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Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Curval on May 16, 2003, 05:15:09 PM
A disney idea for "disposable" DVD rentals...

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Title: How lame is that?
Post by: GtoRA2 on May 16, 2003, 05:22:43 PM
Is this a ploy to up the value of the DVDs you can buy so the market stops being flooded by the rental DVDs when they get sold?
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: vorticon on May 16, 2003, 05:33:42 PM
48 hours...more than enough time to illegaly copy it...basicly your jhust buying the movie for outragous prices considering you only have it for 48 hours...what a waste...me i still prefer vhs
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 16, 2003, 05:33:53 PM
whoopeeed DIVX-like crap again, people dont want to pay for limited use low feature disposable DVD... You know this is utterly shameful and stupid of the studios because the DVD collection market that has develobed because regular DVD is so cheap on first release has been extremly profitable just by itself and by drumming up massive following for films in DVD release. The Matrix is a perfect example BTW and that lead to the wild popularity and buzz about the sequals if not outright making them possible. And now they are trying it again - will they never learn...
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 16, 2003, 05:34:58 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
48 hours...more than enough time to illegaly copy it...basicly your jhust buying the movie for outragous prices considering you only have it for 48 hours...what a waste...me i still prefer vhs


VHS is garbage, dump it and get regular DVD now. :)
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: vorticon on May 16, 2003, 05:43:03 PM
HA NEVER...not until they make rerocordable dvd's and a burner for them on the drive so i can record my favorite shows...and dont tell me to get one of those little boxes that i can record with...they only work with sattelite or cable...not with standard antenna stuf...
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: GRUNHERZ on May 16, 2003, 05:46:50 PM
They allready have recordable DVD and burners that you can hook up to the TV...
Title: Vort
Post by: GtoRA2 on May 16, 2003, 05:48:28 PM
You can get DVD recorders now... for both the PC and standalone ones.
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: vorticon on May 16, 2003, 05:55:55 PM
rewritable ones???
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: XNachoX on May 16, 2003, 05:58:34 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
rewritable ones???

Ja.  We even have one that you put in a VHS tape and you can record it to DVD.
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Title: Yeah for the PC for sure
Post by: GtoRA2 on May 16, 2003, 05:58:59 PM
And I think set top ones too...

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Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Pfunk on May 16, 2003, 06:29:29 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
rewritable ones???


I got an HP 300i 4X DVD+R +RW for $150, pays to look at slickdeals.net :)  I have already burned my roomates entire dvd collection consisting of 30+ DVD's for the mere some of $1.70 per blank DVD, you have to rip them and then reencode them, the quality is not noticeably different from the original.  Found a neat software program that allows you to take out all the bullshat like directors commentary, special features etc, which helps bring a 7-9GB dvd down to the 4.3GB that a blank will hold.  The drive has already payed for itself and them some.
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: gatso on May 16, 2003, 06:30:40 PM
We discovered a great company a couple of months ago. You pay a small subscription per month (£12, about $17ish) and they'll send you 2 DVD's through the mail. Keep them as long as you want and then send them back in a pre paid envelope and they'll send you 2 more. We had 16 sent to us in the first month and as far as I'm concerned thats a bargain when compared to regular rental prices.

I heard about self destructing DVD's a few years ago, the idea as I remember it was the media layer oxidised and turned black. After a period of time the disc would become unreadable. That's fine in theory but give it 18 months and DVD-R drives will be down to $100 and the way will be open for mass copying on the  scale of CD's. It isn't going to do any good at that point.

Gatso
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: XNachoX on May 16, 2003, 07:30:10 PM
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Originally posted by Pfunk
I got an HP 300i 4X DVD+R +RW for $150, pays to look at slickdeals.net :)  I have already burned my roomates entire dvd collection consisting of 30+ DVD's for the mere some of $1.70 per blank DVD, you have to rip them and then reencode them, the quality is not noticeably different from the original.  Found a neat software program that allows you to take out all the bullshat like directors commentary, special features etc, which helps bring a 7-9GB dvd down to the 4.3GB that a blank will hold.  The drive has already payed for itself and them some.


What program's this?  I could use it.
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Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Pfunk on May 16, 2003, 08:28:32 PM
Do a google search for DVD decrypter, that is what you use to rip the DVD to the HD, you can use DVDShrink or Pinnacle InstaCopy. DVDShrink i think is free, InstaCopy you have to buy but if you know your way around MIRC you can find it easily, then go to the webpage below and download the registry hack and update that allows you to delete stuff.  This webpage has a very good tutorial

http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/141024.php
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Dinger on May 16, 2003, 11:19:20 PM
well, if you've ever rented a DVD, you can see why "disposables" would be reasonable.  A VHS cassette can stand being rented out several times without significant degradation, but thumbprinted, scratched DVDs are just unmanageable.
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Torque on May 17, 2003, 02:15:43 PM
You can still rip and burn a DVD with just a DVD player and a CD burner on your puter, it will take two cds though for a regular DVD player to read it.

DivX and XVid codecs can reduce a DVD down to 700+ mgs.

I did read awhile ago about a company that was planing on releasing a DVD player that was DivX capatible must be the reason for the recent drop in DVD everything.

If you have a S-Video out and a surround card just play them straight from your HD.
Title: Self Destructing DVDs
Post by: Gunthr on May 17, 2003, 08:27:36 PM
Fast forward ten years. I wonder if movie stars will make as much money as they do today?