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Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 25, 2003, 10:14:29 AM
My guess is this guy won't see too many birthdays.
Looks like bike is an Yamaha YZF R1 with topspeed of 270kmh.

http://www.stagas.net/lagus/vids/Getaway.avi


ps: Cops found the driver and most likely he will spend some time in prison.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 25, 2003, 10:15:39 AM
btw it's 80mb vid.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 25, 2003, 11:07:48 AM
Wheelie sitting on handlebars (http://senna.bikepics.com/mpeg/XtreemeMotorsports-V36-Tood-Xtreeme-10sec.mpg)

Here's one for ya... May take a few secs to load up.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: NUKE on May 25, 2003, 11:21:41 AM
I can't d/l the files ( on a slow dial-up in a hotel) but I saw some freaks last summer blow by me on the 101 in Scottsdale.

I was driving in my f-250 ( bad blindspots) at 75 mph when all of the sudden I heard a LOUD screaming, high reving whirlwind of rice burning sound.

Flying by me in-between the lanes were 3 crotch rockets; one guy was sitting on his front bars with his feet forward, another guy was one one tire..... and they were going at least 90 mph.

I told my boss about it and he said he saw something similar and that a bike shop told him they are part of some stunt bike riding team.

It was the most stupid, unsafe thing I ever saw someone do on a bike. If I had wandered even a little to the left, at least one of those guys would be on the pavement......
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Maverick on May 25, 2003, 01:32:29 PM
Even with 640k DSL that was an outragous amount to download. I didn't bother with it.

As far as folks who do stupid things in traffic on motorcycles are concerned, there are two technical terms that describe them.

Legal term, statistic
Medical term, donor

I used to get questions from some motorcyclist as to why I didn't tell them to wear a helmet (driver over age 18) I told them that they knew the value of their skull more than I did and who would I be to say it was worth the price of a helmet. Besides there was a major transplant hospital in town and there are LOTS of folks who need the parts. They would more likely take better care of them too. :p
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: JB73 on May 25, 2003, 02:52:27 PM
while driving on lake shore drive in Chicago 2 years ago this weekedn actually...

i hear a screaming sound like an indy car and ZOOM past me flew 2 bikes each with a passenger (chick i think) on the back.

i was going @ least 55 and from the time i heard the sound to the time they were too far away to see was about 1.5 SECONDS.(http://home.wi.rr.com/jabostaffelhq/images/Hosted%20images/eek2.gif)

my buddy in the car was as freaked out as i was. we were both on our cell phones with our gf's and they said "what the f*** was that?"

he's a police auxillary and we guessed their speed above 150mph.

BTW this was about 11PM at night in the dark with TONS of traffic (due to the holiday)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 25, 2003, 06:20:07 PM
Well in that film there's plenty of traffic, speeding 270kmh (168mph) at the highway passing cars by driving between them and driving thru the town sometimes over 100mph.

That guy must be a suicidal lunatic.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: qts on May 25, 2003, 06:29:54 PM
As Maverick indicated, Organ Donors. Just wave them on their way. It's their choice.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 25, 2003, 07:25:08 PM
I ride with a few motorcycle stunt "experts". They're called the Miami Zoo Crew, and they do shows at the Moroso speedway here in Florida between drag races. I've also seen them do the same crap on I-95 (sitting on the handlebars doing wheelies at 90mph while changing lanes to pass cars).

Two of them are now dead in the last year.

There are two rules in riding fast motorcycles... #1 Don't let your confidence exceed your ability, and #2 If you lose respect for the machine it will teach it to you one way or another.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: RightF00T on May 25, 2003, 08:00:24 PM
Quote
he's a police auxillary and we guessed their speed above 150mph.



lol then....

Quote
we were both on our cell phones


Are those cyclists any more dangerous?
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Hooligan on May 25, 2003, 08:37:58 PM
Well... that looked like fun.  A bit nerve-wracking to be sure but fun.  Anybody know where that film was made?

Hooligan
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 25, 2003, 08:59:33 PM
City of Oulu in the NW part of Finland.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: JB73 on May 26, 2003, 04:10:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by RightF00T
lol then....

 

Are those cyclists any more dangerous?
LOL i know... the sound almost cause me to get in an accident.. but the cell phone thing didnt help LOL
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: SunKing on May 26, 2003, 12:56:11 PM
My father once told me about a call he was responding to. A Biker on the Bay Bridge doing over 100mph while standing on the seat. Turns out the guy rea-rended a slower vehicle and he flew over the car. He described the scene as looking like " a bacon smear more than 50 yards long" as the biker baseball slided to a stop along the pavement. DOA.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: midnight Target on May 27, 2003, 12:09:40 PM
Our Production Clerk / Office Manager was killed Saturday evening when a Suburban pulled out in front of his bike. 22 years old, and one of the most mature young men I hav ever met.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Mini D on May 27, 2003, 12:14:48 PM
Sorry to hear that MT.

That is the biggest worry I'd have on the streets today... and the reason I sold my bike 3 years ago.  The size of the vehicles is going up and the average attention span of the drivers is going down.

Since then, I've had two friends get rear-ended at stop lights and one get run off the road.  Fortunately, they fared better than your aquantance.  Once again... sorry to hear that.

MiniD
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: LePaul on May 27, 2003, 12:25:33 PM
:(

Been hit twice on a bike...once by a kid with the bee-bop music cranked up loud, he veered into my lane without looking.  Dragged me 75 yards.  Lotta road rash  Luckily my FZR 600 had a plastic gas tank or my knee wouldve been hurt a lot worse...my leg went right thru it in the impact.  Helmet cracked in 5 places.  Shoei bought it from me  $3k in damage to the bike

Second time, old fart/couple pulled off the side of the road, tires spinning...spun gravel and rocks all over the curve.  Bad enough I was trying to not hit them, but once the front tire hit all that gravel, the handle bars slapped side to side, so I opted to bail.  Kind of an odd feeling, laying on your backside, sliding into a tree at 30 mph.  Bruised up...only bad stuff was the roadrash on my fore arms...was a hot day, I'd *just* decided to roll up my jacket sleeves up some.  Again, another FZR 600 eats pavement.   Everything engine-foreward mashed.  

Can't vouch for the ones that drive like idiots...but the biggest enemy of the bikes are the unattentive drivers who "dont see you" despite super bright lights and louder after market exhaust sustems  :mad:

Current bike is for sale  :)  3 Strikes and your out
Title: When my boys ask:
Post by: Syzygyone on May 27, 2003, 12:27:30 PM
Why can't I have a motorcyucle dad, I pull out the photos from when I used to drive an ambulance.  The one that usually gets them is the picture of the guy whose right leg had three 90 degree bends between the hip and the ankle!! And he was one of the one that got off easy! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: LePaul on May 27, 2003, 12:34:50 PM
Well, the same can be said for driving a car, flying a plane, etc...the chances of being hit/crushed/mained etc are all there.  I've really enjoyed my time on the bike.  More Pro than Con...you just dont have any kind of protection when stuff goes terribly wrong.  Leather and helmets only do so much.  The human body reacts much like a gooey water balloon in many situations   :(

I put mine up for sale because I seldom use it, and with surgery at the end of the week, I wont have a chance to ride it until August, if Im lucky.  Its just a bike....if I really want one again, they make them every year...

Now If I could find one like they had in BattleStar Galactica 1980, where they lift off and fly away...well that would be a different story.  But with my luck, I'd tag a powerline on take off  :p
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Apache on May 27, 2003, 12:49:26 PM
We just went thru our annual 2 weeks of bike rally's. First week is harley's, 8 killed.

Last week was the crotch rockets. 7 killed.

In a span of 15 days, 15 killed.

Note: All 7 this past week were speed related, all estimated at 100+ on impact.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Puke on May 27, 2003, 12:49:32 PM
LePaul, good luck on the surgery.

I've not ridden since I was 21, when I crashed and slid 141 feet down the street.  No helmet and I was just plain lucky!  It was my own stupidity though, couldn't make the turn.  But like you touch upon, accidents happen but on a bike you aren't protected quite like you are in a car.  I sometimes still wish I had a bike and could just go out on the road and gun it, but then I realize it would be in short order before I killed myself.  I'm now nearing 37 and am still actually licensed for motorcycles though.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: BEVO on May 27, 2003, 01:24:43 PM
That's why I got rid of my bike........ too many close calls. sorry to hear that MT....
Last year a friend of mine got a bike....... sent out an e-mail on Wed with a picture of his "new toy", the next Monday is wife sent out an e-mail saying he had died that Sunday on the bike.
it's a sad, sad thing.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 27, 2003, 02:08:34 PM
Wow.  I was one lucky biker.  On the day I rolled up my 1 millionth accident free mile, I put a "For Sale" sign on my bike and have not ridden one since.

Miss it like nobodies business though.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 27, 2003, 02:10:08 PM
Couple weeks ago on my way to class, I'm in the middle lane of a three lane road that passes through a shopping center area with many more individual stores on either side of the highway and residential areas at either ends... so the road is typically crowded.

I'm in the front with someone to my right and a guy with a crotch rocket to my left. He pulls up to the light, gasses it a couple times... I take that as hes gonna haul bellybutton once that light turns green... light turns green and he's 2 blocks away in about a second, he had to have been up around 150MPH and worked his way over to the far right lane. At the moment he gets over there, lane is clear, then a dude in a white pick up- doesn't check behind him to see whats coming up, pulls over. Biker pulls on the brakes, but hes going WAY too fast with WAY too little braking area, so he over does it. Rear wheel locks up, smoke coming up everywhere and by now his bike is completely sideways. The truck must of been going atleast 30MPH, I'd say 40 since thats the speed limit- and the biker still catches up to him after a good 40 yard side ways skid. He hits the bumper sideways and luckily for him the bike jolted back forward launching him off the bike instead of being caught under it or flying into the back of the truck. The bike slides on its side about another 20 yards and the rider goes bouncing across the ground about 10 yards beyond the bike.

He walked away with a scratched up helmet and knuckles, and the bike lost the right handle bar/throttle but not much else- all plastic body cosmetic work.

Lucky as hell that the bike slid sideways- REAL lucky, otherwise he would of been kissing the pickups fold down gate.
-SW
Title: I have several friends that ride, and love it,
Post by: GtoRA2 on May 27, 2003, 02:33:37 PM
I have never done it myself, growing up my neighbor was an Emergancy room RN, lol everytime I ever mentioned it my mom would go get her and she would tell me all the horror stories.

I have seen people do stupid stuff in cars, but the stupidist thing I ever saw anyone doing in a vehicle was a motorcycle guy.
 
In the bay area 880 south crosses 237, and if you get on the 237 onramp, it has 4 lanes going down to 2 as a the surface street trafic merges with the 237 traffic.

I was in the 2000 Jeep Wrangler, carpooling with a buddy, traffic is going about 25 miles an hour. I hear a motor cycle, and look and it screams past  me acerrating like a fing rocket. right into the area where 4 lanes become two, and he pops a wheely right past my front bumber, and must have acelerated past 80 on one wheel through merging cars, my friend and I where dumbfounded.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Apache on May 27, 2003, 02:40:24 PM
2 of the 7 deaths this week is really heart wrenching. Not that they all aren't but this one more so.

In a group of 15 to 20 are 2 brothers who are leading the pack. They approach a traffic light. They all stop except for one of the brothers, he guns thru. He see's that the group is stopped at the light, so he pulls over to the side of the road to wait.

The light turns green and the brother who is stopped at the light rockets down the road. The waiting brother sees the light turn green, but doesn't look back as he pulls into the road. His brother T-bones him at an estimated 130 mph and kills both.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Greese on May 27, 2003, 03:16:54 PM
About three years ago, my cousin decided he wants the biggest baddest crotch rocket out there.  Sent out the pictures of his new bike and everything.

Short while later (measured in weeks), I get a phone call...

Kid lost one leg (and a good portion of the other), one arm and again, most of the other, several internal organs, etc.  Spent nearly a year on the hospital.

Seems common sense had escaped him (like so many others).  He was going nearly 130 when he slid into a guard rail (after leaving a 200 ft skid mark left from a probably insignificant braking attempt).

Why do people think they are indestructible?  I think a motorcycle is a lot safer if the guy who's driving it is twice as careful as someone driving a car.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 27, 2003, 03:24:01 PM
As long as you ride a motorcycle with one thought, "Everyone on this road is out to kill me."

Then you might get by unscathed.  I never rode faster than the surrounding traffic and always went out of the way to keep out of blind spots.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 27, 2003, 04:08:06 PM
I will never give up riding motorcycles...

Both of my accidents, the person just didn't see me and pulled right out in front of me.

There are two kinds of motorcycle riders...  Those who have been in an accident, and those who will...
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: SunKing on May 27, 2003, 05:28:03 PM
"Both of my accidents, the person just didn't see me and pulled right out in front of me"

well thats a shocker.. isn't that 90% of all cycle accidents? Huge gamble these days with the all the "fast and fuirous" kids on the road.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: senna on May 27, 2003, 05:40:16 PM
He was goin 146mph his top speed for a few seconds. Shrug, I regularly hit 150+ for miles on end. Shsh apache, I know your a cop.

Fast and Furious? I pullup along side them and bring it up .)

No I dont race cars cas thats stupid, as soon as they try to race me I chicken away cas I've had a few shunts with cars and I still suffer pain in my back from it (actually pain is from nother accident with wall and an old lady). I've even had cars try to chop me on purpose etc... Thell pullup at a light, give me  a dirty look than chop me 50 yards down from green. Jerks. Some things to watch out for but I'll never stop riding.

Handle bar wheelies,.. those guys are mental.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Wlfgng on May 27, 2003, 05:42:03 PM
I'm glad I stopped riding like an idiot...
120mph everywhere, back tire most of the time, etc etc..

phew.. glad I survived and gave up crotch rockets.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: senna on May 27, 2003, 05:59:47 PM
Number 1 rule for survival wlf, trust nobody but yourself. Hopefully you have learned to trust yourself. I feel that more today than I ever have.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 28, 2003, 09:19:06 AM
I've been riding for about 20 years now, and trust myself implicitly...

It's the other yahoos I'm worried about... As cautious as I am, occasionally, there's just nothing you can do to avoid an accident when some blue hair pulls out in front of you.

Giving up crotch rockets isn't the cure either. A motorcycle only goes as fast as you make it go. I'll still grab the occasional wheelie, and very occasionally open her up to top speed. There's a nice road here that has no traffic and about an 8 mile stretch with no side streets intersecting it. If I feel the need to open her up, that's where I do it. It's still a risk at 180mph, but at least I know no one will pull out in front of me.

These goofs hauling tail down the interstate weaving through traffic and splitting lanes at 100mph+ are on a collision course with disaster. It's risky enough just putting around in the city, but for those guys, it's just a matter of time before some cop has to peel their carcass off the pavement.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 10:23:57 AM
What Grim said.


And this daft idea that a chopper or tourer is safer than a crotch rocket..........is daft.  The better the bike performs the better it's brakes, stability and cornering will be.  And stable braking and cornering are what's gonna save your life when the blue haired granny pulls out.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Wlfgng on May 28, 2003, 12:02:07 PM
Quote
It's the other yahoos I'm worried about


here here!

when I rode I always wished there were roads/highways whatever that only let motorcycles on it.
those damned steel boxes (cars) scared the hell out of me on the roads.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Erlkonig on May 28, 2003, 12:19:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Swoop

And this daft idea that a chopper or tourer is safer than a crotch rocket..........is daft.  The better the bike performs the better it's brakes, stability and cornering will be.  And stable braking and cornering are what's gonna save your life when the blue haired granny pulls out.


In my experience, the crotch rockets riders are suicidal *******s, weaving in and out of highway traffic over 100mph.  On the other hand, I find myself passing the tourer riders more than vice versa.  Any safety benefits the crotch rockets offer seem to be wasted by the Darwin Award candidates who ride them.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: senna on May 28, 2003, 12:28:26 PM
I always preach safety when I ride as well. Safety first safety first I repeat this again and again in my head.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 12:32:50 PM
Swoop,..I have about the same feeling for sports cars.  I like them for what they do better than most cars can do.

But, there are generally 3 categories that bike riders get sluffed into.

Dirt, Street, and Cruisers.  All 3 types of riders have different attitudes,..again,..generally speaking.  For the most part, the guys I know that own the pocket rockets are pretty much an insane lot.
They get thier kicks by going into the country side and racing each other around the back roads.  Unfortunately, then they race home.
I tell them they are nuts, but they defend thier style of riding like most defend thier religions.

I am a cruiser myself.  I like to ride for the sake of the ride and enjoy the open road for the countryside.

Geez, I miss riding.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: senna on May 28, 2003, 12:38:15 PM
Someday I'll give up the rice rockets and settle into one of these. Course mine will have a larger front windscreen.

(http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/Ducati-monster-S4R--2.jpg)

(http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/features/Ducati-Monster-S4R--3.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 12:50:35 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Erlkonig
In my experience, the crotch rockets riders are suicidal *******s, weaving in and out of highway traffic over 100mph.  On the other hand, I find myself passing the tourer riders more than vice versa.  Any safety benefits the crotch rockets offer seem to be wasted by the Darwin Award candidates who ride them.



Well I do know crotch rocket riders who really are nutters.  Knew a guy once who flipped his Fireblade braking too hard, got up, said "Arse", picked his bike up and wheelied off down the road......but I know even more who aren't insane.   Depends on attitude.

In the US you see waaaaay more cruisers than you do sportsbikes, at least I've always done on visits.  In Europe it's different.

I also used to be a motorcycle instructor (but there's way more money in IT) and still believe that a ZX-6R is easier to ride and safer than a Harley fat boy.......especially one with ape hangers.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)

P.S.  And Skuzzy, dude get a bike.....even if you only take it out on sunny Sunday mornings, it's still a bike and you're still a biker.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 01:03:31 PM
I agree about the ape-bars.  I do not know how anyone can be comfortable on one for long periods of time.
Cruisers are more then just hogs though.  My basic defination of a cruiser is a bike that almost always takes two people to lift from a full horizontal position. :D

My last bike was a Honda V65 Sabre with saddle bags and the sport faring.  I loved that machine.  Built for tall lanky people.  Handlebars just right for long arms, allowing a straight up ride while not stretching your arms out too far.

I know Swoop,..I should get another one, and my wife pushes me to get one as well.  I even went looking a couple of years ago, but did not find one that fit.
The designs today are so far apart in what they are for.  You have pocket rockets, or full dressers.  Something inbetween is no longer around.

If I could find an old V45 or V65 Sabre,..I would probably grab it up.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 01:25:03 PM
Yeah there are!


How tall are you?


(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 01:33:25 PM
Only 6' 3".

I looked at Honda, BMW, Suzuki, Harley....could not find a street ride that was comfortable in that lot.  Now,..in all fariness, it has been a couple of years since I looked.

Hmmm,..is occurs to me you may not understand what I mean by cruiser.  How about sport touring...but more towards touring than sport.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 01:45:12 PM
6'3" aint that bad.  You could try a Triumph.....a 955i is a little too much of a stretch for me (5'11") to find comfortable for long.

Avoid BMW bikes like the plague.....can't really explain why, I just loathe the over-engineered, heavy arsed lumps.

Yamaha are doing some good stuff lately, saw a new bike in our car park only yesterday:

(http://uk.yme.com/Yme2/sites/EUR/resources/BT1100%201.jpg)

The new BT1100 bulldog.  


Kawasaki also just brought out a new version of it's ZX-6R.....but I think they're bug eyed and in green it looks like a bogey:

(http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/bikes/images/ZX636-B1_1_product.jpg)

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 02:06:55 PM
Think saddle bags and two up riding Swoop.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 02:15:14 PM
ok, ignore the ZX-6R.



Any Triumph would prolly suit:  http://www.triumph.co.uk

An ultrasports like an R1/6, GSX-R, 916, etc prolly not a good idea.

Kawasaki ZX-12?

(http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/bikes/images/ZX1200-B2_2_product.jpg)

The block on the back is removable, there's a biiiig pillion seat underneath.  Real big roomy bike, plenty of space for saddlebags, tank bag, throwover panniers and a back box.....although on low octane fuel you might have a problem with steep hills then ;)

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 02:32:05 PM
No chain.  Can't have wife getting all oiled up. :D

I'll have to take a tour of the cycle shops again.  Those classic Triumphs look sweet.  For one up riding, I could be a happy camper with one of them.

Guess I am partial to the older style of cycles.  The new ones look like a conglomeration of M&M's glued together with wheels attached. :)

Thanks for stirring the pot Swoop.  Now I got the itch again...still. :D
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 02:37:27 PM
Oh man not a shaft drive!


A bike without a chain is just......wrong  :D



Nah, actually shaft drive is nice if you're not looking for a power band.  A sports bike will always have a chain, at least until mag lev technology makes the power delivery even better.  

Have a look at the Bulldog on the Yamaha site, I think that's a shafty but the tech specs on the UK site dont say.

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 28, 2003, 02:45:17 PM
I know,..you are right.  Chain is definately more efficient at getting power to the ground, but a shaft drive will allow me spend more time riding and less time cleaning and adjusting.

For me it is not about power, it is about the ride.

Use to have a Norton Commando 750.  Loved that bike.  Best sounding bike ever made, in my opinion.  Even hog riders would give me a nod when they heard it.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 28, 2003, 03:03:09 PM
Hey there Skuzzy,

DEFINITELY look into the Triumph line of bikes. They now make a TON of different models, and have resurrected the Bonneville as well. They're great if you're tall, and if the chain is a problem, they make lubes that don't spray at all. The clean pantlegs on my jeans are proof! LOL

As a former owner of all kinds of bikes, the Triumph is my favorite bike hands down. It's not the fastest bike I've owned, nor is it the most maneuverable. But there's something about it that I just can't put my finger on. I might buy another bike one day, but I won't sell this one. I like it that much.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 03:10:49 PM
And they're British :D

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 28, 2003, 04:40:10 PM
Quote

Originally posted by Swoop
Avoid BMW bikes like the plague.....can't really explain why, I just loathe the over-engineered, heavy arsed lumps.


Dunno, One of the finest weekends was when I took my friends K100RS for a ride. Earlier bike I drove was a Suzuki GSX750 and that BMW was like from another world.
It was stable, comfortable, answered to the throttle like a locomotive even in the low RPM (due the fuel-injection I guess), had best windshield I've seen (I stayed dry even in small rain), radiator kept my feet warm... It was a dream :)

(well I hated those thumb-buttons for blinkers...)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Puke on May 28, 2003, 06:46:13 PM
All anyone talks about are the street rides.  I think the dirt bikes are more enjoyable.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: gatso on May 28, 2003, 07:05:31 PM
Swoop,

What happened post R6+bastard thief incident? Whatcha end up getting?

Fraid I'm still a wannabe, 24 + bad post code = no chance. It's still on the 'must do' list though. I have a friend who's one of the first on the list for a Daytona 600. As soon as he gets it I'm going to drop in on him early in the day when the forcast is for sunny weather :D

Also, you used to be an intructor? Anyone you'd recommend for doing a DA course this summer, maybe followed by some sort of advanced riding course?

Gatso
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: -ammo- on May 28, 2003, 08:20:22 PM
Skuzzy-

Here is a sport tourer  that I am considering. It may fit your needs.

(http://home.satx.rr.com/pointblank/films/zzr1200.jpg)

I like the comfort and the sportiness of this bike.  However I am also considering a FZ1 as well.  Two other sport touring bikes to see are the Honda ST1300 and the Yamaha FJR1300.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: -ammo- on May 28, 2003, 08:23:14 PM
hooligans  4.3 Mb film.  A joy to watch:)


http://home.satx.rr.com/pointblank/films/whackpak.wmv
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 28, 2003, 09:33:59 PM
Are they selling BMW K1200RS models in States?

If yes that could be pretty good option and at least worth of test-drive.

btw Finnish "highway Patrol" is using mostly BMWs, guess they found it would be best when spending several hours per day on the saddle.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: NUKE on May 28, 2003, 09:43:10 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Only 6' 3".

I looked at Honda, BMW, Suzuki, Harley....could not find a street ride that was comfortable in that lot.  Now,..in all fariness, it has been a couple of years since I looked.

Hmmm,..is occurs to me you may not understand what I mean by cruiser.  How about sport touring...but more towards touring than sport.


Skuzzy, check out the Honda 1800 vtx. It's a great bike for a good price. I posted a pic of mine here that you may have seen, but just go sit on one.

It's a cruiser, v-twin btw

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87002
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Chairboy on May 28, 2003, 09:59:04 PM
I really like my Bandit 1200.  It's powerful, fast, but you don't look like a monkey screwing a football when you're sitting on it (eg, upright posture).

Lots of horsepower, inexpensive, predictable even power across the rev band, it's almost the perfect bike.

(http://pages.prodigy.net/jack.loganbill/graphics/bandit5.jpg)
(someone elses Bandit, I don't have a pic of mine online)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: -ammo- on May 28, 2003, 10:40:54 PM
Too bad its air cooled, carbuerated, and really heavy:)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Maverick on May 28, 2003, 11:27:47 PM
I rode for the city for 12.5 years, until a college puke on daddy's money hung a left right in front of me. Two rebuilds later on the right wrist and I can do most anything I wanted to except go back to work on the street. It cost me my career and daily constant pain in the wrist. It was the pukes 3rd collision in 2 weeks. The Officers that came to do the investigation recognised him. He still had a license as his points hadn't hit until after my colision. His mustang was totaled when I T-boned it. The kaw was back on the street a month later.


I still have a bike. I now own a BMW K75RT. It is great for the highway but I like the turning ability and brakes of my old Police KZ1000P. The kaw was MUCH heavier , over 800lbs without me vs. 500 and a few on the beemer. The BMW would eat its lunch on anything but slow tight maneuvering. The kaw was comfy as I was in the saddle for over 8 hours a day but the BMW gets you down the highway in better shape as it was smoother. Now to tell you the truth I still like the old kaw and miss the fun I had grinding the turns on it. I used to have a spark trail over 10feet long turning into the station at the end of the day. I kinda went through the foot pad wear bars fast. :D I do LOVE the foot pads much better than pegs. You have a lot more flexibility in riding positions and sitting straight up with relaxed arms is much less tiring than hunched over and holding yourself up on the bars. The chain on the kaw was dirty though. I hated having to clean all the lube it slung all over the bike.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 29, 2003, 12:45:45 AM
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Originally posted by gatso
Swoop,

What happened post R6+bastard thief incident? Whatcha end up getting?


Nuthin yet.  I'm still waiting for Norwich Union.  


Seriously thinkin bout last years ZX-6R though, the cool looking one, not the bug eyed bogey.


(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 29, 2003, 07:06:09 AM
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Originally posted by Swoop
And they're British :D

I still don't hold that against my bike Swoop... LOL
(http://home.hetnet.nl/~speed4/bikes/955i/ce.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 29, 2003, 07:34:16 AM
Uhmmm,..I am going to have to go through the shops and check the rides out.

The chest high gas tanks bother me a bit.  I would like to stay in the 600 pound (dry) weight range.

I guess I know what I will be doing this weekend. :D
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 29, 2003, 07:44:51 AM
600lbs dry?

Good grief man, I never rode a bike that weighed over 450.  My R6 was 360lbs.


I think you'd be best off with the retro style Triumphs.  Low tank, great styling and unless you buy every custom chrome bit you can find the heaviest bike they make only weighs in at 502lbs.


(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: lazs2 on May 29, 2003, 09:37:59 AM
Rode for 25 years or so.  Had maybe a dozen bad wrecks some were plain stupidity and DUI kinda wrecks and about half were unavoidable.  By unavoidable I mean that no amount of skill and no bike made would have gotten me out of the situation.

When i rode that suzuki the other day I maybe was going 110 mph about 3 minutes after asking the guy "which button starts it" and "1 down 5 up?"...  

As hoolign said... "the reason you were scared was cause you know that with your credit (no money good credit) you could take off work early and be riding your own by this afternoon"

He was right..  I think that I have learned that the difference between the Harley guys and the sport bike guys is.... the sport bikes are.... well... ugly.. they are ugly and sound awful..  some are allmost embarassing... they are uncomfortable and you can't really get comfortable on em...  THE ONLY WAY TO HAVE FUN ON EM IS TO ALLMOST KILL YOURSELF EVERY TIME YOU FIRE IT UP.

Harleys... they look great and sound even better...  I would have to build it so I would have some respect for it.  You wanna go slow because everyone deserves a decent look at you and they need to get the full effect of the pipes.   You like just looking at the thing.   going through the starting ritual is fun.  We are talking old kicker style bikes here.  

The guys who lent me the suzuki has a pumped up dresser Harley.. CNC heads, cam etc.  it will stand straight up in low gear and do a smokey burnout at will... It will easily do 140 and it sounds squeakin..  He has rode it 500 miles at a stretch... It will not even come close to keeping up with the suzuki.

If I build another bike it will be an old pan/shovel or 70 troublehead.  I will kick start it and probly never bother to go much past 100 mph.
lazs
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: lazs2 on May 29, 2003, 09:42:22 AM
One caveat... my son had a bike I liked.   it was a 70's era ducatti.. it was not a total "lay down, butt in the air" kinda bike... V twin with a kick starter... Very Italian (in a Ferrari kinda way) body and tube work with heavy castings... nice sound.   I liked that bike.   Anyone who seen it and didn't appreciate what it was would be numb.
lazs
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Staga on May 29, 2003, 12:52:50 PM
I loaned a Moto-Guzzi from my friend once; Nice, good looking bike but the sound was like there were some stones inside the engine.
Electric-starter was bigger than in some of my cars and it had a bad habit to "hang", i.e when you pushed the start button the engine did start but the starter was still spinning with the flywheel.


btw has anyone ever drove a Suzuki GT550? That thing was a real Nightmare :D
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Hooligan on May 29, 2003, 04:04:32 PM
This is shameful to admit...

A friend of mine recently bought a goldwing.  First of all it is really, really, really comfy (you all knew that, it's a barca-lounger with an 1800 cc engine).  But it is also surprising agile.  I was truly amazed.  And the engine is no slouch either, the bike accelerates just fine.  Much to my surpise I REALLY LIKE goldwings.

My last roadtrip with this guy I rode about 600 miles over 3 days on my YZF-1000.  It was fun but I can tell you I was a hurting puppy when it was all over.  I was seriously considering buying my friend's old BMW RS until he stupidly let me ride his goldwing.  The BMW is a fine bike, much more comfortable than a sportbike with some nice things like hand warmers etc... but the things I would miss from my sportbike (i.e. smoothness, power and agility) are provided better by the goldwing than the BMW.

Hooligan
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Skuzzy on May 29, 2003, 04:11:10 PM
The Goldwing is one of the best, if not the best, road bikes built.  But the thing weighs a freaking ton!

My brother-in-law had a full dresser (if it could be covered with chrome or lights, or both,..it was),..the thing weighed in at 1300 pounds!

That is just too much bike for most people...heck...I can't imagine trying to lay it down in an emergency.

But it probably is the smoothest and quietest bike ever built.
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Swoop on May 29, 2003, 04:59:33 PM
hell yeah, lay it down and you'll need a crane.


There's always the baby goldwing, I think in the US you guys have the PC800?  We dont get those in Europe, we do get the ST1100 Pan European though:

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/2806642.jpg)

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: GrimCO on May 29, 2003, 09:15:01 PM
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He was right.. I think that I have learned that the difference between the Harley guys and the sport bike guys is.... the sport bikes are.... well... ugly.. they are ugly and sound awful.. some are allmost embarassing...


My Triumph doesn't sound like a sewing machine on steriods... It sounds absolutely beautiful... Low throaty growl... And it's a crotch rocket... One of the things I love about it most :)
Title: Nutcase driving a motorbike
Post by: Heater on May 30, 2003, 06:45:20 AM
Skuzzy,

Just get one of each....
the Sport Bike is fun for point A to B and the curser is fun for the long haul

it's just convincing the wife of the fact that you need em both :)