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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rc51 on May 05, 2003, 11:32:47 PM
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Moderator tonight was very silly!
40dogMAw was squelched with no warning for 10mins.
For the following
Albacore) told him to lick his sack
40dogMAW replied grow one first.
And that was it!!
For that he got squelched with out warning for ten minutes!!!
Sorry people but who ever the moderator was he needs to be removed!
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Maybe so, but why reply at all? Just fly! :)
Maybe it was a series of things and not just this one incident.
They may have been some ongoing history that night in the text.
Hard to say!
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he knows the guy and the whole story im shure or he would not post, this stuff has happend befor, and as long as there are secret police will happen again.
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Never flown for a country that didn't 'police' itself. It's always has been easy and immediate shutting them up.
Don't give the MODs any more attention here. They have assumed a 'title' for a reason.
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Geez Creamo... you couldn't be more off base.. more wrong headed. Sure the mods make mistakes... but I think we need MORE mods than less. A lot of over the top smack talking is allowed that really shouldn't be.
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Jeepers Steve, don't be mad at me and junk. :(
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Cudo's to 40dog for being so polite..!
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i can remeber any number of incidents where people went crazy with the language and insults. never a moderator around then. somone says nut sack in response to a cursed insult at the wrong time they get squelched.
same ol thing secret power = bad news.
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Creamo, jinkies I'm not mad!
Vader, the varying degree in which Ch1 is controlled would be better served by having more moderators as opposed to less. 40dog got muted the night before as well. Perhaps it was the same moderator who remembered. I'm not saying 40dog deserved either mute...but I can speak for myself: I have been muted a handful of times and deserved every one.
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So you get muted? Big Deal! Squelch ch. 1 and fly for 10 minuets without a distracting buffer!
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Well steve last nights muting was totally uncalled for no matterr how you add it up. My reply to someone saying lick my sack with grow one, barely warranted a warning. The moderator/censor obviously was a little over zealous. The funning thing was I answered Albacore in a manner to make sure I didn't cross any censorship lines and was immediately censored. Now. I for one think there should be censors in the arena but at the same time I believe there needs to be clear lines drawn in the sand. Bad language should certainly be censored. Argumented language should not. We are fighting in a war scenario. To think there won't be bad blood spilled over channel 1 is ludacris. Censors need to be trained to know whats over the line and whats not. What I said last night was not. Below is a screenshot of our encounter.
(http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/files/ahss99.jpg)
I want you steve, or anyone else, to tell me where a muting is warranted. At best a warning may have been warranted toward Albacore but no way me. Also as it turned out Albacore wasn't even talking to me. Just a simple mix up.
I was going to send a complaint to HTC but decide later after I calmed down, that it was probably either a mistake by the censor, as someone mention that night or an over zealous censor who I'm sure after my unmuting figured that I was pissed an that he may have made a mistake. Who knows for sure, but I felt better after venting on channel 1.
40DogMAW
M.A.W. Commander And Chief
Marine Air Wing (http://marineairwingah.homestead.com/enter.html)
(http://www.marineairwingah.homestead.com/files/USMC_Emblem_001_100x100.gif)
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40dog. I tried to make it clear in my previous post: I'm not passing judgement on whether you deserved to be muted either of the two times I discussed. Cmon bro, I can see why you would be irked about the whole thing but I'm not making any kind of statement regarding what you typed. First off I luv ya man, second off we both know how hypocritical it would be for me to directly criticize anyone's behavior on CH1 without addressing my own as well. You have my full agreement though that MUCH worse banter goes on , unchecked, in the buffer than that which got you muted last.
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40dog looks like you may have the same problem I do... one of the anony-jerks just plain doesn't like ya.
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Well 40Dog you should be muted for just flying that plane! :D
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yer all right,
Moderators are human & therefore subject to mistakes.
Moderators need to be held accountable for properly asserting their control.
Being muted really is no big deal.
More moerators are needed, during off-peak for instance.
I will agree that there isn't currently enough consistency in the applied muting practice. Some are allowed to spew negativety consistantly, the entire time they fly, for hours on end, while others get muted for seemingly harmless situations.
my 2 cents
Anton
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ANTON!!!
MA BRA THA !!!!:cool:
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I have been muted several times for "veiled profanity" lol, and other nights I can curse like a sailor all night without a peep from the mods. What we need is some Godd*** F***ing consinstency from the A**hole F***ing moderators! :D
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The censors should be firm, fair and impartial, but they wont be, censors seldom are.
It takes a special type of objectivity to do that job, our censors many time dont seem to have it.
shamus
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Perhaps, but better to have moderators that occasionally err than to have none at all.
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Not necessarily
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Yes, Necessarily. At the end of AW there were no mods... it was awful.
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Mods are good. More are needed. I wasn't very happy with F*cknut and P00 and their conversation over the weekend.
HONK!
Gooss
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Originally posted by Steve
Yes, Necessarily. At the end of AW there were no mods... it was awful.
You seem to have missed my point, I am saying that it is not acceptable for the censors to feel that it is fine to "occasionally err".
They had better take the position before they act that there will be impartiality at ALL times.
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LOL Shamus. It is fine for everyone to occasionally err. As soon as you find someone who doesn't let me know, I've never met a perfect person.
LOL
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"err" is one thing. Prejudice towards a squad or person is another. That muting did not seem fair at all.
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Well, he really didn't deserve to be muted it would seem, assuming we know all the factors.. But I'd rather the moderators erred on the side of caution than otherwise. Again, I don't see a trend where people that get banned often do NOT deserve to be. I mean sure 40dog got muted.. but 10 minutes of mute... is it that painful?
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Hey Steve..do they teach in medical school that it is fine to occasionally err in surgrry or in the law enforcement accadamy that the occasional shooting of an innocent bystander is ok because nobody is perfect?
You still aint getting it, but thats ok, im done trying to explain it to ya.
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I've seen some pretty rude stuff on ch1, and they are very tolerant, imo. To "err" is not the problem, to be "bias" is. As long as they don't "err" to certain individuals. I'll leave it at that.
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Shamus the reason you cannot "explain" it to me is that your argument is foolish.
I don't fail to understand what you are saying. You're argument is wrong.
You're saying volunteer people who are policing an online game while playing that game should have as much training/expertise as a cop or Doc? Read what you are typing.
Don't attempt to condescend to me when your argument is assinine.
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Originally posted by Steve
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You're saying volunteer people who are policing an online game while playing that game should have as much training/expertise as a cop or Doc? Read what you are typing.
Is that what you thought I said? you better read it again.
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Ya you insinuated that. Look, you've bored me off the page... I am out of patience... you got in a position that was indefensible and your time is up. I'm off to deal with less stoneheaded people.
Have fun in your ignorance.
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Shamus said nothing of training, or expertise, he refered to accountability for their actions. And how exactly does one "insinuate" with text?
"The question is moot" (J. Jackson on SNL)
At any rate, IMO what shamus was saying (rather clearly to most I'm sure) was in line with my 2nd point of "yer all right"
which was "Moderators need to be held accountable for properly asserting their muting control".
Much the same as law enforcement, as well as doctors.
Mistakes showing any kind of pattern of prejudice need to be dealt with accordingly.
Seems pretty simple to me, & Im always glad to help.
Anton