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Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: Ripsnort on May 22, 2003, 10:07:08 AM
I think it may be money well spent.  

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Research and Development Programs. Titles VIII and IX would authorize the appropriation of $6.6 billion in 2004 and $39.9 billion over the 2004-2008 period for various programs related to energy and science research, development, and demonstration. Over half of this funding would be allocated to science programs administered by the Department of Energy (DOE), with most of the balance going to research and development related to energy efficiency and various fuel sources. In total, we estimate that fully funding these programs would cost about $3.1 billion in 2004 and $33.9 billion over the 2004-2008 period.



Funny, last night the slanted NBC had their usually questionable poll numbers about how Bush is doing is job.  One of the polls were "How do you think Bush is handling the his job related to Energy"  Well, they had 2 answers, the 2nd one was grouped to skew the report.
A) 48% said "Good"
B) 52 % said "Fair or poor"
Note how they grouped fair and poor together.  I'm betting "poor" results were 1/2 of the 52% total. ;) The real results probably looked like
A)48% good
B)22% fair
C)30% poor
But hey, polls and inaccuracy go hand in hand when major networks do them.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: ra on May 22, 2003, 10:21:36 AM
Research money does not necessarily produce any energy solutions.  I have perfected a method of converting beans into methane, but nobody will pay me anything for it.
Title: Re: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: Martlet on May 22, 2003, 11:08:10 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I think it may be money well spent.  



Funny, last night the slanted NBC had their usually questionable poll numbers about how Bush is doing is job.  One of the polls were "How do you think Bush is handling the his job related to Energy"  Well, they had 2 answers, the 2nd one was grouped to skew the report.
A) 48% said "Good"
B) 52 % said "Fair or poor"
Note how they grouped fair and poor together.  I'm betting "poor" results were 1/2 of the 52% total. ;) The real results probably looked like
A)48% good
B)22% fair
C)30% poor
But hey, polls and inaccuracy go hand in hand when major networks do them.


I saw that and laughed my butt off.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: rpm on May 22, 2003, 12:05:10 PM
Research my arse. Just more money to line the pockets of Big Oil. The US is sitting on huge petroleum sources but won't drill. North Texas has one of the largest Natural Gas fields in the world and they have just scratched the surface. Below 10,000 ft there are new deposits of crude that have not been tapped. When the pump price is where they want it the Drilling Rigs will come out of mothballs.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: OIO on May 22, 2003, 12:20:47 PM
Or you can think long term.

If the US has such large oil deposits and one of the strongest economies whilst importing most of its oil... why drill?

Long term, oil in middle east dries up, world goes into deep doodle. Even if an alternative is found for gasoline (like that chicken guts thing), the military (mainly) still needs grease, aviation fuel, etc etc which i bet is gonne be cheaper to drill than to synthesize or convert your current infrastructure (military especially) into the new alternative.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: lord dolf vader on May 22, 2003, 02:05:08 PM
i dont know the chicken guts thing looked like it could produce the whole range of petro from lubes to natural gas effectivly almost free after the construction and upkeep of the plant. they run the process on the lighter gasses produced by the process and chicken guts are still dang close to free.

and breeder reactors are a exccelent source from what i have seen no dirty rods ect. build um half a mile underground why not. only need the exchangers on the surface really.

hard to imagin a world without huge oil companys.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: ra on May 22, 2003, 02:10:02 PM
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hard to imagin a world without huge oil companys.

If there was an economically viable replacement for oil, the Japanese would have adopted it by now.  

ra
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: Sixpence on May 22, 2003, 02:31:52 PM
Biodiesel  http://www.biodiesel.org/


Any fuel that can run out is not the answer. This fuel is infinite, as long as you can grow, you can fuel.

http://www.biodiesel.org/resources/pressreleases/gen/20030508_Air_Force_One_dragster_sets_record.pdf
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: lord dolf vader on May 22, 2003, 02:34:13 PM
they waited till we perfected breeder reactors. to start building them wholsale ( we have none).

apparently the chicken guts thing is one of thos simple ideas no one ever thought of. including the japanese.
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: crowMAW on May 22, 2003, 02:40:59 PM
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Originally posted by ra
Research money does not necessarily produce any energy solutions.  I have perfected a method of converting beans into methane, but nobody will pay me anything for it.

Why is that brining up images of a MadMax movie?  Hmmm...are you a MasterBlaster? :D
Title: Anyone following the Energy Policy act of 2003?
Post by: Holden McGroin on May 22, 2003, 04:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
hard to imagin a world without huge oil companys.




It isn't hard if you try
Nothing to drill for
Above us ozone way up high
I drive a car called an Insight,
it gets 70 miles per

You may say that I'm a dreamer...

But I'm not the only one