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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: DVDA on May 07, 2003, 11:54:44 PM
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I played AW3 for years but i cant seem to get the basic flying concepts of AH, turns are hard, loops i cant do....is there any training manual out there? or movies lessons i can download?
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there's a fairly steep adjustment period, but stick it out and you'll find it's pretty much the same as aw was, especially if you flew FR... even then i think AW FR was slightly harder than AH was... i almost never stall/spin now, uncontrolled anyway....
the biggest difference is truly the gunnery. the moves and timing is about the same as AW was... just takes time to adjust to.
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I agree about the gunnery!
I find myself able to do ACM pretty well for newbie,,and SA seems to be gettin good, but gunnery is awfull!
Seems like i do better if i use main trigger to fire both,,but i dont want to keymap it that way,,cause i jabo alot,,,Im using MSPP2 twisty,and find myself getting unwanted rudder input when linin shot up, and i have deadband at about 40%
gettin better each day tho,,,thats what makes it fun
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Originally posted by Cooley
Im using MSPP2 twisty,and find myself getting unwanted rudder input when linin shot up, and i have deadband at about 40%
crank up the deadband to about 65% and the damper to about 75% for rudder input, that way it'll have to be a conscious effort for rudder input. i use ms ffb2 which is basically the same stick.
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Funny, I use an FF2 as well and leave rudder deadband as small as possible. I like the exact control to swing the nose where I like in order to shoot off specific parts.....up close anyway.
Shane what settings do you have to cure nose bounce and general over-sensitivity?
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Originally posted by Swoop
Funny, I use an FF2 as well and leave rudder deadband as small as possible. Shane what settings do you have to cure nose bounce and general over-sensitivity?
if this place still supported attachments, i'd post a screenie. if you want i can send you my stick.cfg file and you can try it for yourself. but if so, make sure to backup/copy/move your current file to a safe place so u can restore your settings easy.
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Originally posted by DVDA
I played AW3 for years but i cant seem to get the basic flying concepts of AH, turns are hard, loops i cant do....is there any training manual out there? or movies lessons i can download?
http://www.netaces.org for some good info and advice on how to work the game.
For turning, looping, and basic aerobatics, try an aerobatic aircraft such as the Spitfire V, N1K2, FM2, Hurricane Mk2, or one of the Zeros. When I fly the Spitfire IX (which has slightly less turning ability that the Spitfire V model), I prefer the 2 Hispano + 2 .50cal load-out since those rounds have almost the same ballistics.
My biggest adjustment when switching from AW, AW2, and AW3 was the bullet ballistics at ranges beyond 300. The .50 cal shell has the truest flight, with the Hispano cannon round about as accurate. The other guns will suffer some drop-off. In fact, I think the netaces.org page did a test using targets to determine which settings work best for the most-often-used gun packages.
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Originally posted by Swoop
Funny, I use an FF2 as well and leave rudder deadband as small as possible. I like the exact control to swing the nose where I like in order to shoot off specific parts.....up close anyway.
Shane what settings do you have to cure nose bounce and general over-sensitivity?
I have a same BIG problem with my M$ FF2. For 1/2 year I was playing not with opponents, but with my Joy and sliders in setup. Main prob - nouse bounce and no sens to fly without enabled "stall limiter" option in setup/fly.
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Originally posted by Shane
if this place still supported attachments, i'd post a screenie. if you want i can send you my stick.cfg file and you can try it for yourself. but if so, make sure to backup/copy/move your current file to a safe place so u can restore your settings easy.
Yes please!
raf1swoop@yahoo.co.uk
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Originally posted by Dralex
I have a same BIG problem with my M$ FF2. For 1/2 year I was playing not with opponents, but with my Joy and sliders in setup. Main prob - nouse bounce and no sens to fly without enabled "stall limiter" option in setup/fly.
Until the con when I got to try other people's setups I just thought it was the way the sim flew. Over the last 3 years I've just gotton used to being real careful with the stick, the last thing anyone could accuse me of is being hamfisted.
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Originally posted by Swoop
Yes please!
sent.
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Me also if ya have time shane,,thanks!
cools367@yahoo.com
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Here is my rudder..Been using it for about a year and a half..
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Hello Wldthing,
That is quite fine if you have pedals - like I do now. But if you had a twisty sticky like MSPP2 you would have a lot of problems hitting a target ....unless of course he doesn't realise you're back there and is flying dead straight. Before I had the pedals I had to use the dead band to improve my accuracy
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hey WT, looking at that picture, one of the axis needs a slight increase in deadband to get it flatlined... you can see the "dirty input" with those tiny spikes.
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dvda, do more free practice.
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Originally posted by acetnt
Hello Wldthing,
That is quite fine if you have pedals - like I do now. But if you had a twisty sticky like MSPP2 you would have a lot of problems hitting a target ....unless of course he doesn't realise you're back there and is flying dead straight. Before I had the pedals I had to use the dead band to improve my accuracy
I do use a twisty...
And Shane i normally have to calibrate stick everytime i log on, but that time i didnt so thats why your seeing that "dirty input".
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If you're going to fly for more than a year, save yourself some frustration and get a CH Flightstick Pro (the one with 4 buttons and a hat switch) and pedals. If you want to get real fancy, get the Fighterstick with CH Pro pedals.
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Originally posted by gofaster
If you're going to fly for more than a year, save yourself some frustration and get a CH Flightstick Pro (the one with 4 buttons and a hat switch) and pedals. If you want to get real fancy, get the Fighterstick with CH Pro pedals.
Also, AH supports multi controler inputs. Sim junkies like me (driving and flying) use the racing pedals as rudder control.
Shane is right btw, the moves are pretty much old hat. Once you get used to the light sticking, and gunnery it starts to feel like the same old, same old.
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Me also if ya have time shane,thanks!
dr_alex@ukr.net
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One of the best ways to get over the gunnery model learning curve and also to improve your gunnery skills is to turn off your tracers. The added benefit is that you won't alert your prey if you're making an undetected pass on his six.
Ack-Ack