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Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: ygsmilo on April 29, 2003, 04:46:05 PM

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=politicsNews&storyID=2651487

Title: Sounds fine to me...
Post by: GtoRA2 on April 29, 2003, 04:48:32 PM

It would help the Iraqi people to get back on their feet.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Toad on April 29, 2003, 04:51:05 PM

It's one of the things they were afraid of from the very beginning and thus the opposition.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: WineMan on April 29, 2003, 04:53:57 PM

As I understand it, there is some considerable debate about whether to use "odious debt" or not.  The problem lies in which governments qualify...  Would China or Iran qualify, for example?

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Drunky on April 29, 2003, 06:08:28 PM

I'm not sure that it's our (the US) decision despite what congress might think.

Let's not forget that Iraq has plenty of oil (which translates into lots of money) so let's not treat them like a pauper 3rd world country.

I'm not on Russia's or France's side.  Quite the opposite.  I think these countries and their leaders are guilty of violating UN sanctions and should be held accountable.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Fishu on April 30, 2003, 04:55:03 AM

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Originally posted by Drunky
I think these countries and their leaders are guilty of violating UN sanctions and should be held accountable.

Did you realise those are debts from even before first gulf war?
There was no sanctions back then :>

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Naso on April 30, 2003, 05:12:03 AM

"Odious debt"......

I like the idea.

I will start to petition my "joke" prime minister to hate all the country we have debts with.

mmmm.....

Do you think I can apply the principle to my bank?

:D

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: OIO on April 30, 2003, 09:08:51 AM

Fishu, I think he meant the alleged dealings in items after the first gulf war by those countries.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Boroda on April 30, 2003, 01:19:01 PM

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Originally posted by Fishu
Did you realise those are debts from even before first gulf war?
There was no sanctions back then :>

More  to say, significant part of Iraqi debt to USSR was made even before Saddam Hussein...

Most of it are payments for oil equipment and other civilian contracts.

How about forgiving us all the USSR debts, taken by "evil communists"?

I doubt that Russian government thought we will get any of that debts back. But we like the practical way of thinking, the idea to free your puppets from debt is nice American free market and capitalism. Looks like USSR/Russia payed for the equipment that will be used to pump oil for American corporations.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Mini D on April 30, 2003, 01:36:02 PM

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Originally posted by Boroda
Most of it are payments for oil equipment and other civilian contracts.

LOL! You're a funny guy baroda.  I imagine some of it was those 1 million AKs that Iraq bought too, and those missiles, and those GPS jammers, and those spare tank parts, and those... well... I think you get the picture.

Oil equipment and civilian contracts.  LOL!

MiniD

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: OIO on April 30, 2003, 01:41:25 PM

Bush Say "BLACKJACK!"

(http://www.dilbert.com/editoons/bish/archive/images/bish2091462030429.jpg)

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Boroda on April 30, 2003, 01:59:26 PM

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Originally posted by Mini D
LOL! You're a funny guy baroda.  I imagine some of it was those 1 million AKs that Iraq bought too, and those missiles, and those GPS jammers, and those spare tank parts, and those... well... I think you get the picture.

Oil equipment and civilian contracts.  LOL!

MiniD

Do you have acsess to Soviet Foreign Trade Ministry archives?...

Million Kalashnikovs? What I see in the news are mostly Romanian and other non-Soviet copies.

GPS jammers?! Any of them found? Please think before you post.

Spare parts for Polish and Chinese tanks are hard to buy in Russia. BTW, did you know that Iraq produced it's own version of T-72?

And once again: many debts were made even before Saddam.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Fishu on April 30, 2003, 02:10:47 PM

Boroda,

About every country 'produced' their own version of exported T-72's..

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Mini D on April 30, 2003, 02:16:23 PM

You are really funny baroda.  And I mean that in a not too flattering way.  Watching you post is like watching Dustin Hoffman in "Rain Man"... only you can't count.

MiniD

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: AKIron on April 30, 2003, 02:23:55 PM

Here's a chance for those "no war" countries to prove they have Iraq's interest at heart. Guess we'll see.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Toad on April 30, 2003, 02:28:17 PM

Probably tough to find bits of a GPS jammer after a "home on Jam" 2000 pounder arrives.  ;)

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: AKIron on April 30, 2003, 05:08:02 PM

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Originally posted by Toad
Probably tough to find bits of a GPS jammer after a "home on Jam" 2000 pounder arrives.  ;)

Maybe the Iraqis can get their money back on those? ;)

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: AKIron on April 30, 2003, 05:11:44 PM

Those GPS jammers got me to wonderin'. I know the US has a net of GPS satellites, about 24 with spares I've read. Has any other country put any GPS satellites in orbit? I'm sure we could turn ours off at will should the need arise.

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Boroda on May 04, 2003, 01:38:18 PM

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Originally posted by Toad
Probably tough to find bits of a GPS jammer after a "home on Jam" 2000 pounder arrives.  ;)

Brilliant logics.

"We didn't find any evidence that Evil Russians supplied Saddam with the means to fuc|< up our "smart weapons", and it only proves they did."

Title: Interesting,,, might upset the Russians and French
Post by: Boroda on May 04, 2003, 01:57:19 PM

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Originally posted by AKIron
Those GPS jammers got me to wonderin'. I know the US has a net of GPS satellites, about 24 with spares I've read. Has any other country put any GPS satellites in orbit? I'm sure we could turn ours off at will should the need arise.

USSR/Russia has it's own global positioning system, called GLONASS.  It's not as precise as GPS in military version, but gives much better results in Polar regions.