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Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 19, 2003, 07:40:06 PM
just wondering if aces high plans to stick in a dive bomb site for dive bombers like stuka and othere's?
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Rutilant on May 20, 2003, 10:40:51 PM
did they *have* divebomb sights? besides the B5N we have now.. Use the <-- key till you center on the black tube.
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: brady on May 20, 2003, 11:08:22 PM
Yes they did have dive bomb sight's, the JU 88's did and the AR 234 did as well amongst other's.
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 21, 2003, 02:32:59 AM
ya,,lots of planes had dive bomb sites,,which was model in air warrior 3,,,any plane with diveflaps had a flip up dive bomb site,,and even hellcats and corsairs had them too i beleve


im just wondering if aces high 2 will add this,,seems to be a very importaint peace of divebombing,,and i dont think it should be left out,,only thing i didnt like about aces high,,was the missing dive bomb site
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Rutilant on May 21, 2003, 01:21:12 PM
How would they work much better than just using your crosshairs?
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: najdorf on May 21, 2003, 01:35:43 PM
The dive bomb site in AW worked pretty much the same way as the one in the training arena.  Made divebombing very easy.
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 21, 2003, 02:02:53 PM
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How would they work much better than just using your crosshairs?
 instead of guessing with crosshairs,, the divebomb site lets you know when your strait up and down,,and the divebomb crosshairs wont appear till your completely vertical,,and gives you a nice x when your right on your target

that site made dive bombers way more accurate,,and it was used in many planes that were made for killing tanks boats and targets,,,,makes dive bombing ships more realistic and easier

i was just wondering if they planned to incorperate this into aces high 2,,,if they wanna go for realism,,they will have to add this site
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Rutilant on May 23, 2003, 01:30:33 AM
Hehe.. I always find it funny when someone sayd 'They have to add (###) or it won't be realistic!" or along those lines..

But anyway.. I wouldn't want it too easy..
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Nifty on May 23, 2003, 09:32:27 AM
actually, the D3A1 is the Japanese plane with the divebomb sight.  The B5N2 has a torpedo sight, which I'd love to be functional!  That would be so cool!  :)
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Rutilant on May 23, 2003, 12:49:22 PM
Oh yeah.. silly me  :)
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 23, 2003, 02:31:40 PM
it would make it more real because thats what alot of planes had,i would love to see a divebomb site and torpedo site,,would make it a more well rounded game

im not tring to make a argument here,,im just tring to point out what else needs to be done if they wanna improve on aces high like the thread says,,i was just thinking one day,,were is the divebomb site ? wouldnt be hard to make one for the game im sure{good points on the torpedo site}
Title: P51 A2A vs A2G reticles
Post by: Hyrax81st on May 28, 2003, 10:49:01 AM
I meant to post this in here originally, not create a new thread...


I like the idea of using the attack reticle as a separate sight from the fighter reticle. These reticles were both available on the K14b computerized sight used in several planes like the P51, P47 and P38 depending on the model.

Check out the two different reticles used for the P51 at the following link:

http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~nabezo/AH/gunsight/gunsight.htm
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Sakai on May 28, 2003, 11:23:52 AM
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Originally posted by hyena426
that site made dive bombers way more accurate,,and it was used in many planes that were made for killing tanks boats and targets,,,,makes dive bombing ships more realistic and easier

i was just wondering if they planned to incorperate this into aces high 2,,,if they wanna go for realism,,they will have to add this site



Hmmmmmm . . .I thought the DB sight in AW, te FAP reticle?  Was modern technology applied to the planes ot make them more fun to fly and easier to hit with.  The entire gunsight--not just the DB sight--was an FAP.

Sakai
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 28, 2003, 03:21:08 PM
im not sure sakai,,germans had the Stuvi 5B divebomb sight i beleve sence 1939,,and so did alot of planes,,,i figure if they didnt have to guess back then,,we shouldnt have to guess in aces high,,dive bombing back in the 1940's was alot more accurate then level bombing


but you mite be right,,i wasnt dive bombing back in 1940's,,but i beleve even the dauntless divebomber had a dive bomb sight
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Sakai on May 28, 2003, 03:51:55 PM
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Originally posted by hyena426
but you mite be right,,i wasnt dive bombing back in 1940's,,but i beleve even the dauntless divebomber had a dive bomb sight


All planes had sights of some kind, but did they have floating aiming point reticles (that is:  a computer optimised lead computing sight?)  I don't think they did.
That is why I say that although they all had sights, they were not as sophisticated as the one in Air Warrior.

Sakai
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Sakai on May 28, 2003, 04:38:29 PM
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Originally posted by Oedipus
The one in AW belonged more on an FB-111 than a WWII airplane.


That was my understanding as well.

Sakai
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 29, 2003, 01:23:06 AM
im not talking about a divebomb site just like air warrior,,but any divebomb site,,anything would be nice,,,most divebombers had somthing to tell them when the dive angle is right ,,,right now we have nothing but guess work,,atleast most ww2 divebombers had somthing to show how vertical they really were instead of just guessing

im not sure if they had a floating sight like in air warrior but they did have a dive bomb site atleast,,,and more accurate then any level bombing at the time
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 29, 2003, 02:56:56 AM
yup,,you are right tw9,,i hit plenty of ground targets after getting use to guessing,,but why should we have to guess?,,,,dive bombing suposta be the most accurate way to deliver bombs in ww2,,,but in aces high the level bomb site out does diveboming for accuarcy,,its backwords,,lol


sure with pratice we all got use to not having a site,,,but does than mean it should be left out?,,its allmost like saying,,you dont need a gun site for your guns after you get use to it,,its fine,,,hehe would you all be happy if aces high had no gun or bomb site and expected you to just guess?

all im saying is,,it was on most planes and its a viable ww2 site,,and would be nice to see it in here too,,i beleve most othere ww2 sims have a divebomb site,,im just wondering if aces high plans to stick one in,,that all
{not making a argument} just seeing what pyro or any of aces high staff have to say about divebomb site,,if they respond:)
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: Rutilant on May 29, 2003, 04:00:30 AM
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Originally posted by hyena426
-snip- but in aces high the level bomb site out does diveboming for accuarcy,,its backwords,,lol -snip-




not when I'm doin it! :D
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: hyena426 on May 29, 2003, 04:02:25 AM
hehe funny,,lol
Title: will aces high 2 have a divebomb site?
Post by: BenDover on May 29, 2003, 08:49:56 PM
Rutilant, is that m8....air born?