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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Replicant on May 12, 2003, 04:35:57 PM
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I was talking to a squadmate the other day and the topic went on to base captures & gooning...
Can anyone remember when you could do a low alt (20ft), high speed troop drop in a C47 over the airfield to capture the base? IIRC there was no maproom and as soon as all 10 troops hit the ground they captured the base! This was even before we had asphalt runways - we just had a 'dusty' type runway! Think it must have either been beta or early Tour 1/2?
A small airfield only had two ack too.... but boy were they uber ack! ;) This was also before GVs!
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Yup first 3 planes were P-51D, Spitfire, and B17
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I miss WB 1.X base capture. You had to land and exit safely OTR.
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Originally posted by Replicant
I was talking to a squadmate the other day and the topic went on to base captures & gooning...
Can anyone remember when you could do a low alt (20ft), high speed troop drop in a C47 over the airfield to capture the base? IIRC there was no maproom and as soon as all 10 troops hit the ground they captured the base! This was even before we had asphalt runways - we just had a 'dusty' type runway! Think it must have either been beta or early Tour 1/2?
A small airfield only had two ack too.... but boy were they uber ack! ;) This was also before GVs!
You sure it was not in some other game Nexx?
I remember troops had to flow to ground from 500ft+ in AH, also small base always had 8 acks, though lethality were absolutly deadly (were impossible to kill them with jabo, needed buffs).
May be it was before me, though I joined AH in an early beta.
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Originally posted by funkedup
I miss WB 1.X base capture. You had to land and exit safely OTR.
LOL not that I want it back but it was a laugh to skid down the runway fingers crossed you could stop before you were vulched :D
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Ditto what Revvin said, nose prints on the moniter were common attempting it.
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Fariz is right about the ack , pretty much had ta have a bomber take it out. Best way to stop a base capture was kill the buffs.
Don't know about the 20 ft drops Nexx , do remember watching Beemer skid in gear down to let troops out tho:)
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way, way, way back in the history of AH small bases did indeed have only 2 acks, and woe to the one who got inside thier envelope. After alot of trial error it was discovered how you could take them out with jabo, but it took alot of practice cause you had to drop the egg/fire the rocket from real high.
I remember when the troop drop alt was made 700ft+ AGL too. And when B-17s didnae have any guns on them. Oh I cussed plenty back in those days. And the surprise the fighter jocks got when my -17 finally got guns (I was pretty much a dedicated buff driver in the open beta tour days :D )
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Yeah Cavey, I remember that. grrrrrr :mad:
Those acks were mean, I remember a cry of sheer joy when I was able to get one ack out of 12, tossing a 1K lbs eggs from above 8 thousand feet.
The thing I miss the most were those huge B17 flights with escort. Be it from the escort side, or the intercepting side.
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I remember the drop alt meaning nothing for troops as well. I seem to remember there always being a map-room tho. Was fun the version it was changed to the current +800ft agl. Never have so many drunks get splattered over so many bases, by people who don't read the readme.
I also remember the killing acks, they had no dispersion, so you flying straight at 9K was a sure way to get killed. Didn't all structures take 500lbs to kill back then, from ack to tower (which acted as the radar), and you had to hit it DEAD center for it to register the damage.
Am I just imagining things or could you kill the runway? Not much point other than the enemy could only get a ditch, or did it control the spawn ability? (before hangars came into play)
Weren't the La-5FN also in the first release?
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My first flight I flew over the mountain range and performed the first of what was to be many HO on a bad guy. Seen an airfield and was going to fly over it to see what would happen. I didn't even get close before the ack knocked me out of the air.
Yep! Remember the B-17s with no guns!
I flew the Mustang my first few sorties due to I did not know how to change planes.
AH was a ball back then (OCT 1999).
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Originally posted by Fariz
You sure it was not in some other game Nexx?
I remember troops had to flow to ground from 500ft+ in AH, also small base always had 8 acks, though lethality were absolutly deadly (were impossible to kill them with jabo, needed buffs).
May be it was before me, though I joined AH in an early beta.
Definitely only 2 ack per small airfield, diagonal to each other - I still have a beta/version 1 copy of AH but I'm not going to load it up. I think it went to 8 ack per small field in about Tour 3?
Also the troops could be released at any altitude, no max/min alt. The 800ft AGL was introduced in a later version.
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I think there always was a map room, at the field... no cities, but I don't think the troops enterred it back then. I don't think the runways could be destroyed, but never messed much with bombing and base capture so I might be wrong.
I remember how the planes didn't want to turn and how hard it was to take off with the torque affects. I thought it was bad, but then HTC brought out the ME109. Taking off in that thing was near impossible even using auto pilot. I later found out I had a problem with my joystick and rudder pedals. They wouldn't work right with my new computer so I didn't have any precise control... it was all or nothing =o[
Some runways were so short I couldn't take off without going past the end. There were some on top of a mountain with cliffs all around. I used to go off the cliff and fall untill I had enough speed to fly. And landing was hard... all the drag (like prop drag) weren't modeled yet so the planes didn't want to slow down. I think you needed 10 mile finals.
grizzly
Originally posted by LLv34_Snefens
I remember the drop alt meaning nothing for troops as well. I seem to remember there always being a map-room tho. Was fun the version it was changed to the current +800ft agl. Never have so many drunks get splattered over so many bases, by people who don't read the readme.
I also remember the killing acks, they had no dispersion, so you flying straight at 9K was a sure way to get killed. Didn't all structures take 500lbs to kill back then, from ack to tower (which acted as the radar), and you had to hit it DEAD center for it to register the damage.
Am I just imagining things or could you kill the runway? Not much point o
ther than the enemy could only get a ditch, or did it control the spawn ability? (before hangars came into play)
Weren't the La-5FN also in the first release?
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i do remember the time with no combat trim, that was much better and more challenging.
wish that come back, does anyone have the ah versions from the beginning if so it would be nice to try them out again, I somekinda have to deleted it after several format :c and so on.
pm me please.
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I remember the "Buffs heaven field" on a mountain at 10000 feet. Think it was somewhere around v.1.3
For a quick buffing a great thing.
Sailor
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I remember the pre 1.3 flight model. Boy was that fun or what!
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Originally posted by metronom
I remember the "Buffs heaven field" on a mountain at 10000 feet. Think it was somewhere around v.1.3
For a quick buffing a great thing.
Sailor
That sounds like SFTERR which was the second terrain we got. It had A1 as the centre field and was at 10k. Later versions lowered the airfield and put hills around it.
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I flew for the "Red headed step children" country in those days, always outnumbered (Knights) :) Oct. 99 (V.34?)
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hehe Nexx, "A1 under attack!"(tm)
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Originally posted by Saintaw
hehe Nexx, "A1 under attack!"(tm)
Hehe, would love to see that terrain in rotation again, was great fun! Remember the V base due south of A1, and the airfield to the its west which you could roll down the hill to in a GV at about 200mph!?
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Hehe, would love to see that terrain in rotation again, was great fun! Remember the V base due south of A1, and the airfield to the its west which you could roll down the hill to in a GV at about 200mph!?
LOL, I never did survived that! But tried it often :D
Sailor
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I remember the good ol days when you could bail out in the valley in the middle of the map and get everyones proximity kills. Man I was good then! When you would get shot down in a B-17 with a gunner and you both bailed high, the gunner would still have machine guns while in the chute. We bailed out over a base after de acking field and took machine gun the the end of the runway and vulched. TRUE EXPLOYTATION AT IT'S FINEST! Oh and chasing FISHU all over the map at 30K to try and end his streaks. This game has been a blast from the start.. we all just grew with it.
Salute
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I miss the beta map .
Mountains with snow on top.
Beer and pizza in the left top corner.
I don't know what, but something had more charm back than.
Maybe i'm to spoiled now.
I hope AH2 brings back some charm.
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We're becoming older... Sigh...
Talking about old times of beautiful BETA map ware sheeps were everywere make me even more sad about AH of today.
Oh, those canyons.............
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Anyone got copies of beta map or the SFTERR?
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I have both. :)
Send me your e-mail.
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Oh, those canyons...;)
(http://lupoweb.supereva.it/beta01.jpg)
(http://lupoweb.supereva.it/beta02.jpg)
Yeah, srry for the big pics. But, you know... memories!
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Ah, Great LUPO, please email (nexx@btinternet.com) them
Thanks
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Check your mail.
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Thanks LUPO
Something else I remember is that the ack used to have tracer! Used to look quite spectacular when approaching a field!
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For those that can't remember the beta or sfterr maps, here's a couple of piccies:-
Beta (modified for GVs)
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/beta.jpg)
SFTERR
(http://www.btinternet.com/~nexx/sfterr.jpg)
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Originally posted by Thunder
I remember the good ol days when you could bail out in the valley in the middle of the map and get everyones proximity kills. Man I was good then! When you would get shot down in a B-17 with a gunner and you both bailed high, the gunner would still have machine guns while in the chute. We bailed out over a base after de acking field and took machine gun the the end of the runway and vulched. TRUE EXPLOYTATION AT IT'S FINEST! Oh and chasing FISHU all over the map at 30K to try and end his streaks. This game has been a blast from the start.. we all just grew with it.
Salute
LOL.
Slow crawling b17, which all tried to strafe, and died. HT was trying panzer with b17 skin on it.
GV bug, when panzer bounced and flew to mars. I almost ram one panzer at 27k :)
GV bug, when panzer could accelerate and never slowed down. Once saw panzer racing at 320 mph across the map :)
Mitsu, which cried "Help" before start of vulch, then getting 10 kills. All thought he is that good :)
Chess in the sky.
You could fly to 30k, and find spits at 35k.
Buffs before guns were "fixed". They flew up to stratosphere to avoid fighters. So fighters flew even higher.
Rooks, which once put bishops and nits to 2 fields, and vulched for 2 days.
Nits which had 0 people during the european time.
Acks hugging were acks hugging. No one could fly close to field and stay alive.
Ack starring b17s.
Hristo, Hangtime, Torque, Mitsu, and 5000 other good guys who not around now.
Vulcano bug.
Rumbles, specially first one :) Hangtimes furball. Duma's cartoons.
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Originally posted by Fariz
Rooks, which once put bishops and nits to 2 fields, and vulched for 2 days.
Yeah.. that was alot of fun. The supply system, as it was at that time, at work. Or not at work, courtesy of our bombs and rockets :D
And people wonder why we're in the bucket more than nits or bish :D
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Remember "Car Bombing"?
When you could spawn a b-17, then release a bomb while still on the ground as a vulcher came in on you? He would go BOOM in the explosion, while you sat and waited for the next one.
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Originally posted by BD
Remember "Car Bombing"?
When you could spawn a b-17, then release a bomb while still on the ground as a vulcher came in on you? He would go BOOM in the explosion, while you sat and waited for the next one.
Yes, were the great way to get zillion kills without shotting a single bullet. You flew close, then turned while still out of blast radius, he boomed, you get kill :)
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Flying over a field with your bomber and catching 2 or 3 guys on the re-arm pad:)
Taking a B-26 up to take out GV's.
It was a relaxing way to end of day.
"The Good Old Days"
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Check this thread out:
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87091
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Early Beta Map without GV hangers
(http://www.vzavenue.net/~sjt.betamap.jpg)
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Early Beta Map without GV hangers
(http://www.vzavenue.net/~sjt/betamap.jpg)
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When Sheep were Sheep and Men were Men! :D
(http://www.vzavenue.net/~sjt/beta1.jpg)