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Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: Creamo on May 16, 2003, 01:34:44 PM
This hobby is just insane, and addictive. You all have bought a ESTES Alpha3 and lost it on a C6-7. Here’s what a L1120 does. Yes a “L” motor, does to the “MILF HUNTER.COM” Nekid  (no paint ) rocket. It did well It think.


Countdown (http://www.tqc39.com/Rockets.exe)

Crank your speakers, it’s Rush.
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: Torque on May 16, 2003, 03:18:34 PM
fediddleen A!!!

My last launch was a dual stage after the first stage blew it just disappeared into heaven, i never did find that sucker.

What's the burn rate of those motors and thrust?
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: AKIron on May 16, 2003, 03:41:38 PM
I thought the Patriot Act killed that hobby. Can ya still buy the motors? Maybe was just a bit of paranoia?
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Post by: GrimCO on May 16, 2003, 03:47:36 PM
If you guys want to experience a real hoot, get a 5000 foot spool of super thin guage copper wire and wrap one end of it around a metal rod driven into the ground.

Wait for a nice ominous thunder cloud to roll in, and attach the other end of the wire to your rocket. You're going to need a big enough engine to get your rocket up to 1000 feet AGL or so.

Use an old style lightable fuse instead of the remote type with wires. Repeat... DO NOT use the remote igniters with wires! Use a long enough piece of fuze to give you time to hide in your car before the engine ignites (This part is very important). MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR before the fuze ignites the engine.

Sometimes it takes two or three launches to get the desired effect, but the effort is well worth it. BEHOLD, THE LIGHTNING COMETH!!!!!!

Even though your safely grounded in your car, your hair will stand up from the residual static of the lightning strike. It's really quite cool seeing a lightning bolt hit the ground 20 feet from where you're sitting.

You can also dig up the area around the grounding rod and recover the glass tubule created when the lightning struck the ground and melted the sand into glass. It's quite a conversation piece :)
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Post by: GrimCO on May 16, 2003, 03:51:12 PM
Oh and one more thing fellas...

Don't be a knucklehead and try this in a residential area. An open field with no trees is the ONLY place to pull this stunt.
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: midnight Target on May 16, 2003, 04:17:35 PM
Did you actually do this Grim?

Sounds great.

My nephew got into rocketry after watching "Apollo 13". I went to one of his launches. He actually insisted that we answer him as he called out --

Ecom --- go flight
Retro ---  go flight
Capcom -- go flight


:)
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: GrimCO on May 16, 2003, 04:27:52 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Did you actually do this Grim?

Sounds great.

My nephew got into rocketry after watching "Apollo 13". I went to one of his launches. He actually insisted that we answer him as he called out --

Ecom --- go flight
Retro ---  go flight
Capcom -- go flight


:)


LOL Midnight!  That is awesome.  Kids have the best imaginations!

And yes, myself and an engineer where I work have done this twice... It's quite a spectacle!
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: type_char on May 16, 2003, 04:28:40 PM
Apollo, this is Houston do you read me?
...
Apollo, this is Houston do you read me?
... ...
Apollo, this is Houston do you read me?
... ... ...
Apollo, this is Houston do you read me?
... ... ... ...

Houston, this is Apollo, geeze what do you want now.
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Post by: boxboy28 on May 16, 2003, 04:30:22 PM
Hey wheres the video all i get is a blank screen ans the sound?:eek:
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Post by: Hangtime on May 16, 2003, 04:55:11 PM
SPECTACULAR!!

OMFG!!

WHHHHOOOOOO HOOOOO!!!!!

Oh, man, nice presentation.... and MILF.HUNTER.COM on that L-Body!! ROFL!!

And wifey-san looks like she was havin a blast too.

Just finished my new 100" L-21.. gonna do glider tows this weekend, weather permittin. I'll send yah some snapshots if we don't kill the camera man.. :)

Dammo, Creamer, thems some GREAT shots, 'specially of the sequenced launch. Awsome!
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: type_char on May 16, 2003, 07:17:36 PM
Houstan, this is Apollo, do you read me
...
Houstan, this is Apollo, do you read me
... ...
Houstan, this is Apollo, do you read me
... ... ...
Apollo, this is Houstan, we read you loud and clear
...
Houstan, this is Apollo, the Eagle has landed, I repeat the Eagle has landed
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Post by: Airhead on May 16, 2003, 08:15:26 PM
WOW.... I could tell by the grins that must be a blast. (no pun intended.) Thanks for sharing, Creamo, but why didn't you get any photos of the starbursts after they got to altitude??

Hey Grim, Great idea- I have a roll of copper wire, but I don't have a rocket. Do you think my kite will work?
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Post by: Maverick on May 16, 2003, 11:29:25 PM
Interesting film. What altitude and how far away did it land?
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Post by: Airhead on May 17, 2003, 12:46:46 AM
Sorry Mav but Creamo can't answer us. He was arrested today and accused of being the mastermind behind Iraq's secret rocket program.
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: Creamo on May 17, 2003, 03:10:16 AM
You can’t be serious Grim?! That's insane, you'll be killed.

A estes C motor which takes small rockets kids can build, go to over 1,000 ft agl have about 9 newton-seconds of impulse. That L motor had nearly 5,000 newton-seconds. It weighed 10 pounds in propellant alone, pushing a 13 lb rocket, and it went to 11,497 feet AGL. In the picture during the rocovery, you can see the flight line in the distance (white tents), so I dunno, maybe it landed a 1/2 mile away? Remember these are electronic altimeter dual-deployed so they free fall on a tiny drouge chute and don't open the big one till 800-1,200 feet, taking recovery from what would be miles, to sometimes under a hundred yards.

I have all this on video, but have no idea how to make up a small movie with the stills. Looking into that, as you can make some pretty neat sh*t on computers these days.
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Post by: Dowding on May 17, 2003, 05:23:15 AM
lol Airhead
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Post by: SirLoin on May 17, 2003, 05:48:38 AM
I wonder if you could make an R/C Space Shuttle and control in back for a landing after the rockets run out?..That would be cool!

Cool slide show!..I like how you got the model rocket launch pix with the song part...:)
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: NUKE on May 17, 2003, 06:00:42 AM
Creamo nice! I remember the biggest rocket engine I used as a kid was a D-12.

Nice slide show!
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Post by: Terror on May 17, 2003, 06:01:32 AM
Been doing HP Rocketry for quite a while...

Here is a great movie of one of SLRA's member's rocket not doing very well at launch:

Rocket Mishap (http://www.stlouisrocketry.org/movies/k1100_cato.mpg)

It was a four motor cluster of K1100 motors.  2 of them CATO'ed at ignition.  Pretty spectacular to say the least....

Visit www.stlouisrocketry.org (http://www.stlouisrocketry.org) for more info...

Terror
Title: Lets be kids again, rocketry ....
Post by: GrimCO on May 17, 2003, 07:49:27 AM
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Originally posted by Creamo
You can’t be serious Grim?! That's insane, you'll be killed.


LOL Creamo,

I'm still alive! As long as you're inside of a vehicle when the lightning strikes, you're not grounded, and will remain safe. The only thing you'll feel is a little bit of residual static, and smell a strong odor of ozone. The thunder clap produced is the worst part of it. It creates one hell of shockwave when you're that close to it. It's quite spectacular really. We did this a couple of times a few years back.

Our shennanigans came to a screeching halt after my friend received third degree burns on his legs while we were creating fire tornadoes...LOL  His wife isn't too fond of us hanging out together anymore... But that's a whole other story!