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Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: JEK on June 17, 2000, 06:35:00 AM

                                 Hello I am I DRAGO of 1°gr.caccia the ASSO di BASTONI I wanted to propose to your attention this
                                 Italian airplane REGGIANE RE2005 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Of this airplane ne are you are made little exemplary but he
                                 has given many victories like hunter of bombers and is an optimal hunting from combat, has
                                 nearly caught up the velocita one of the sound to approximately 989Km hour in dive and
                                 sopportava 12G. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I am in possession of all the data of this airplane also of the nomenclatore
                                 handbook of factory construction ORRIGINALE, in how much I I live in the citta where it has
                                 been constructed. Other since I can say and that the allies to the end of the war have
                                 considered this airplane RE2005 the beautifulst airplane of the AXIS. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) If the thing and of your
                                 interest is to disposition for other information of airplane RE2005. Our group ACE of STICKS
                                 would want to see in the AH game if it is possible? A cordial salute to all you of the staff of AH
                                 for the beautiful game of AcesHigh I DRAGO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
 (http://digilander.iol.it/rikiber/RE2005v1.jpg)
                               
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: RAM on June 17, 2000, 06:39:00 AM
Drago until 1st S.C. moves to Knightland you all will be banned of use of any italian plane, as the real "Axis" side are us.

 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

hehehehe

OTOH...If you tell me that the pic is from a C205 I would believe you. They are damned identical!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: JEK on June 17, 2000, 07:04:00 AM
Hello Ram (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) hehe the pic it is not of the MC205 but of the RE2005 and is much various one it watches well and it confronts. in one what you have reason mount the same motor hello I DRAGO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: JEK on June 17, 2000, 07:11:00 AM
hello RAM these is the differences watches well hello DRAGO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
 (http://digilander.iol.it/rikiber/mac2051grv1.jpg)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: juzz on June 17, 2000, 07:16:00 AM
Apart from mounting the same engine, is there any other reason why the Fiat G.55, Macchi MC.205V and Caproni-Reggiane Re.2005 do look so similar?
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: RAM on June 17, 2000, 07:19:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by JEK:
hello RAM these is the differences watches well hello DRAGO  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
 

THEY ARE IDENTICALLLL!!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: MrBill on June 17, 2000, 08:15:00 AM
YEsssssss!!!!!! Another RE 2005 fan!!! now we are two.
  Any others???
Don't worry Thunder your p51K can still run away ... Can you repost the pick from a couple weeks ago?

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smile awhile
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: JEK on June 17, 2000, 08:46:00 AM

                                 But noooo  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)RAM is various the tail is larger the wings is similar to the Spitfire blots mounts
                                 separate wings the RE2005 mounts wings to an only block hello DRAGO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: Sharky on June 17, 2000, 10:02:00 AM
Drago,

Thats a beautiful plane.  I for one would love to see it modeled.  Take a few minutes and email HT about having all the data on the aircraft, he may be interested in what you have.

Sharky

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You can run but ya just die tired
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: Sunchaser on June 17, 2000, 10:29:00 AM
Hi JEK,
The Italian planes were surely beautiful.

They are my favorite WWII planes from an appearance perspective, you guys know how to make deadly look good.



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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: juzz on June 17, 2000, 10:50:00 AM
Ah - I see the wings are very different.

The G.55 has a wing planform similar to the P-51D, with extensions at the leading edge roots.

The MC.205V - just look at the one in AH. Tapered with rounded wingtips. One wing is longer than the other.

The Re.2005 has a semi-elliptical wing with a slightly swept leading edge; kind of like the P-47, and to a lesser extent the Spitfire.
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: Kieren on June 17, 2000, 11:04:00 AM
And of the three, the G55 was the best interceptor, being both the fastest at alt and having 3x20mm cannon and 2x50cal. I would vote for the G55 (in fact I did on Target's survey!).  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

The Re2005 certainly was pretty, but its pilots were a bit afraid of the tail popping off...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: Thunder on June 17, 2000, 12:15:00 PM
I think it would be a good addition to the stable if the performance variation  complemented the 202 & 205. It looks like it may be very manuverable? Does anyone have any performance data to publish?
BTW I can hardly wait for the P-51Q maybe I can run even faster...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)

Thunder
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: gatt on June 17, 2000, 12:52:00 PM
Kieren   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif),

I think you are right. Luftwaffe test pilots were of the same opinion when they combat tested all Series 5 fighters (february 1943).
With good max speed, maneuverability and heavy armament, the G.55 was a good 1943-44 high alt interceptor, much better than the C.205V at 20K+.

Anyway PYRO has the original flight manual of the G.55 and beautiful references. Who knows?   (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)



[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 06-17-2000).]
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: MrBill on June 17, 2000, 04:17:00 PM
Re post from a couple weeks ago.
Reggiane Re 2005 Sagittario

I Don't Care!!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)  heck it saw combat and with 36 0r 37 built they were prolly a good % of Italian fiter production.  If going for exotic types I would like to see the R model.
POWERPLANT Re 2005R: One 1,475 hp Fiat RA.1050 RC 58 Tifone (license-built Daimler-Benz DB 605A-1) V-12 inline liquid-cooled piston. , plus one 370 hp Fiat A-20 auxiliary engine driving two Campini superchargers.


Re 2005 (actual; official Regia Aeronautica tests, 1942 - 1943)

Max speed: 6,560 ft/2,000 m: 421 mph/678 kph.
          13,120 ft/4,000 m: 351 mph/565 kph.
          22,800 ft/6,950 m: 421 mph/678 kph, or 390.5 mph/628.5 kph.
          22,965 ft/7,000 m: 421 mph/678 kph.
          Cruise speed: 320 mph/515 kph.
Initial climb rate: - Time to
         6,560 ft/2,000 m: 1 min 55 sec.
         13,120 ft/4,000 m: 4 min 28 sec.
         19,685 ft/6,000 m: 5 min, or 7 min 25 sec.
Service ceiling: 37,730 ft/11,500m.
Range: 609 miles/980 km.

Armament:

Two 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns with 350 rounds each in upper engine cowling.
One 20 mm Mauser MG 151 cannon with 150 rounds firing through propellor hub.
Two 20 mm Mauser MG 151 cannon with 200 rounds each in wings.
Up to 2,200 lb / 1,000 kg bomb or fuel tank under fuselage.
Two wing hardpoints for 353 lb / 160 kg of bombs or fuel tanks.

pic at and more stats at
 http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8780/aircraft/re2005/index.html (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8780/aircraft/re2005/index.html)  


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smile awhile
Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: bloom25 on June 17, 2000, 10:26:00 PM
My great encyclopedia of combat aircraft lists the following for the Re.2005:

Type: single-seat fighter/fighter-bomber
Powerplant: one 1100 kW (1475 Hp) Fiat RA.1050 RC.58 Tifone Vee piston engine (licence-built DB 605A-1)
Performance: max speed 630 km/h (391 mph) at 7000m (22,965 ft); service ceiling 12000m (39,370 ft); range 1250km (777 miles)
Weights: empty 2600 kg (5,732 lb); max take off 3560 kg (7,848 lb)
Dimensions: span 11.00m (36'1"); length 8.73 m (28'7.75"); height 3.15m (10'4"); wing area 20.40 sq m (219.59 sq ft)
Armament: three 20-mm cannon and two 12.7mm machine guns.  Provisions for up to 630 kg (1390 lb) of bombs when deployed as a fighter bomber.

The book calls this fighter "likely the finest production Italian fighter of WWII" and "capable of meeting the finest allied aircraft on equal terms."  Unfortunately only 48 were produced before the armistice, but they saw heavy use in the defence of Naples, Rome, and Sicily.  A few also saw service over Berlin.

This fighter would fit in very well with our current set.  It also gives you the possibility for making many early war varients with only minor revisions to the 3-D shape. (Re.2000, Re.2001, Re.2002)  The Re.2002 was used heavily during the allied landings on Sicily in 1942.

 

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Title: For the staff of AH
Post by: JEK on June 20, 2000, 12:47:00 PM
Health to all you that you have answered to mine post. I make excuses myself with you for the delay of my answer and for my insufficient English, but for job engagements I have not been able to answer before, your supplied data are much exact but they are given carried out before the brought modifications, eliminated all the defects of birth the aeronautical General Staff I immediately order the putting in production of the RE2005 and of the RE2006 with motor DB60Á 1750 HP or motor REGGIANE R103 1740 HP with I upset compressor if other data interest you ve can supply them. To this post I enclose a photo with the data of provra between the airplane G55 MC205 RE2005, watched with attention and you will notice that these tests of test executed from the C.S.A. **time-out** Italian the airplane have a single gun from 20mm, and not with 3 gun from 20mm install on the G55 and RE2005, the MC205 ne have only 2 gun from 20mm. Hope that succeed to translate the word in Italian of the grafico.altra what to notice and that the G55 have a score advanced on all but of a single point on the RE2005 and this regard single autonomy in km, 1.020 for the G55 and 980 for the RE2005, not have never understand why 40km in more can give a appraisal doppia??ma (I believe that be all politics Italian) Can only say that have have the fortune to know a test pilot of the RE2005 and can guarantee that G55 that I recognize a beautiful airplane and much manageable one, but the RE"005 was advanced in all to G55 even if the data say the contrary a cordial salute to all you DRAGO (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
 (http://digilander.iol.it/rikiber/compg55-205-2005.jpg)