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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DVDA on May 06, 2003, 12:49:45 PM
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hi i use to play Air Warrior back on AOL and i played it till the day it was canned from gamestorm. Well i really miss the game and i was wondering how does Aces High compare to it?
Is It Better...Worse?
How many people to an areana?
Hows the lag/connection?
Are the planes and combat styles the same?
How are teams divide etc?
Thanks for your time
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Almost everyone from Air Warrior is in Aces High. Best advice is do the free 2 weeks and decide for yourself.
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AH is more like AW FR. Takes a little time to get used to ,but, well worth the effort.
Teams are divided into 3 teams Bishops, Rooks and Knights.
I would strongly suggest you download the game and try the two week free trial. Great game, great price.
WARNING: Abandon all hope of a normal life when you start playing. It is very addictive like AW only more so.
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So what is the Dominating fighter plane in Aces High?
also how many people can play in 1 areana at once is it like in Air Warrior where there was up to 250 people?
Also how is the realism? Is there areas with Relaxed Realism and Full Realism?
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So what is the Dominating fighter plane in Aces High?
Depends on how you like to fight. Anyway who cares which are dominating. Which do you love?
also how many people can play in 1 areana at once is it like in Air Warrior where there was up to 250 people?
750, most nights (pac time) there are 350 to 450.
Also how is the realism? Is there areas with Relaxed Realism and Full Realism?
Its all real. There are helpers though, such as an AoA limiter for newbies and Combat trim for the lazy.
F.
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Originally posted by DVDA
So what is the Dominating fighter plane in Aces High?
also how many people can play in 1 areana at once is it like in Air Warrior where there was up to 250 people?
Also how is the realism? Is there areas with Relaxed Realism and Full Realism?
There are a few dominant planes, N1K2, LA-7, to name two. Arena holds over 500. Several arenas available, but all full realism, with "auto take-off" and "combat (auto) trim" to help get started. Best bet is download for free, fly off line to get the feel, then sign up for two week free trial.
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Well i was a BnZ pilot (yes the annoying ones lol) i flew my FW190 but on occasion i flew the P-38J
Are those planes still good or is the Spitfire IX still the number one plane for most?
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Aces High is everything AW could have been. Jump in with both feet, have a little patience and you'll love the game. The dominating plane in the arena? Mine.
Love the pony!!!
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Originally posted by DVDA
Well i was a BnZ pilot (yes the annoying ones lol) i flew my FW190 but on occasion i flew the P-38J
Are those planes still good or is the Spitfire IX still the number one plane for most?
The Pony is prolly the most prolific plane in the MA. The Dora is IMHO the best BnZ plane, I just love it.
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Is It Better...Worse?
I played Air Warrior for six or seven years. Aces high is better than Air Warrior in almost every way. It would take pages to list the improvements.
If HTC wants to improve or change something they just do it, they are not part of EA or some other huge corporation.
How many people to an areana?
Lots, the main arena holds something like 700 people.
Hows the lag/connection?
Depends on your connection. HTC works hard to fix problems when they come up.
Are the planes and combat styles the same?
The planes are mostly the same. Euro and pac planes are mixed in the main arena and 'unbalancing' planes like the 262 and 163 can be used if you earn enough 'perk points' and are willing to risk them.
The 3 main differences in combat:
1. head on attacks - you will get used to it and learn to take them or (better) learn to dodge them. There are other tactical implications.
2. collisions with enemies - easy enough to avoid, but you need to watch out for it.
3. realistic ballistics - the FW-190A8 isn't the killer in AH that it was in AW because the AH 190's cannons do not have the same range, velocity, and 'bullet drop' as 50 cals like in AW.
How are teams divide etc?
3 teams like AW in the main arena. You can change the colors of the icons for your team, enemies, your squadron, etc.
AH uses the 'land grab' model that AW did in the main arena to encourage people to fight. The main difference is that when one country gets run off the map, the arena is reset and a different map comes up.
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Originally posted by DVDA
Well i was a BnZ pilot (yes the annoying ones lol) i flew my FW190 but on occasion i flew the P-38J
Are those planes still good or is the Spitfire IX still the number one plane for most?
The P-38 and 190 modelled in Air Warrior are a lot different than the ones in Aces High. The 38 isn't quite the looper it was in AW, and the flaps are used a little differently, too. You may want to get some stick time in one of the less challenging airplanes just to get used to the flight model, compression, and ballistics of the guns.
If you're going to do a simple BnZ attack, the FW190A8 with four 20mms is the package to use (select it in the hangar as an option) so long as you are willing to climb up to 20k before engaging anything lower than you. The 190D is the fastest non-perked FW190 and is good for high-speed attacks. The other 190A is good for moderate dogfighting where you need a combination of speed and turn (just get the two 20mm package rather than the four 20mm option).
If you're just starting out, you should probably favor the planes that other new guys favor: the Spitfire IX (or the Seafire or Spitfire V if you want to earn perk points), the N1k2, and FM2 for stall-free flying, or the LA-7 if you want to fly fast and can get in close. The Spitfire and LA-7 are probably the most dominating aircraft in Aces High as far as dogfighting goes. The Spitfire is a good choice if you're going to do some limited ground bombing and want to spend most of your flight dogfighting.
You should also try the P-51D but be warned that it can stall on you pretty bad if you horse it around the sky too much.
My personal favorite is the Yak9U, an undiscovered gem of a plane if you have good aim and can get in close before firing.
After leaving Air Warrior, one of the first lessons I learned in Aces High (right after discovering the stall characteristics of a Mustang at high altitude) was to abandon my concept of not being shot down in a head-on attack - if I got in trouble, I'd just force my attacker to come at me from in front, knowing that the Air Warrior damage model gave better protection to the front quarter. In AW I used this maneuver as a defensive tactic to keep a guy from killing me from behind. In Aces High the HO is guaranteed to result in either you or your attacker going down in flames.
The second lesson I learned was to avoid colliding with enemy planes. Chances are, you'll be the one missing a wing or a stabilizer while the other guy just keeps flying along.
The third lesson I learned was that the Corsair isn't as fightable in Aces High as it was in Air Warrior. The Mustang is faster and has better visability, although the Corsair is slightly more durable and can carry 2 more rockets on its wings for ground attack. 8 rockets on a Corsair is enough to take down a vehicle hangar. The Corsair may have more ammo than a Mustang, but I'm not really sure. The Corsair is also capable of really nasty landings if you don't use rudder correction for the prop torque.
I also learned that the P-47D isn't the pig it was in Air Warrior. In Aces High, the P-47 is a respectable fighter plane, particularly at higher altitudes.
Main Arena will hold 700 and usually there's anywhere from 200 during the US daytime to 600+ in the US night. Lag will vary depending on your connection.
The best team to be on is the Rooks for two key reasons (a) Rooks are usually outnumbered, so you'll earn more perks per kill and the perk planes will cost less and (b) there's this really awesome uber squadron called the Shillelagh that fly as Rooks and I hear that they're all really great pilots (but way, way exclusive in recruiting). Also, the Rook emblem looks like a castle, which is much cooler than the other teams' emblems that look like mules and "marital aids".
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GoFaster, its time for you to hushup about the Yak9U.
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Indeed, shut your piehole please
lets keep it undiscovered
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DVDA,
I was in AW since its inception till its death.
AH is sooooo much better. Our entire squadron aside from two guys came here to AH after testing WWII online and here.
This game rocks....heed the advice and download it and play! You will love it. The modelling is incredible and you can do your BnZ all you want.
The p38J model is not in here...its the P38L model. Very similar.
Good Luck!!!....PS go rook not knight or bish....LOLOLOL
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the fee is 14.95 a month ouch, do you get any other games besides Aces High like gamestorm did?
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Originally posted by DVDA
the fee is 14.95 a month ouch, do you get any other games besides Aces High like gamestorm did?
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Why hell yes. You get the BBS, best game in town. :D
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Originally posted by DVDA
Also how is the realism? Is there areas with Relaxed Realism and Full Realism?
Play for rooks: full realism. (outnumbered)
Play for Bishes: relaxed realism (numbers advantage)
:D ;) :D
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Originally posted by DVDA
the fee is 14.95 a month ouch, do you get any other games besides Aces High like gamestorm did?
The fee has actually halved to what it used to be. You may not get other games - not that I ever played any others at Gamestorm or EA - but what you do get is a much better game, and a better level of service from the small company completely dedicated to their game. Well worth it IMHO. :)
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Indeed, shut your piehole please
lets keep it undiscovered
Did I say Yak9U? I meant the P-51B and the 109G6. I don't know what I was thinking. Someone must've spiked my water bottle at work!
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Originally posted by mipoikel
Play for rooks: full realism. (outnumbered)
Play for Bishes: relaxed realism (numbers advantage)
:p I've never thought of it that way! You're absolutely correct!
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dude, i am an ex air warrior guy. I hate to say this, but AH kicks the snot out of AW, and mind you I LIKED AW. My advice is to get a good joystick, fast pc, and fork over the 15 bucks! Best 15 bucks a month I spend (well, except for food, and the 15 dollar part of the thousands I spend to keep my wife happy). Jump in!.
ROFL steve's reply -"mine" :)
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Originally posted by DVDA
the fee is 14.95 a month ouch, do you get any other games besides Aces High like gamestorm did?
50¢ a day is "ouch"?
Every month there are folks putting in more than 100 hours of stick time. Thats less than 7¢ an hour. Hell the electricity to run thier machines is costing them more than AH.
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But its a big difference $15 Dollars compared to AW3's 10 Dollars a month, at the end of the year thats $180 per year to AW's $120 per year.
And if you end up playing this game for 3 years then figures are more like this
AH= $540 (3 yrs)
AW=$360 (3 yrs)
but with AW you got about 30 other games.
It hurts to fork over that cash being just a college student but hehe i love flight sims and i was such a huge fan of Air Warrior so im going to do it anyway.....So ill see you all in the Skies Of Aces High.
Thanks for all your help guys.
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Originally posted by DVDA
the fee is 14.95 a month ouch, do you get any other games besides Aces High like gamestorm did?
low fee actually...even i could afford it if i wanted to pay...
you get special events and the combat theater as well as MA...and if you still cant afford it theres always free hth...
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Oh one more thing before i go, i was looking at screen shots of this game and i saw a picture of a plane burning falling out of the sky.
Do the planes really fall apart and hit the ground, or is it like in airwarrior where you just blow up into a million pieces in mid air?
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If the pilot dies, the plane explodes. As long as the pilot is alive and hasn't bailed, the plane plummets.
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Thats cool and you can crash into another plane in mid air too right?
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If a plane is falling apart and you run into the debris you can die.
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any live enemy plane, or debris, will cause a collision. friendlies do not cause collision, but shooting friendly planes causes the damage to your bullets to hit your own plane (a game play feature needed for I'm not all that sure, i think to keep players from fragging friendlies, or spies/traitors from killing guys).
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they also didnt mention ya can man some ack guns at base..man guns on the carriers that MOVE...gun your own b17 formation....and last but not least...VULCH
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Originally posted by DVDA
But its a big difference $15 Dollars compared to AW3's 10 Dollars a month, at the end of the year thats $180 per year to AW's $120 per year.
And if you end up playing this game for 3 years then figures are more like this
AH= $540 (3 yrs)
AW=$360 (3 yrs)
LOL dont show me that kindof stuff:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by DVDA
But its a big difference $15 Dollars compared to AW3's 10 Dollars a month, at the end of the year thats $180 per year to AW's $120 per year.
And if you end up playing this game for 3 years then figures are more like this
AH= $540 (3 yrs)
AW=$360 (3 yrs)
but with AW you got about 30 other games.
It hurts to fork over that cash being just a college student but hehe i love flight sims and i was such a huge fan of Air Warrior so im going to do it anyway.....So ill see you all in the Skies Of Aces High.
Thanks for all your help guys.
(a) AW3 was, what, 3 years ago? Maybe more? So the $5 difference is really just an adjustment for inflation. :p
(b) The H2H portion of AH is free, no money needed. The downside is that only 8 players can fly and everyone can kill everyone else. Also, your scores in H2H don't count for a hill of beans.
(c) AW3 didn't have the gun load-out options that AH has. Just look at the library of armament for the 109 and you'll see what I mean. 5 different 109s, some with multiple gun and rocket options.