do that?

The merrits of the death penalty in this case are one thing.  New and creative death penalties are an entirely different subject.

Jeez... its like someone handed out 3rd grader pills to half the posters today.

MiniD
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: senna on April 29, 2003, 05:28:28 PM
If he didnt pull the trigger he should get a lighter sentence then some serious counseling. Thats one f!ked up kid.

Ehem
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: midnight Target on April 29, 2003, 05:44:04 PM
OK, I'll bite.

I think the Kid may have been in the control of Mohammad. Hadn't they been living and traveling together for years? This means the kid may have been in his early teens when he hooked up with Mohammad. I have also heard that Mohammad controlled his food as well as his activities. Good case for brainwashing.

Give him LWPP.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Martlet on April 29, 2003, 06:06:40 PM
Fine.  Just put him in a California STATE Penitentiary so he can live off your tax dollar.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: type_char on April 29, 2003, 06:28:39 PM
Fine give him alot of time first like 100 years.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Drunky on April 29, 2003, 07:56:13 PM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Eventually some may grasp the concept that placing a value on the haneousness of a crime will serve to inspire for the creation of bigger and better crimes.  Treating the most vile criminals cassually by the letter of the law (exectution in this case) without any more regard introduces a clinical aspect.  You do this and you will die.  No emotion, no celebration, just death.


Did Mini D just have an emotional moment *sniff*
Title: Just send him down...
Post by: rpm on April 29, 2003, 08:52:01 PM
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We'll squeeze him in.
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Dingbat on April 30, 2003, 07:54:57 AM
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Originally posted by Mini D
Why do threads like this always turn into "let's come up with newer more creatively gross ways to kill someone!"

Sheesh.

Eventually some may grasp the concept that placing a value on the haneousness of a crime will serve to inspire for the creation of bigger and better crimes.  Treating the most vile criminals cassually by the letter of the law (exectution in this case) without any more regard introduces a clinical aspect.  You do this and you will die.  No emotion, no celebration, just death.

MiniD


Try living a mile from one of the shootings and tell me that I have no right to glorify these *******s deaths.  Mini D I see you still bash people for there opinions.  I guess thats why u are a fat drunk bastage hiding from reality.  go eat some more cheetos, tard
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: AWMac on April 30, 2003, 08:14:59 AM
Ohhhh poor lil teenager who didn't know "right from wrong".. I guess it was a game. If I shoot someone in the head they don't really die. Ohhh I'm sooo caught up in emotion MiniD, maybe we should send the lil Phuck to therapy and once he's okay let him loose to play another game....   Get real MiniD, tard!


:D
Title: John Lee Malvo - What to do....
Post by: Toad on April 30, 2003, 08:29:42 AM
MiniD is right.

This guy deserves nothing special because he's no more special than dog sh t sticking to the heel of society's shoe.

Scrape him off without fanfare and let's be on our way.