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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: funkedup on May 01, 2003, 01:22:20 PM
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Found this one in Keegan's History of Warfare:
"Man's greatest good fortune is to chase and defeat his enemy, seize his total possessions, leave his married women weeping and wailing, ride his gelding, and use the bodies of his women as a nightshirt and support." Genghis Khan
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I thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar said that?
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Yama Yama, tani tani!
(In every mountain, in every hill)
-Oda Nobunaga in the battle of Mount Hei
a "kill em all" order hehe.
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Originally posted by ra
I thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar said that?
"...to hear the lamentations of the women."...he he
Arnie's writers stole it...and made it better.
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"**** you squeakes! Let's get the mother-****ing sons of snail-eaters!"
Henry V
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"come on you sons of squeakes!! Do you want to live forever?"
Gunnery Sergeant Dan Daily USMC, winner of two medal of honors leading his men on a charge in Bellow wood WW1. (from memory
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"For Americans war is almost all of the time a nuisance, and military skill is a luxury like Mah-Jongg. But when the issue is brought home to them, war becomes as important, for the necessary period, as business or sport. And it is hard to decide which is likely to be the more ominous for the Axis -- an American decision that this is sport, or that it is business."
-D. W. Brogan, The American Character
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Goering;
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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Originally posted by Arfann
Goering;
"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Damn you got here faster than me :(
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:rolleyes:
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"We're neutral!"
- The Swiss
-SW
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"Don't shoot, we surrender"
Numberous French Generals in history. :)
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"Tis well that war is so horrible, least we grow to fond of it." General T. Sherman, I think.
"While it is true that no plan survives first contact with the enemy, it is equally true that no one survives first contact with the enemy without a plan." Tom Clancy, from "Red Storm Rising."
A good leader can be wrong, but what he must never be is indecisive." Me.
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"You give me a week and I'll have us in a war with those Commie Bastards and make it look like their fault!" George S. Patton
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one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic.
joe stalin
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"Merde" Cambronne.
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Nuclear war would really set back cable.
--Ted Turner
The purpose of all war is ultimately peace.
--Saint Augustine
WAR! - Huuuh - What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
--Edwin Starr
When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace.
--Jimi Hendrix (1942-1970)
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
--WOPR - In the movie "War Games"
But the best of them all is......
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mill
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Originally posted by Sabre
"Tis well that war is so horrible, least we grow to fond of it." General T. Sherman, I think.
This was actually said by Robert E. Lee.
Couple more good ones:
"When this war is over, the Japanese language will be spoken only in Hell." ("Bull" Halsey, Dec 8, 1941)
"No dumb bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won the war by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his." (Patton)
"Retreat Hell, we're just attacking in a different direction." (Korean War, Marine Sergeant, name escapes me)
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War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
--John Stuart Mill [/B]
Hmmmmmm, was he perhaps talking about the French!??:D
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"I dont know what weapons will be used in World War III, but WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones."
-Einstein (i think)
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Originally posted by ra
I thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar said that?
"Crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentations of the women."
-Conan the Barberian
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Here's a better version of the Khan's quote:
"Man's greatest good fortune is to chase and defeat his enemy, seize his total possessions, leave his married women weeping and wailing, ride his gelding, use his women as a nightshirt and support, gazing upon and kissing their rosy breasts, sucking their lips which are as sweet as the berries of their breasts."
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My submission for Great Military Quotes is:
"Nuts"
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Originally posted by Curval
My submission for Great Military Quotes is:
"Nuts"
That's the best !
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"Luke, I am your father..."
Oooops!
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"When this war is over, the Japanese language will be spoken only in Hell." ("Bull" Halsey, Dec 8, 1941)
yup thats one hell of a quote.
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Instead of trying to build newer and bigger weapons of destruction, we should be thinking about getting more use out of the ones we already have. -Jack Handey
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"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King
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"In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it."
- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel
"Be an example to your men, in your duty and in private life. Never spare yourself, and let the troops see that you don't in your endurance of fatigue and privation. Always be tactful and well-mannered and teach your subordinates to do the same. Avoid excessive sharpness or harshness of voice, which usually indicates the man who has shortcomings of his own to hide."
- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel
"One must not judge everyone in the world by his qualities as a soldier: otherwise we should have no civilization."
- Field Marshall Erwin Rommel
"I would rather he had given me one more division"
- Rommel, when Hitler made him a Field Marshall
"Romans not only easily conquered those who fought by cutting, but mocked them too. For the cut, even delivered with force, frequently does not kill, when the vital parts are protected by equipment and bone. On the contrary, a point brought to bear is fatal at two inches; for it is necessary that whatever vital parts it penetrates, it is immersed. Next, when a cut is delivered, the right arm and flank are exposed. However, the point is delivered with the cover of the body and wounds the enemy before he sees it.
... However, they are given that double-weight shield frame and foil, so that when the recruit takes up real, lighter weapons, as if freed from the heavier weight, he will fight in greater safety and faster. But when field training was ended through negligence and laxity, the equipment (which the soldiers seldom put on) began to be seen as heavy."
- Flavius Vegetius Renatus (in Epitoma Rei Militari)
"I have to follow them. I am their leader."
-Alexandre-Auguste Ledru-Rollin, Leader of the French Revolution of 1848
:rolleyes: :D
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"Retreat Hell, we're just attacking in a different direction." (Korean War, Marine Sergeant, name escapes me)
That was LtGen Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller.
GOOD NIGHT CHESTY, WHERE EVER YOU ARE!
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"There is a peculiar gratification in receiving congratulations from one's squadron for a victory in the air. It is worth more to a pilot than the applause of the whole outside world. It means that one has won the confidence of men who share the misgivings, the aspirations, the trials and the dangers of aeroplane fighting."
- Captain Edward V. "Eddie" Rickenbacker, USAS
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Originally posted by Dune
"For Americans war is almost all of the time a nuisance, and military skill is a luxury like Mah-Jongg. But when the issue is brought home to them, war becomes as important, for the necessary period, as business or sport. And it is hard to decide which is likely to be the more ominous for the Axis -- an American decision that this is sport, or that it is business."
-D. W. Brogan, The American Character
Gets my vote.
Never saw that one.. nice, Dune.
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"Rommel, you magnificent bastard! I read your book!"
-Patton
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I can't recall the exact unit, and the quote can be found in 'Panzer Battles'.
Basically it explains how a Pz. Div. and a Mot. Inf. Div., working as a 'weak' Korps and acting as a fire brigade vs. the waves of Russian spearheads moving around after Stalingrad finally fell, inflicted huge losses on the Russian forces in the area with almost no loss to themselves. They would march all thru the night and move into attack positions vs. HQ, artillery, and supply units very stealthily just before dawn. At dawn, they would attack with surprise and kill the 'guts' of the Russian unit and be gone before any help could arrive. They then hammered the (leaderless, in terms of high level HQ direction and support-less in terms of artillery support, supply, etc.) Russian Rgt./Brigade/etc. in a mobile battle when they found them.
The quote goes something like this (it's from the Kps. or one of the Div. commanders):
"Years after those battles, historians have interviewed me about those times and the one recurring question has been when the panzergrenadiers of the division actually slept. In all honesty I myself have no idea."
If you are looking for good reading on operational level combat on the Eastern front before the tide of the war had turned in the favor of the Russians for good, read that book.
Mike/wulfie
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
"Retreat Hell, we're just attacking in a different direction." (Korean War, Marine Sergeant, name escapes me)
Actually the marine who said that was General Oliver Smith. Here's a couple choice excerpts from Chesty Puller (famous marine)...
"We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."
- Chesty Puller at the Chosin Reservoir
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his artillerymen, gave them the Army position,
and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them." Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question? We're here to fight." At Koto-ri in Korea
- Chesty Puller at Koto-ri in Korea
"The mail service has been excellent out here, and in my opinion this is all that the
Air Force has accomplished during the war."
- Chesty Puller in a letter to his wife while in Korea
"Don't forget that you're First Marines! Not all the Communists in hell can overrun you!"
- Chesty Puller motivating his men at Chosin Reservoir
"Remember, whatever you write, this was no retreat. All that happened was that we found more Chinese behind us than in front of us, so we about-faced and attacked."
- Chesty Puller, USMC, speaking to reporters after the battle out of the Chosin Reservoir, Korean War
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"Quantity has a quality of its own."
- Joseph Stalin
"Arm yourselves, and be ye men of valor, and be in readiness for the conflict; for it is better for us to perish in battle than to look upon the outrage of our nation and our altar."
"Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
"We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."
-Sir Winston Churchill
"You must consider every man your enemy who speaks ill of your king; and...you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the Devil."
"May the Great God, whom I worship, grant to my Country and for the benefit of Europe in general a great and glorious victory; and may no misconduct in anyone tarnish it; and may humanity after Victory be the predominant feature of the British Fleet. For myself, individually, I commit my life to Him who made me, and may His blessing light upon my endeavours for serving my Country faithfully. To Him I resign my and the just cause which is entrusted to me to defend. Amen. Amen. Amen."
"I have only one eye, I have a right to be blind sometimes...I really do not see the signal." (Ignoring Admiral Parker's signal to retreat by holding his telescope up to his missing eye, and carrying on to victory in the Battle of Copenhagen, defeating the Danish fleet in 1801.)
"England expects the every man will do his duty."
- Lord Horatio Nelson
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"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distan.."
Last words of Union officer before being shot by a Confederate cannon (seriously).
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"Where the f**k did all these Indians come from?
-George Armstrong Custer
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Originally posted by davidpt40
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distan.."
Last words of Union officer before being shot by a Confederate cannon (seriously).
A confederate sniper actually. I was thinking of this exact same quote. Saw it on a "Tales of the Gun... Snipers" show on the history channel.
MiniD
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Dowding...if you are quoting Nelson you should really include his most famous one:
"Kiss me Hardy".;)
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Hehehe. :)
He didn't actually say that. He was grieviously wounded and was a bit on the knackered side and his words were muddied. He said:
"Kiss me? Hardly."
Hardy, being a cabin boy and very likely a fly-by-night-sailor-fluffer, was trying to take advantage of the Admiral's 'position', hence the rebuttal, which has been mis-interpretted ever since. :D
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"I have 12 jap zero's surrounded, I could use some help here"
-Lone US fighter pilot, somewhere over the pacific (not sure if this is the exact quote)
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Somewhat similar to OIO's ost above:
"I'm down here by myself ..... I'm chasing thirty 109's. I'm about to catch 'em. You'd better hurry up! It's gonna be a hell of a fight!"
Johnny Eaves ... Pilot with the 56th FG 1944
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"I've not yet begun to fight."
John Paun Jones
He said this as his ship was being sunk, he should've began to fight . He would've lived longer .
"Holy ****!"
Crew member on the Enola Gay on that faithfull day .
"I don't need a lot of men, only a few good ones."
General George Washington
"Mike Durant we will not leave you behind"
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Originally posted by Dago
"Don't shoot, we surrender"
Numberous French Generals in history. :)
I'm pissed again.
I fail to see any humour in this sentence.
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Originally posted by straffo
I'm pissed again.
I fail to see any humour in this sentence.
It wasn't posted for humor it was posted as military quotes from history :D
I bet it sucks to be french....
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"With new tactics and precision weapons, we can achieve military objectives without directing violence against civilians. No device of man can remove the tragedy from war. Yet it is a great advance when the guilty have far more to fear from war than the innocent." President George W. Bush, May 1, 2003 aboard the returning USN aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln.
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"There are no American infidels in Baghdad. Never!"
You know who... :D
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"I kept shooting and they kept falling." - Maj. George Preddy, 352nd FG, the day he shot down 6 Me 109's.
And here's a link to a website with tons of war quotes. http://www.military-quotes.com/index2.htm
Such as:
"The essence of war is violence. Moderation in war is imbecility"
-British Sea Lord John Fisher
God is always on the side of the heaviest battalions.
- Francois Voltaire
"In this country we find it pays to shoot an admiral from time to time to encourage the others"
- Voltaire (1694-1778)
Army: A body of men assembled to rectify the mistakes of the diplomats.
-Josephus Daniels
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bush is scary. did you even read that quote. its nonsense
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Veni Vidi Vici
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Originally posted by Udie
It wasn't posted for humor it was posted as military quotes from history :D
I bet it sucks to be french....
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Vader, it would appear you've missed the point President Bush was trying to make. I offer you a little more of the content of this address. Perhaps the added context will make it easier for you to understand his point. Bold type and added for clarity.
In the images of falling statues, we have witnessed the arrival of a new era. For a hundred years of war, culminating in the nuclear age, military technology was designed and deployed to inflict casualties on an ever-growing scale. In defeating Nazi Germany and imperial Japan, Allied Forces destroyed entire cities, while enemy leaders who started the conflict were safe until the final days. Military power was used to end a regime by breaking a nation.
Today, we have the greater power to free a nation by breaking a dangerous and aggressive regime. With new tactics and precision weapons, we can achieve military objectives without directing violence against civilians. No device of man can remove the tragedy from war. Yet it is a great advance when the guilty have far more to fear from war than the innocent
In simple terms, the President is saying that in this war, the Coalition targeted the regime, and not the Iraqi people. In past wars, we had to go through the people to get to the regime. He is not intimating that civilians were not hurt in Iraq (indeed, he labels it a "tragedy") only that we had the means and the tactics to minimize innocent loss of life (i.e. non-combatants). Hope that aids your understanding.
Respectfully,
Sabre
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In 1935, a French visitor asked Soviet leader Josef Stalin if he thought Pope Pius XI might prove to be an ally.
"The Pope! how many divisions has he got?"
- Stalin
"Tell my son Josef that he will meet my divisions in eternity."
- Reply from the Pope when he heard the story years later.
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"Perception is strong and sight weak. In strategy it is important to see distant things as if they were close and to take a distanced view of close things."
by Miyamoto Musashi
Success flourishes only in perseverance -ceaseless, restless perseverance. -- Baron Monfred von Richthofen
"Study strategy over the years and achieve the spirit of the warrior. Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men."
by Miyamoto Musashi
COME TO THE EDGE
Come to the edge. We might fall. Come to the edge. It's too high!
Come to the edge !
And they came, and he pushed, and they flew. -- Logue, Christopher, English poet (1926- )
"You win battles by knowing the enemy`s timing, and using a timing which the enemy does not expect."
by Miyamoto Musashi
"Be certain your Equal Time Point is not beyond your Point of No Return." unkown
"Generally speaking, the Way of the warrior is resolute acceptance of death." by Miyamoto Musashi
A MiG at your six is better than no MiG at all. -- Unknown U.S. Fighter Pilot
I had another [MiG] in sight at my 10 o'clock, in a left turn.... I pulled sharp left, turned inside him, pulled my nose up about 30 [degrees] above the horizon, ...barrel rolled to the right, held my position upside down above and behind the MIG until the proper angular deflection and rang parameters were satisfied, completed the rolling maneuver, and fell in behind and below the MiG-21 at his seven o'clock position at about.95 mach. Range was 4500 feet, angle off 15. The MiG obligingly pulled up well above the horizon and exactly down sun. I put the pipper on his tailpipe, received a perfect [missile] growl, squeezed the trigger once, hesitated, then once again. The first Sidewinder leapt in front and within a split second, turned left in a definite and beautiful collision course correction .... Suddenly the MiG-21 erupted in a brilliant flash [of] orange flame. -- Colonel Robin Olds, USAF
"You can call it the art of fighting without fighting." Bruce Lee
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As far as I'm concerned the best and only quote of all time and posterity is : NUTS :confused:
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Krotki, during WW2 the 101st Airborne was defending Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge.
Surrounded by several german divisions (panzers included I believe), and sieged for a long time, the German commander sent an envoy to the american commander asking for his surrender.
The reply came back : NUTS!
(aka, ' go to hell' )
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"put yer titty up Adel" Pitt
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Suave posted:"I've not yet begun to fight."
John Paun Jones
He said this as his ship was being sunk, he should've began to fight . He would've lived longer . "
Suave:
John Paul Jones and his men won the battle of which you speak. Also, Jones lived though this battle, died many years later of an illness that had nothing to do w/ this combat.
So, WTF are you talking about?
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Originally posted by OIO
Krotki, during WW2 the 101st Airborne was defending Bastogne in the Battle of the Bulge.
Surrounded by several german divisions (panzers included I believe), and sieged for a long time, the German commander sent an envoy to the american commander asking for his surrender.
The reply came back : NUTS!
(aka, ' go to hell' )
I Knew that the :confused: is for the the response the Gremans trying to figure out what NUTS, Meant. Besides that the 30th Inftry Div was along side the 101st at Malmedy.
For what it worth went in USAF in 1968, retired USANG in 1999
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Originally posted by Steve
Suave posted:"I've not yet begun to fight."
John Paun Jones
He said this as his ship was being sunk, he should've began to fight . He would've lived longer . "
Suave:
John Paul Jones and his men won the battle of which you speak. Also, Jones lived though this battle, died many years later of an illness that had nothing to do w/ this combat.
So, WTF are you talking about?
That guy who said that right before he died .
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"I figured if the Marine Corps wanted me to have a wife, they would have issued me one."........Major Payne......
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Suave quote:"That guy who said that right before he died ."
Suave, the guy who said that died over 15 years later.
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No the other guy .
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Suave, you're thinking of the guy that said:
"I have not yet begun to fight, and won't, because I'm a pacifist."
That's the one that died 15 seconds later.
MiniD
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Oh, and of course:
Spoon!!!! - The Tick