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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: NATEDOG on August 02, 2000, 03:57:00 PM
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(http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/lancaster.jpg)
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Nathan "NATEDOG" Mathieu
Art Director
HiTech Creations
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".... And on the eighth day, God created beer. "
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KICK bellybutton (southpark mode).
Look the curves on that lanny!!!! YIKES!!!
YOU ROCK NATE
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@#$@#$ YEAH HAHA BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)KIITOS!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Sisu
-Karnak
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Nate...if you ,or SUPERFLY ever do a I-16 (one of the ugliest planes ever), I am sure I'd love its look...
You make the ugly look pretty (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Maybe MaxFactor would contract you?! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Very nice.
FYI, if I read the sqn codes right, it is TC*W. If so then this Lanc belongs to 170 Sqn.
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Lt Col Dune
X.O. 352nd Fighter Group (http://www.352ndfightergroup.com)
"The Blue Nosed Bastards of Bodney"
"Credo quia absurdum est." (I believe it because it is unreasonable)
- The motto of the Republic of Baja Arizona
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O`man (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) Drool ...
Thats one heck of an nice plane, perfectly recreated by the HTC crew , like no one else can do (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Is it the plane with the highest polygon count in AH yet ?
Sure looks like it to me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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The Wild Vikings
Commanding Officer
lasse-
[This message has been edited by lasse (edited 08-02-2000).]
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Originally posted by Dune:
FYI, if I read the sqn codes right, it is TC*W. If so then this Lanc belongs to 170 Sqn.
Correct.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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WOW!
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Life (for Buff pilots) is good. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thank you. Very nice work. <S>
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WOOOHOOOO!!!
*Dances around wildly*
coop
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Well, it's mighty nice (don't let the "Paintscheme Police" from Warbirds see that green/green camo tho) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
But really, I think you got the wrong plane. The one you want looks like this...
(http://sites.netscape.net/jeditaub/dambust.jpg)
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"flintstones, meeeeeet the flintstones...." nice wheels man.
[This message has been edited by mason22 (edited 08-02-2000).]
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Job Well done Natedog, job well done.
My congragulations on the Lanc, it truly is a nice looking bird.
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"Downtown" Lincoln Brown.
lkbrown1@tir.com
http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1 (http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1)
Wrecking Crews "Drag and Die Guy"
Hals und beinbruch!
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I think I got a chubby!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Thanks to you NATE!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/eek.gif)
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That aint a wheel. That's wanna dem skip along the water, make dam go boom units. Or a beer keg.
Oh yah - Great job Nate!
[This message has been edited by Nash (edited 08-02-2000).]
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A beauty
No more words are required.
Dusk
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The color will need some work before it's finished.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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Jedi,
Where and how did you get/make picture of the "Dam Buster".
Just Curious
delta
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Beautiful, just beautiful.
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170 Sqn used Mustang's in WW2 until about 1943/44 then re-equipped with Lancaster's in 1944.
'Nexx'
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Great Work!!!!!!
I love SUPERFLY and NATEDOG!!! hehehehe (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Yes...Your art and 3D model are AWESOME. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
-Mitsu
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Delta, the Lancaster MkI "Special" or Dam Buster as you put it, in Jedi's post is an Openplane modification of the Lancaster MkI in Screaming Demons Over Europe.
Sisu
-Karnak
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<<<The color will need some work before it's finished.>>>
I think the top colors were olive and brown.
Look up Lancaster here: http://www.tholianweb.com/cgi-bin/amd2.pl (http://www.tholianweb.com/cgi-bin/amd2.pl)
No bottom gunner, Muhahahaha.
ra
[This message has been edited by ra (edited 08-02-2000).]
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good show, jolly good (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Lookin great guys. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
I might just take up bombing again.......
Swoop
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Simply the finest WW2 air-combat sim to date and getting better all the time! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Great work all at HTC!
By-Tor
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Ohhhhhh YESSSSSSSS !!!!!
That is Beeeeuatiful Nate - that is my new ride.
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WOW!! great super ..
how much 1000 lbs bombs fit in ?
and how much off those little ones
and will it survive attacks from attack coming from beneath...
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Great another bomber i am going to get waxed by. Good Job Natedog
Bash
Htc guys dont send me any email regarding Htc because i have told my wife its porn site. She thinks this game i have bough is CD game hehe. Love when my wife doesnt Know about computers. hehe
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Looking Awesome !!!!
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Looking at the pic - you guys opted for twin 50 cals in turrets. In this case, it won't just roll over and die at a sight of any approaching fighter (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).
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-lynx-
13 Sqn RAF
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Natedog,
Whoa!
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Nice! Colors are bit weird but seems like it will be fixed ASAP (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ok, now we have Bomber Command night bomber and we have the night, what is missing here... Ju 88 in nightfighter configuration of course!
Or I can settle for "Wilde Sau" Fw 190A-5.
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jochen
Jagdflieger JG 2 'Richthofen' Aces High
Geschwaderkommodore (on leave) Jagdgeschwader 2 'Richthofen' (http://personal.inet.fi/cool/jan.nousiainen/JG2) Warbirds
T-34/76 to Aces High!
Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes
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A famous quote comes to mind
"Hhrmmph! Just looks like another target to me"
Robert Shaw, AirWarrior Convention 2000
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
"Real Men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires"
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WTG!!!
NOW imagine .. Lancasters beeing escorted by SPits and Typhys..
MOAHAHAHHA
ALexander
Gorf
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Can you imagine hunting one of those at night with icons off . HOT DAMN !
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BEAUTIFUL....Simply Beautiful.
I WANT IT NOW!!!!!! And then the Mossie!!!
Now the waiting becomes another form of hell on earth.
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HOOOO HAAAAA!!! WTG nate and super (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)... some mighty fine work you guys are doing <S>
Bee
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Delta--
That's an in-game screenshot from SDOE. The Lanc is a modification I did of the original Lanc that shipped with the game (SDOE permits user-creation of aircraft if you have a lot of patience and a sense of humor and remember how to use DOS) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
The bouncing bomb works--sorta--but there are some limitations with the way water acts in SDOE, and the weapons blast is overmodeled to the point that you have to reduce the explosive weight quite a bit if you want to drop anything at low level.
Hopefully the various 617 Sq weapons will become options on the AH Lanc at some point. Put some bridges and sub pens (and DAMS of course) around the terrain and you could do some neat quickie scenarios... Not entirely historical, but lots of fun for the buff gang.
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OMG =)
Nate, Pyro - please *email* me your pizza order and where to have it delivered to...
Question: Would it be possible for you to implement (obviously later =) variants such that you could have two aircraft *exactly* the same bar the colour scheme?
Oliver "kfsone" Smith
PS - Jedi - Why did you pick S for Sugar instead of G for George?
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Hehe I was using the text tool to make the letters on the skin for the model, and the "G" didn't look right (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The next plane I remembered was S-Sugar, and the "S" looked OK (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Nate
Looking carefully at the screenshot and some snaps I have of the Lancaster IV that was at Duxford (maybe you should come over and take a look yourself =)
Whilst it's one of the best renderings of the Lanc I've seen; somehow the engine nacelles don't quite look wide enough. It might just be a visual artefact of the angle?
Oliver
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Wow!
Can't wait to woof some `cookies' out of that bird! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
(http://www.devildogs.com/vmf111/sdsig2.gif)
[This message has been edited by Sundog (edited 08-04-2000).]
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Great Job HT !!!!!!!!
This momma will be able to take down 4 hangers w/ it's 14,000 bomb load ,yeeeeeee haaaaaa. Ya better get up and shoot this buff down before it closes your base !!!!!!
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*nate*
Comparing the screenshot with some more pics I have of Lancs... I couldn't put my finger on it until just now...
The nacelles in the shot look distinctly like Spitfire noses =) The real things look a bit more 'muscular'. Like the nose of a labrador compared to the nose of a greyhound?
Oliver
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14,000 # load .. hehe watch out A1 ! Looks great ! where's the belly gun? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by skippy (edited 08-06-2000).]
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Thnx KFS, I'll look into it.
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Nathan "NATEDOG" Mathieu
Art Director
HiTech Creations
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".... And on the eighth day, God created beer. "
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The absence of a gun possition below the aircraft was and is one of this magnificent aircrafts most significant downfalls. The rear gun position can pivit down to about a 150 degrees but then the gunner would be smaking his head agains the glass trying to follow a bogey.
Atleast they modeled the twin 50cals in the picture, there was a model that flew with .303 of I remember correctly. Nice thing about the gun positions is they were able to carry more ammo then the American counterpart the B-17.
High altitude or very low is where this plane will excell in my opinion and from what I have read of its successes in history. I would love to see some dams in AH preferably next to the various cities located throughtout.
BOOM! aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh splash! gurgle gurgle gurgle! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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TC
Eagles AM
http://www.eagle-nest.org
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Hehehehe
Spit Dweeb and Lancaster Bore at your service.
Some pros and cons of the Lanc (and all its varients)
1) Max Service ceeling 25,000 feet. (Yup, that's right)
2) Up till 1944 ALL Lancs were gunned by .303s NOT .50 cals. The reason for this being that as they flew unescorted, at night, they needed to limit the range of the guns so they didnt end up shooting each other down (.303s very nasty at close range, utterly useless at long range)
After 1944 Lancasters were opperated in daylight, and equiped with .50 cals for both daylight and night opps. But they were still vunerable.
3) Payload unmodified 14,000 lbs. Usual Pay load was 4,000 cookie, 8, 0000lbs eggs and 2,000 incend.
4) Dont expect climb to be more than 250 feet/min
5) But as a bombing platform, this was the best in terms of pay load till the B29 arrived.
(http://www.nucleus.com/~ltwright/lanc_side.jpg)
Lancaster Mk.I/III
(http://www.nucleus.com/~ltwright/lancmk2a.jpg)
Lancaster Mk.II
(http://www.nucleus.com/~ltwright/gs-617sq.jpg)
Lancater Mk.BI (Special) - Grandslam
General Lancaster Data
Crew of seven:
Pilot, Flight Engineer, Navigator, Bomber Aimer, Wireless Operator and two Air Gunners.
Engines:
Mk.I
Four Rolls-Royce Merlin XX or 22, 12 cylinder 60 degree vee-type liquid cooled inline engines with two stage supercharger.
Mk.II
Four Bristol Hercules VI or XVI, 14 cylinder sleeve-valve, air cooled radial engines with two stage centrifugal superchargers.
Mk.III
Four Packard Rolls-Royce Merlin 224, 12 cylinder 60 degree vee-type liquid cooled inline engines with two stage supercharger.
Mk.X
Four Packard Rolls-Royce Merlin 224, 12 cylinder 60 degree vee-type liquid cooled inline engines with two stage supercharger.
Dimensions:
Span : 102'-0" (31.09 m)
Length : 69'- 6" (21.18 m) - tail up
: 68'-10" (20.98 m) - tail down
Height : 20'- 6" ( 6.25 m) - tail up
: 20'- 4" ( 6.30 m) - tail down
Undercarriage track: 23'-9" (7.24 m)
Wing Area : 1,300 sq.ft (120.80 sq.m)
Tailplane Area: 237 sq.ft (22.0 sq.m)
Tail Fin and Rudder Area: 111.40 sq.ft (10.35 sq.m)
Weights:
Tare : 36,000 lbs. (16,740 kg)
Empty Equipped: 41,000 lbs. (18,600 kg)
Loaded Weight : 45,000 lbs. (20,412 kg)
Normal Gross : 55,000 lbs. (30,840 kg)
Max. Take-off : 72,000 lbs. (32,660 kg)
Performance For Merlin Equipped Lancaster's
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Maximum speed at normal weight:
271 mph (436 km/h) @ 6,250 ft (1,905 m)
281 mph (452 km/h) @ 11,000 ft (3,350 m)
Maximum weak mixture curising speed:
227 mph (365 km/h)
Most economical curising speed:
216 mph (346 km/h) @ 20,000 ft (6,100m)
Maximum permissible diving speed:
360 mph (579 km/h)
Time to climb to 20,000 ft (6,100 m):
41.6 minutes
Rate of climb:
250 ft (76 m) per minute
Service ceiling at maximum weight:
20,000 ft (6,100 m)
Service ceiling at mean weight:
24,500 ft (7,470 m)
Runway length required to take-off and reach 50 ft (15 m) at maximum weight:
1,550 yards (1,420 m)
Landing distance from 50 ft (15 m) at mean weight:
1,000 yards (915 m)
Range:
1,040 miles (1,670 km) with 10,000 lbs (4,540 kg) of bombs.
2,680 miles (4,310 km) with 7,000 lbs (3,180 kg) of bombs with an additional 400 gallon (3,180 L) auxiliary fuel tank installed.
Armament for the standard variant:
2 - 0.303" machine guns in front turret, 4 - 0.303" machine guns in rear turret, 2 - 0.303" machine guns in mid-upper turret,
Maximum bomb load:
14,000 lbs. (6,350 kg) standard variant.
22,000 lbs. (9,979 kg) special variant.
(http://www.netmontage.co.uk/airspeed/pix/riat97/lanc.jpg)
http://www.nucleus.com/~ltwright/LowPass.wav (http://www.nucleus.com/~ltwright/LowPass.wav)
Click on the above to hear that baby fly by.... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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beautiful (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
ram stop calling brit planes ugly..or show me a pretty spanish one... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hopefully the loadout will let us choose the following....
Loadout 1:-
14 bombs of either:–
500lb GP; 250lb SAP; 250lb B Mk III; 1000lb USA Type; 500lb SAP; 250lb AS; 600lb AS; 1000lb MC; 250lb GP; 250lb LC; 250lb Small-Bomb containers; 1000lb GP Short Tail type.
Loadout 2:-
8 x 500lb & 6 x 250lb AS (Mk IV only)
Loadout 3:-
6 x 500lb & 3 x 250lb AS and 5 x 250lb SAP
Loadout 4:-
6 x 1000lb & 3 x 250lb GP
Loadout 5:-
1 x 4000lb HC & 6 x 1000lb GP (Short tail type or USA type 1000lb) & 2 x 250lb GP
Loadout 6:-
6 x 1500lb A Mines or 6 x 2000lb HC Bombs
Loadout 7:-
6 x 1900lb & 3 x 250lb GP
Loadout 8:-
6 x 2000lb AP & 3 x 250lb SAP
Regards
'Nexx'
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looks pretty, I would like to order mine now...
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Will this plane have rediculous clipping issues as bad as the B-17? Or will they be as subtle yet annoying as all of the other planes?
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I don't understand your question Antix?
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I will enjoy shooting down this piece of crap opportunist scrap heap metal collection.
With all those bombs, and no ball turret, even my 109 will be able to bring it down.
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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime
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Originally posted by Replicant:
Hopefully the loadout will let us choose the following....
Is there any danger of having the histocical load outs of BIG BOMBS
4000lb cookies etc
SC with incenderies
Window to screw up radar....
This aircraft is optimised for flattening cities and factories - not pinpointing acks and hangers.
All it needs is some inventiveness with the ordnance.
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i have had an accident in my trousers
..and im drooling
hi kfsone long time no see
(where the hells my credit card i think i feel the need to fly this)
regards
Tomb
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Originally posted by RAF71_TC:
High altitude or very low is where this plane will excell in my opinion
High altitude? The Lancaster had a flight ceiling of 25,000 ft. With the heavy bombloads it will be a joy to shoot down. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Rendar