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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKWarp on May 26, 2003, 01:24:22 AM
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I think HT needs to get rid of the flashing neon sign icons of perk planes...or at least the ones he can. The spit 14 for example...why does that one icon have to tell the world he is a 14 model, instead of just "spit" like all the rest? Same for the F4u models. 262, not much you can do, 163, etc.
Actually, now that I think about it, why does the icon have to tell the enemy the kind of plane you are flying at all? How about just a country symbol? I'd like to see the distance read outs gone too.
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Because people flying perk planes deserve to be punished for it.
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Extra large hot pink flashing icons for all perk planes is my vote.
Hooligan
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This is great.
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mmmm
i think that the icons now permitt a good compromise between realism and playable....
made some adwise-icons telling u that your enemy have a perk plane is good for nothing...
is your must know What are all Kind of plane u can encounter in your sweep :cool:
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I agree w AKWarp..just an nme icon is all thats necessary. Let the pilot id the make and model.
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Exactly the other way round. Allow to ID by icon, but force the color to gray so spotting isn't so gamey dweebish easy.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
I agree w AKWarp..just an nme icon is all thats necessary. Let the pilot id the make and model.
Yeah, cause a tiny 2d monitor is just like real life.
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Actually, u get far more visual aids in here than in real life. Maybe
nme icons only until 1k, then the make will appear. There is no way a pilot can id an aircraft from 5k in real life. In AH the zoom function should be enuff of an advantage unitil close range.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Actually, u get far more visual aids in here than in real life. Maybe
nme icons only until 1k, then the make will appear. There is no way a pilot can id an aircraft from 5k in real life...
Ask Toad about that. You can search for his posts regarding this matter on the BBS.
5K is only 2.84 miles. Aircraft with 30' wingspans shouldn't be hard at all to identify at this distance. In a historical arena, you have the added benifit of having an idea of what you are going to face. In the MA it's anything goes.
...In AH the zoom function should be enuff of an advantage unitil close range.
the zoom function in AH is not like using binoculars. It only narrows the field of view. Having an increased field of view from that of a normal person helps to make up for the lack of peripheral vision. This is why when you are zoomed in the cockpit feels more like what you would think a tiny ww2 fighter should feel like and not a gymnasium.
Personally, I would like to see a system similar to WW2OL's, but smaller.
I think it was Zigrat who came up with the idea of using a bar type indicater that represents distance and an alpha channel that fades in and out depending on proximity and amount of attention paid to the contact. I like that.
...but no icons is difficulty for difficulties sake, not realism.
F.
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Personaly, I would like to see all plane type tags done with, distance counter included. A simple bish/rook/nit icon would do just fine as far as I am concerned. Doing this would bring a new level of skill in to baging kills. Besides, its not all that difficult to tell between 450yrds and 750yrds. ;)
Jeffer
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Originally posted by Furious
5K is only 2.84 miles. Aircraft with 30' wingspans shouldn't be hard at all to identify at this distance. In a historical arena, you have the added benifit of having an idea of what you are going to face. In the MA it's anything goes.
F.
I agreee with the second part, but, 2.84 miles maybe ok during prestine weather conditions, but a little haze, or some glare, or shadows from the clouds and there is no way to id an aircraft from that distance. I think the clear weather and the zoom factor are plenty of advantages for vis. Auto ID'ing planes does take from the skill level required. Maybe AH:ToD will bring some of these "more realism" aspects to the game. Perhaps it is best that the MA be a place where one hones his skills to prepare for the AH:ToD arena.
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Get rid of the 14, but show the V ...
I know Lev is hiding out there somewhere !!!
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I wasn't advocating getting rid of the icons completely, just the aircraft type and distance. Just have the team symbol on it, and color, of course.
If nothing else, at least drop the aircraft type. It isn't difficult to ID the basic airframe...well, not too difficult for most people anyway......
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i like the idea of dropping the plane icon they could move something into the you shot down soanso in a blah blah14!
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Originally posted by Furious
5K is only 2.84 miles. Aircraft with 30' wingspans shouldn't be hard at all to identify at this distance.
Too me 2.84 miles seems like quite a distance to ID an aircraft as an F4U-1D. Maybe you could ID it as an F4U but the exact variant from 2.84 miles? I'm no real life pilot, maybe it's easy to tell what variant it is up there, but in an "apples to oranges" scenario I can tell you that vehicle a mile away is a pickup and not a car but thats the best I can do and possibly most of you.
What about the angle at which your seeing the AC? I'm sure at some angles it's much easier to discern what type of AC it is versus some angles that don't show you alot of surface area.
Maybe they could augment the current system to include the variant in the icon when you get within a closer range.
I dunno, maybe I'm just talkin out my keester again.
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You are forgetting that this is a GAME.... IRL a 109 @ 22k would only have to ID a few planes not the 50+ we have here. same in the PAC .. a zero pilot would not have to recognize a spit or 109.
in this GAME we are playing you could run into ANy plane Anywhere in here. thats why we need and have ID tags. (not to mention the 15" 65556 color video res i know some are flying with) not everyone has the money to get a $150 or more video card just to play a game.
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Identifying is totally easy in real life. Even the most blind and stupid pilot could ID everything from many miles away and close up. That's why friendly fire accidents never ever happend.
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Identifying is totally easy in real life. Even the most blind and stupid pilot could ID everything from many miles away and close up. That's why friendly fire accidents never ever happend.
hahahahahahahaha. Not only did friendly fire incidents happen, but mis-identification was RAMPANT during the war.
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You couldn't identify a sarcasm even if it was flying plan-form at 100 yards in front of you :p
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was just trying to keep the facade up. :)
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CCVI,
You caught a "FISH"....LOL
Flying with icons off is a BiT__! Tried doing some snapshots with Flossy and crew a couple of weeks ago....man that was tough!