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Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 10:14:01 AM: I believe a major war will take place in Europe one day as a result of the EU and the World Court.....maybe even a war between America and the EU.

The EU is slowly taking away each member's sovereignty and one day I believe it will be down a road that there is no turning back from....... with each member state unable to leave or act on it's own behalf or national interests. Throw the world court into the mix and you've the got potential for major sparks to fly.

The recent actions France and Germany have been taking make me wonder about the EU. They seem to want to control Europe ( not new to those countries) and create a division between Europe and the US.

Just the way I feel......I have had a strong feeling for a long time that the world court, mixed with the EU is a time-bomb that will lead to a major conflict.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Gh0stFT on May 06, 2003, 10:16:18 AM: one day EU will rule the world! yay! :D

lol
Title: You are not alone
Post by: Syzygyone on May 06, 2003, 10:18:25 AM: Well, your thoughts are not a voice in the wilderness. But, since we can't dictate what the EU does, we'll just have to wait and see. I think that there is some hope though as I don't see Eastern Europe as being nearly as anti-American as old europe of France and Germany. And in any event, the UK ain't goin that direction either.

But, thought provoking post.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: SLO on May 06, 2003, 10:18:53 AM: stop being so paranoid nuke......
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Maniac on May 06, 2003, 10:33:18 AM: LoL!!!!

Look! Nuke are scaaaared!

Really you are beginning to sound like an broken record.... We know what you feel about Europe allredy no need to keep on trolling...
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 10:37:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Maniac
LoL!!!!

Look! Nuke are scaaaared!

Really you are beginning to sound like an broken record.... We know what you feel about Europe allredy no need to keep on trolling...

not trolling or scared.

You know how I feel about Europe? Funny, I haven't posted any feelings about Europe before.... ever.

I beleive in what I said. The world court combined with the EU, in my opinion, is a time-bomb for a major conflict in Europe.

Think about it before you comment.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Maniac on May 06, 2003, 10:39:15 AM: Quote
I haven't posted any feelings about Europe before.... ever.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Lance on May 06, 2003, 10:43:16 AM: xen·o·phobe ( P ) Pronunciation Key (zn-fb, zn-)
n.
A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 06, 2003, 10:44:55 AM: Maniac, read his post again.

Nuke, fear not - the UN will curb any conflict years before it happens. Have FAITH man!!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 10:52:09 AM: It really isn't paranoia. It's pretty obvious why EU was established. There are many countries that just can't compete with the US economically or militarily. The INCREASE in our defense budget this year is larger than Germany's ENTIRE military budget. Many EU countries resent that, and want to challenge the US on a global scale. The only way they can do that is to band together militarily, and create paper to compete with the US dollar.

In theory, it will be good for both sides. It just depends on the motives of the person driving the ship. France is fighting to be the captain. That's bad for both sides.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 06, 2003, 10:59:45 AM: I don't what's funnier; Nuke's paranoid ramblings or his assertions that he has never commented on Europe.

Thanks for the laughs!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: SLO on May 06, 2003, 11:06:26 AM: yup it is bad when you got a leader like Bush who has 0% exp. in foriegn relations declaring war on a soveriegn nation.

Declaring that said soveriegn nation IS making WMD's or IS hiding WMD's, and yet none have been found.....

instead of pointing your finger at the French....try finishing your JOB in Iraq and Afghanistan......
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 11:10:15 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
yup it is bad when you got a leader like Bush who has 0% exp. in foriegn relations declaring war on a soveriegn nation.

Declaring that said soveriegn nation IS making WMD's or IS hiding WMD's, and yet none have been found.....

instead of pointing your finger at the French....try finishing your JOB in Iraq and Afghanistan......

Odd how people that put the cretin in power comment on the leader of the most powerful nation in the world.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 11:31:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
I don't what's funnier; Nuke's paranoid ramblings or his assertions that he has never commented on Europe.

Thanks for the laughs!

I said I have never posted my feelings about europe or about any country. Go find them if you can. Dowding, you have said I was a war-monger as well, yet you never gave an example of my war mongering either.

And my post is not a paranoid rambling.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: fd ski on May 06, 2003, 11:32:22 AM: how exacly is today's EU different from US Federal Government of 1800s ?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 11:42:37 AM: Quote
Originally posted by fd ski
how exacly is today's EU different from US Federal Government of 1800s ?

HAHAH, is that a serious question?
Title: An interesting admission!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 06, 2003, 11:45:43 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO

instead of pointing your finger at the French....try finishing your JOB in Iraq and Afghanistan......

Well, it's very very interesting that despite all the shenanigans and name calling and finger pointing, even Slo admits that the removal of oppressive, repressive, maniacal, despotic, mass murdering dictators is :D OUR job. Of course it is OUR job. Slo said it so it must be so! He's only stating the obvious, albeit probably unintentially. Who else could the world look to? France? Puuhhleeeez, Germany? Nope! Russia? No Way Jose!

Yes, we are the world's hired gun, they know it, we know it. So, bash us and our leadership all you want. But, be careful of biting the hands that protect you. Because, you know, that's :D OUR job!
Title: Re: An interesting admission!
Post by: SLO on May 06, 2003, 02:19:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
Well, it's very very interesting that despite all the shenanigans and name calling and finger pointing, even Slo admits that the removal of oppressive, repressive, maniacal, despotic, mass murdering dictators is :D OUR job. Of course it is OUR job. Slo said it so it must be so! He's only stating the obvious, albeit probably unintentially. Who else could the world look to? France? Puuhhleeeez, Germany? Nope! Russia? No Way Jose!

Yes, we are the world's hired gun, they know it, we know it. So, bash us and our leadership all you want. But, be careful of biting the hands that protect you. Because, you know, that's :D OUR job!

lol syz....the more I read your posts the more I laugh....at least your funny:D

WE.....my country....participated in afghanistan...and are still there.....YOU are not alone.....MY gov. thought you where JUSTIFIED for said action and helped......

IRAQ was NOT justified too my GOV's. view...and so DIDN'T participate.....

when I said your JOB....I meant the action taken there IS not finished in Afghanistan....meaning we CANADA, US, blablablabla the rest....

when I said IRAQ...I meant YOU.....find them WMD's.

and there is no need for too think YOU are the WORLD POLICE(hired guns)...far from it.....cause if you where you'd be in fighting China right now....the have a very very bad human rights record....go police them.

and Martlet if you don't stop using insulting words towards my countries leader I will respond in kind.....and trust me.....I got a few waiting....if ya can't spell it...restrain yourself or google it....and I KNOW you can spell it right.
Title: Re: Re: An interesting admission!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 06, 2003, 02:56:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO

when I said your JOB....I meant the action taken there IS not finished in Afghanistan....meaning we CANADA, US, blablablabla the rest....

when I said IRAQ...I meant YOU.....find them WMD's.

and there is no need for too think YOU are the WORLD POLICE(hired guns)...far from it.....cause if you where you'd be in fighting China right now....the have a very very bad human rights record....go police them.

I'm seriously glad you are amused. But, consider this.
In your original post you said ..."try finishing your JOB in Iraq and Afghanistan" You first didn't differentiate between them and there is no real difference, is there. Second, you didn't suggest that Afghan operation wa OUR job, meaning US Canada and the rest.

Oh and BTW, "hired guns" is not synonymous with police force and don't suggest that I meant police force when I meant hired gun.

Anyway, have a nice Canadian day!:D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: lord dolf vader on May 06, 2003, 03:26:14 PM: not worth it.
Title: Wassa mada u
Post by: Syzygyone on May 06, 2003, 03:46:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by lord dolf vader
not worth it.

Off yer feed? Feelin lowly? Come on man, you gotta hold up yer end!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 06, 2003, 03:48:40 PM: lol Nuke. You've got a thread current at the moment called 'The only good thing about the UK...'

The UK is part of the EU. It is in Europe. Now dodge away.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Syzygyone on May 06, 2003, 04:03:40 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
lol Nuke. You've got a thread current at the moment called 'The only good thing about the UK...'

The UK is part of the EU. It is in Europe. Now dodge away.

But UK does not "buy" into the Eurodollar and other European unitarianism stuff. So, it's hard to say that the UK is really part of the EU!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 06, 2003, 04:10:04 PM: Bull****. We have signed up to all sorts of legislation. We pay our dues. We do 2/3 of our trade with Europe whereas only 1/6 is done with the US.

Make no mistake. We are part of Europe and the EU.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 04:10:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
lol Nuke. You've got a thread current at the moment called 'The only good thing about the UK...'

The UK is part of the EU. It is in Europe. Now dodge away.

It's called The Best Thing About the UK

http://hitechcreations.com/ubbframe.html

here is the content: ....Is that they have Beet1e.

I have never posted anything derogatory about another country or europe on the BBS since I've been here. I have never offered my feelings of europe to anyone here............... so don't acuse me of that again unless you can back that up

I have also never posted a war-mongering statement. Go find them.
Title: Re: Re: An interesting admission!
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 04:21:01 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO

and Martlet if you don't stop using insulting words towards my countries leader I will respond in kind.....and trust me.....I got a few waiting....if ya can't spell it...restrain yourself or google it....and I KNOW you can spell it right.

Cretin is an idiot. Sorry if you don't like that. Every night there are interviews in the US with Canudian politicians who are just waiting until he leaves.

He's a bitter nobody, at the end of his career, that has decided to use his office to further his own personal objectives since he will not have to face the repercussions. He cares not how this will affect the people of Canudia.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 06, 2003, 04:30:27 PM: You're amazing. No, really you are.

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I said I have never posted my feelings about europe or about any country. Go find them if you can.
.

Let's see.

Nuke on Britain:

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Maybe you would get lucky and America will send arms to you again, to save you from your pacifist, hide from reality, enemy-trusting selves.

On France:

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France can't take care of itself, let alone anyone else.

You say you've never written a deroguetory remark about anyone.

On Beetle's woman:

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She's probably from the Philippines...... a lot of old white guys find companions there.

Want anymore?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 04:31:45 PM: yeah, keep them coming. He's pretty right on, so far.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: straffo on May 06, 2003, 04:38:08 PM: Dunno how to translate this sentence but each time I read a ***let post I think : « a touché le fond mais creuse encore » ...
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 06, 2003, 05:22:10 PM: (http://home.attbi.com/~martlets93/Pictures/chirac.jpg)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: GrimCO on May 06, 2003, 05:41:18 PM: I view it like this... I'm sure many will say I'm wrong, but here we go...

After the collapse of the USSR, there is no balance of power against the United States in the affairs of the world. We are the ONLY superpower left, and people feel threatened by that.

The EU is merely attempting to restore a balance that was lost. I don't feel threatened by it (at the moment), nor do I feel the EU is attempting to strengthen Europe for a possible war against the United States.

I feel that they are attempting to consolidate the limited resources of each of the European Countries as individuals into a cohesive whole that can compete with the United States on a global level economically, not militarily.

There is obvious potential for future problems as always, but at the moment I don't think their goal is to build a unified alliance capable of waging war against the United States.

Just my opinion
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Fishu on May 06, 2003, 05:54:55 PM: United europe is a centuries old dream already.
This is just an another kind of attempt to unite it after the wars, which obviously were doomed to fail at it.

What comes to trading, alot of european countries used to be EFTA (European Free Trade Association) members, until EU became popular.

I'd say the US is too highly promoted in this thread as the cause of EU.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: GrimCO on May 06, 2003, 07:34:22 PM: Quote
I'd say the US is too highly promoted in this thread as the cause of EU.

Possible, but I doubt it...
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 08:47:06 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
You're amazing. No, really you are.

Want anymore?

YES! Post more! Then find some war-mongering statements I made as well.

You found some real stunning country bashing there! I am obviously "Over-the-top" in those statements. I am suprised I wasn't banned for those statements.

It clearly points out how I feel about europe and France. You know I am known for my extreme country bashing on the BBS....

Can you post a link to those Dowding? I want to see the context from which they were taken.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 06, 2003, 09:17:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
stop being so paranoid nuke......

It's a symptom found in many a mobile home park dweller.

Ack-Ack
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 06, 2003, 09:22:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It's a symptom found in many a mobile home park dweller.

Ack-Ack

LOL Akak
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: straffo on May 07, 2003, 01:27:37 AM: still digging **let ?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 07, 2003, 03:47:28 AM: You said you had never commented on any country and challenged me to prove otherwise. I have done so and, not surprisingly, you're still not content.

Shame.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Swag Abroad on May 07, 2003, 05:33:46 AM: Anyone fire up the BBQ yet?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 06:40:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
You said you had never commented on any country and challenged me to prove otherwise. I have done so and, not surprisingly, you're still not content.

Shame.

actually this is what I said:

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I have never posted anything derogatory about another country or europe on the BBS since I've been here

You seem to like to perceive me as a war-monger and a person who doesn't like and/or bashes the UK, France or Europe when I haven't done either of those things.

You seem to enjoy labeling people.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Maniac on May 07, 2003, 06:44:08 AM: Nuke = Hortlund number 2...
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: bounder on May 07, 2003, 07:17:41 AM: (http://www.skunkulike.co.uk/ahi/nukepost.gif)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Maniac on May 07, 2003, 07:21:07 AM: ROFLMAD!!!

Good one Bounder!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Naso on May 07, 2003, 07:29:37 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Swag Abroad
Anyone fire up the BBQ yet?

Here's the lighter.

:D

Lol Bounder :)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Furball on May 07, 2003, 07:30:26 AM: Quote
Maybe you would get lucky and America will send arms to you again, to save you from your pacifist, hide from reality, enemy-trusting selves.

Quote
Originally posted by Martlet
yeah, keep them coming. He's pretty right on, so far.

yeah, thankyou for the P40's and of course ben affleck that saved us during the battle of britain ;)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: fffreeze220 on May 07, 2003, 07:32:43 AM: LoL Bounder WTFG. :D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: straffo on May 07, 2003, 07:33:15 AM: Good one bounder :)

Now I'll have an hard time pretending I'm working ;)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Naso on May 07, 2003, 07:33:53 AM: How dare you, Furball....

Did'nt you know those "few" of Churchill's speech were the American volunteers? Each single one of them?

Did'nt you see Pearl Harbour???

:mad:
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 07:58:52 AM: Dowding, the soft spoken the diplomat:

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I should think a highly mobile squirrel would be a huge problem to the typical fat-arsed, obese Yank

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Hmmm... "I'm a target" or "I'm a gutbucket capable of consuming several times my own weight in fries, burgers, and sugary drinks - at one sitting". Choices, choices - although the latter would need more room. Not a problem for the average Big-Headed Yank, though

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Well, no American is match for a squirrel. They have to have an uzi on full auto just tackle one. Of course, this would be done from a speeding car, since actually chasing the thing is out of the question, physiologically speaking
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 08:00:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by bounder
(http://www.skunkulike.co.uk/ahi/nukepost.gif)

But you have time to copy the post, add graphics and reply to it.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 08:03:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Maniac
Nuke = Hortlund number 2...

lol,

maniac = number 2
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: bounder on May 07, 2003, 08:14:12 AM: Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
But you have time to copy the post, add graphics and reply to it.

That though also ocurred to me whilst making up the stamp, but I decided that the overall effect would be good enough to warrant such an inherent logical contradiction.

I can do you a little 'droplet' (if you have Photoshop7) that you can use with snagit to stamp the offending article and save it as a gif to your webserver in less time than it takes to read one of your wonderfully edifying posts.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 08:16:39 AM: Quote
Originally posted by bounder
That though also ocurred to me whilst making up the stamp, but I decided that the overall effect would be good enough to warrant such an inherent logical contradiction.

I can do you a little 'droplet' (if you have Photoshop7) that you can use with snagit to stamp the offending article and save it as a gif to your webserver in less time than it takes to read one of your wonderfully edifying posts.

How would you know it was an offending article.....would you read it first?

And if you hadn't or don't read one of my offending posts but then copy, paste and reply to the unread post, how much time have you saved?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: SLO on May 07, 2003, 08:28:28 AM: Martlet I asked you too stop........

out of respect for some on these boards and the fact that HT asked us, I will refrain from targeting your Prez.....

Skuzzy.....ask em too stop or I start bashing.

Syz.....sorry man I'm not a prolific writer.......plus I don't have much time structuring everything I write.....

put it this way...I zoom through the posts:D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: bounder on May 07, 2003, 08:29:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
How would you know it was an offending article.....would you read it first?

Well, I'd check the Author, the length, the paragraph breaks, scan the first few sentences from the top paragraphs, and take in the headings.

Then I'd decide whether to read it. It's not foolproof though, there are plenty of posts I have read where I get to the end and think ' what was the point of that?', as I'm sure you do too.

But hey, thanks, you prompted me to be creative which I enjoyed!
:D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: fffreeze220 on May 07, 2003, 08:44:37 AM: (http://mitglied.lycos.de/fffreeze220/white-house.jpg)
:D
Title: Careful Slo!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 07, 2003, 08:51:26 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO

out of respect for some on these boards and the fact that HT asked us, I will refrain from targeting your Prez.....

Syz.....sorry man I'm not a prolific writer.......plus I don't have much time structuring everything I write.....

put it this way...I zoom through the posts:D

1) Be carfeful about such threatening language. You could get your butt arrested and prosecuted.

2) Haste makes waste!
Title: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: SLO on May 07, 2003, 08:55:16 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
1) Be carfeful about such threatening language. You could get your butt arrested and prosecuted.

2) Haste makes waste!

1. by who?

2. no choice
Title: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 08:57:38 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
1) Be carfeful about such threatening language. You could get your butt arrested and prosecuted.

2) Haste makes waste!

LOL Syz

:)
Title: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 07, 2003, 08:58:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
1. by who?

2. no choice

#1 any decent prosecutor could turn your statement into a threat on the prez's life. That's a major no-no so don't come to the U.S. anytime soon!
:D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Martlet on May 07, 2003, 09:08:18 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GScholz
NUKE and Martlet (and others) are American Supremacists. To them the rest of us are just üntermench.

You sound like a broken record. Fact is fact. Don't hate us because your country is weak.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: SLO on May 07, 2003, 09:09:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
#1 any decent prosecutor could turn your statement into a threat on the prez's life. That's a major no-no so don't come to the U.S. anytime soon!
:D

like I give a watermelon about your prosecutors....read the whole thread.....then you'll notice your wasting your time....read mostly martlets though.

never planned too...nothing interesting there....why waste a trip:D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 07, 2003, 09:11:18 AM: Stop lying Nuke, especially when the evidence to prove that you are lying is in this very thread. Go to the top and read. You will see the following written by you (or your evil, password hacking, co-worker).

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I said I have never posted my feelings about europe or about any country. Go find them if you can.

Which I did. For two countries. Both in Europe.

Thanks for reminding me about the 'killer squirrel'; that thread is a funny read. Moreover, we're not examining my claims about being whiter-than-white (claims I have not actually made) - we're looking at yours at your own invitation. Which has been done. Your claims have been shown to be false, just accept it.

Oh and that's a good rubber stamp you got there bounder. :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: GrimCO on May 07, 2003, 10:22:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
like I give a watermelon about your prosecutors....read the whole thread.....then you'll notice your wasting your time....read mostly martlets though.

never planned too...nothing interesting there....why waste a trip:D

I think anyone with half a brain (even a lawyer) would know SLO wasn't threatening the President... He was merely threatening to begin insulting him. Basically saying "stop making fun of my country's leader or I'll make fun of yours". Innocent of all wrongdoing, but childish at any rate. SLO, don't let a couple of yo-yo's yank your strings enough to stoop to the same level. You'll just be joining a group of individuals who most people know are prone to dishing out insults.

BTW, there are a few interesting things to see here. I'll give you a place to stay and feed ya so you won't have to dump any money into our economy if you ever decide to visit. Can't beat that deal!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: SLO on May 07, 2003, 10:29:01 AM: thx bud.....

already been too the states:D

and ya I do gotta stop posting dumb stuff.....

can't help myself....I'm dumb:p
Title: But, but, but ....
Post by: Syzygyone on May 07, 2003, 10:31:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
thx bud.....

already been too the states:D

and ya I do gotta stop posting dumb stuff.....

can't help myself....I'm dumb:p

If we all stopped posting dumb stuff, and people stopped trolling, what fun would this BBS be?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 07, 2003, 10:33:19 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GrimCO
I think anyone with half a brain (even a lawyer) would know SLO wasn't threatening the President... He was merely threatening to begin insulting him. Basically saying "stop making fun of my country's leader or I'll make fun of yours". Innocent of all wrongdoing, but childish at any rate. SLO, don't let a couple of yo-yo's yank your strings enough to stoop to the same level. You'll just be joining a group of individuals who most people know are prone to dishing out insults.

BTW, there are a few interesting things to see here. I'll give you a place to stay and feed ya so you won't have to dump any money into our economy if you ever decide to visit. Can't beat that deal!

Geez GrimCO, you Canuck lover you, Slo can recognize toungue-in-cheek. Why can't you?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: GrimCO on May 07, 2003, 10:40:44 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
Geez GrimCO, you Canuck lover you, Slo can recognize toungue-in-cheek. Why can't you?

1. Why not love Canucks? They make good beer.

2. I guess I'm just dumb :(
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Careful Slo!
Post by: Syzygyone on May 07, 2003, 10:45:50 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GrimCO
1. Why not love Canucks? They make good beer.

2. I guess I'm just dumb :(

Okay, all is forgiven. Now, pass the pretzels please.:D

Oh and my son just came back from Canada and was very very impressed with the availability of cheap duty free liquor! So, that's another good thing about Canada!.

Oh and actually, "Slo", is really short hand for Slo Gin Fizz!

Ahahhahahahahahahahah!!!
I kill myself:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: But, but, but ....
Post by: Naso on May 07, 2003, 10:53:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Syzygyone
If we all stopped posting dumb stuff, and people stopped trolling, what fun would this BBS be?

Good point, indeed :)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: blue1 on May 07, 2003, 09:34:17 PM: NUKE you've got to stop reading those conspiracy websites. IT's upsetting you and filling your head with mad ideas.

The EU is not some sort monolithic militaristic bloc. It consists of a number very nationalistic and individualistic countries come together to trade with each other and prevent those periodic European wars which came along every thirty or forty years. It also serves to prevent one particular country from dominating the rest: ie Germany.

All member countries are liberal democracies as is America and no two liberal democracies has gone to war with each other EVER. (Or any two countries with a McDonald's BTW).

The only way there could be a war with America was if the USA turned into some sort of mad paranoid fundamentalist right wing regime who started wars against countries it thought might become a threat to them one day or if the American people thought themselves superior to everyone else in the world and decided make sure they knew it.

Now we know that could never happen, don't we?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Fishu on May 07, 2003, 09:52:59 PM: Blue1,

Could've swore I saw mcdonalds in serbia..
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 07, 2003, 10:03:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by blue1
NUKE you've got to stop reading those conspiracy websites. IT's upsetting you and filling your head with mad ideas.

The EU is not some sort monolithic militaristic bloc. It consists of a number very nationalistic and individualistic countries come together to trade with each other and prevent those periodic European wars which came along every thirty or forty years. It also serves to prevent one particular country from dominating the rest: ie Germany.

All member countries are liberal democracies as is America and no two liberal democracies has gone to war with each other EVER. (Or any two countries with a McDonald's BTW).

The only way there could be a war with America was if the USA turned into some sort of mad paranoid fundamentalist right wing regime who started wars against countries it thought might become a threat to them one day or if the American people thought themselves superior to everyone else in the world and decided make sure they knew it.

Now we know that could never happen, don't we?

By the way, I don't read many websites, let alone nut-job one's. I actually thought this through on my own, using my fairly high capacity for logical thought.

I think a lot misunderstood my post. I meant that the EU member states, being a diverse group, may someday find they have less sovereignty than the thought they would have and that the combination of the world court mixed with that could be a powder keg in europe. I didnt say the EU was a military block.

I see a major conflict potential within the EU due to the laws binding EU states together..... mostly the financial ones that govern how a state must run it's economy. At some point there is going to be a state that doesn't quite like being told how to run it's economy. Maybe they don't measure up at some point.
These states will be unable to withdraw from the EU at some point without financial ruin. the UK will be effected too.

Toss in the world court and it's justice transcending these nations with it's justices not being acountable to anyone, plus EU control over the economies...and you have a real problem brewing in my opinion.

I also see a chance that a war could result and that the US could be drawn into it.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: blue1 on May 07, 2003, 10:28:21 PM: True Nuke, but EU members are well aware of this and a series of checks and balances are in place to try and prevent this. Mainly to prevent the Germans or the French simply dominating. The British are very Eurosceptic even to the point that it is damaging to their economy. But they stay in because the realistically are better off in than out.

Who knows what the future brings, but everyone is aware of the dangers and trying to avoid it.

BTW: The world court is nothing to do with the EU any more than the fact of the UN building is in New York means it's an American institution.

Fishu, hmm were those Big Macs there pre or post war 1999? If they got them in after the war, we now know Serbia is safe for democracy. I imagine, right now in the Pentagon, Big Mac executive are planning the first golden arches in downtown Baghdad.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Rude on May 07, 2003, 11:15:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SLO
yup it is bad when you got a leader like Bush who has 0% exp. in foriegn relations declaring war on a soveriegn nation.

Declaring that said soveriegn nation IS making WMD's or IS hiding WMD's, and yet none have been found.....

instead of pointing your finger at the French....try finishing your JOB in Iraq and Afghanistan......

Whiner
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Rude on May 07, 2003, 11:17:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
Bull****. We have signed up to all sorts of legislation. We pay our dues. We do 2/3 of our trade with Europe whereas only 1/6 is done with the US.

Make no mistake. We are part of Europe and the EU.

and damned proud of it too!!!
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Fishu on May 07, 2003, 11:27:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by blue1
Fishu, hmm were those Big Macs there pre or post war 1999? If they got them in after the war, we now know Serbia is safe for democracy. I imagine, right now in the Pentagon, Big Mac executive are planning the first golden arches in downtown Baghdad.

I remember seeing mcdonalds in a reporter footage during the war :>
Title: Re: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: blitz on May 10, 2003, 12:37:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
I believe a major war will take place in Europe one day as a result of the EU and the World Court.....maybe even a war between America and the EU.

The EU is slowly taking away each member's sovereignty and one day I believe it will be down a road that there is no turning back from....... with each member state unable to leave or act on it's own behalf or national interests. Throw the world court into the mix and you've the got potential for major sparks to fly.

The recent actions France and Germany have been taking make me wonder about the EU. They seem to want to control Europe ( not new to those countries) and create a division between Europe and the US.

Just the way I feel......I have had a strong feeling for a long time that the world court, mixed with the EU is a time-bomb that will lead to a major conflict.

ROFLMAO Never ever read such a nonsence :D

Regards Blitz
Title: Re: Re: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Arlo on May 10, 2003, 12:58:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by blitz
ROFLMAO Never ever read such a nonsence :D

Regards Blitz

Proof that you don't proofread your own posts before you hit the "submit reply" button. ;)
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 10, 2003, 08:07:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by GScholz
NUKE and Martlet (and others) are American Supremacists. To them the rest of us are just üntermench.

"We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."

Apparently Churchill was included in those who believe(d)...
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 11, 2003, 07:18:08 AM: Churchill was an American supremecist? I really don't think so. And that quote certainly doesn't point to the over-reaching, over-bearing nature of the word 'supremacist'.

Are you really contending that Churchill believed the entire world is untermenschen in the face of American supremacy?

Comforting, I'm sure.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 11, 2003, 07:29:27 AM: Shaddap Dowding Churchil was an American too! :D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 11, 2003, 07:35:40 AM: That's right; he had half-American parentage.

Tell me, from whom was Roosevelt descended? Or Patton? :D
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 11, 2003, 08:08:52 AM: From fine croatian familes. ;) Actually roosevelt is dutch and patton is scottish. They are not English..
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 11, 2003, 08:13:59 AM: He understood the "power and might", of the new world, and I was making the point of military power.

I took it that the word 'supremacist' can mean military and economic supremacy, which certainly has merit in the former and can be argued coherently in the latter.

If you use the word 'supremacist' in the terms of a people, like those who belived in Aryan supremacy, you probably realize the American people are made up of heratige from every ethnic and racial heratige in the world. So obviuosly that doesn't apply, although the best dogs are mutts, not purebreds.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: Dowding on May 11, 2003, 09:42:48 AM: I was talking in European terms, rather than British (Scotland is part of Britain BTW ;)).

I don't think economic and military supremacy was in doubt or part of the point GScholz was making. He was talking culturally, or at least that was how I saw it.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 11, 2003, 09:54:02 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dowding
I was talking in European terms, rather than British (Scotland is part of Britain BTW ;)).

I don't think economic and military supremacy was in doubt or part of the point GScholz was making. He was talking culturally, or at least that was how I saw it.

No matter, GScholz is wrong.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 11, 2003, 11:06:30 AM: Quote
Originally posted by GScholz
Really...

You are pretty dense it seems. Read that thread.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: NUKE on May 11, 2003, 01:11:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by GScholz
I think that's exactly how you feel, no matter how much you joke about it.

At least Martlet admits to being a supremacist, I can respect that. Why don't you? Are you ashamed?

I don't care what you think of me.... you don't know me.

I feel you are a bitter person.
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: crabofix on May 11, 2003, 01:24:42 PM: Another one of NUKE´s treads going to be locked?...

Please make you bets, Gentlemen, : Is he the next to follow, Mr Blitz and me in the "Probation O club"?
Title: World Court and the EU will result in a major war someday
Post by: SLO on May 12, 2003, 08:56:55 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
"We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."

then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle

there he's talking about the COMMONWEALTH.......

until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old."

there he talks about the USA and Canada......Canada had the 2nd biggest merchant marine during WW2.....all these ships where guarded by the US and Canadian Navy.....but mostly USA took on escort duties.....which made an impressive team.