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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Reschke on May 23, 2003, 09:51:24 PM
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$189 AMD XP2800+ "Barton" 333 FSB Retail
$129 ASUS A7N8X Deluxe v2.0
$138 GeIL PC3200 DDR400 2 x 512MB
$89 Chieftec Server Case with 450W PS
Total = $545 with free shipping via FedEx Ground all from NewEgg. Should be going in sometime next weekend.
Local shop here in town was higher for the exact same stuff except PS and memory. From NewEgg I was able to get the same case with a different power supply cheaper and more memory. I love buying local when possible but this is just damn ridiculous. I know these guys have to pay rent and make payroll and NewEgg gets huge volume discounts but as I said. These local prices were just damn ridiculous.
$99.99 for Chieftec server case
$69.99 for Enermax 350W PS
$169.99 A7N8X Deluxe v2.0
$119.98 whatever store had available tonight DDR400 256MB x 2
$279.99 for AMD XP2800+ "Barton" 333 FSB Retail
$799.14 = Total after local taxes
The only thing that is salvageable from my toasted/roasted system is my video card. Thank goodness for that since I do not want to have to replace my Ti4400 yet. Next time that will be the upgrade along with my hard drive.
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Now, repeat after me . . . Untinerruptible Power Supply . . . Uninterruptible Power Supply . . . Uninterruptible Power Supply . . . ;)
SOB
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I believe he had a UPS TOB. Repeat after me... Lightning strike cetrified surge protector...
Sorry reschke... our squad is full of tards.
MiniD
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I'd feel a hell of a lot safer with a good UPS on my system than with a surge protector alone. But, then again, I also like to eat paste.
SOB
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Once again SOB... HE HAD A UPS WHEN IT GOT FRIED. But hey... if it makes you feel better, go with it. You loser.
MiniD
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I saw that in your post, but not in his. Since I haven't been under his desk, I didn't have intimite knowledge of his setup. Frankly, I didn't know you looked around while you were down there - always figured you were focused on the task at hand...or in mouth.
SOB
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SOB go back to the hole you crawled out of.
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(http://www.apc.com/resource/images/products/per8t_f_h.jpg)
I really don't know if it would have helped to put a UPS on the system in this case. The power company came through here checking on damage to the power lines in the area. I was talking with the district engineer I know and he said if the lightning ran in on the power lines (as evidence has shown) then I got really lucky the house did not catch on fire. But nothing was going to stop all that power from nailing anything connected to that surge protector. Hell the strike took out two transformers on opposite ends of my street.
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Those local computer store prices you found aren't actually that unreasonable. I have access to 2 of the largest computer distributors in the nation (Synnex and Techdata) to check their pricing. (Synnex does not carry AMD CPUs, but Techdata does.) Those prices are only about 15% over cost. Newegg probably buys by the 1000 lot.
Another thing to note is that a UPS is NOT a surge supressor of any sort by definition. The cheap UPSes you generally find in the office stores are simply a 12V battery and an inverter. The next step up is the inverter and a simple surge supressor (MOV based). The highest grade UPS (like a Tripplite Omnismart UPS) are very large and heavy UPS setups with a line conditioner, high grade surge protection, and of course the inverter and batteries.
(A line conditioner is a variable transformer that adjusts the input line voltage to a constant 117V AC output by using a transformer. Usually these have a range of input voltages from 90 to 140V that they can adjust.)
It's important to note that only the highest grade UPSes available offer surge protection built in capable of defeating a lightning strike. Any good standard surge protector can do that.
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I got so caught up in the UPS thing I forgot the reason why I posted:
Avoid the Geil memory. It often won't even operate at its rated speed.
http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/misc/ddrguide2/f1.shtml
Other than that, it looks like a great system.
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Originally posted by Ghosth
SOB go back to the hole you crawled out of.
It wasn't a hole, it was mini-d's cellar. And if you wanna get mad at someone, get mad at him...he's the one who finally unlocked the doors and let me out.
SOB
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It was worth every penny of it tob.
MiniD
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Bloom...When you say "highest grade", what are we talking here? Like the biggest baddest available from APC, or something like the APC Back-UPS? Not that we have to worry about lightning too much around here, but I'm curious just the same. :)
SOB
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Originally posted by Mini D
It was worth every penny of it tob.
MiniD
I'm just glad you finished your "suit". And thanks for all of that lotion you kept tossing down to me. My elbows have never felt so soft and subtle!
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Originally posted by bloom25
I got so caught up in the UPS thing I forgot the reason why I posted:
Avoid the Geil memory. It often won't even operate at its rated speed.
http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/misc/ddrguide2/f1.shtml
Other than that, it looks like a great system.
Thanks Bloom. I will have to call them on Tuesday and see if they can change that for me. If not I can get RAM at a very cheap cost here in town. The store I got the quote at above is a store I have not done any business with before.
I realize that they are not making that much on the system parts but they are anywhere from 20%-35% higher than all the other stores here in town that I checked with today after ordering last night from Newegg.
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KINGSTON HYPERX, very good prices on it, overclocks like a madman and runs just as fast as crucial XMS or geil and is far cheaper. I have 2x256MB PC3000 running at 200FSB or 400mhz on 5-2-2-2-2 timings, xp1700+ at 2.2Ghz stable.
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Just checked prices on Newegg for 2x512MB of Kingston HyperX PC 3500, $138 for far superior memory as well as a faster speed.
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Or you could get twinmos from this guy, this seems to be the best memory out there for overclocking on an nforce2 board.
http://www.amdforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=206235&highlight=twinmos
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Thanks for the lead there pfunk. If nothing else pans out I may go that route.
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