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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Rude on October 11, 2001, 12:14:00 PM
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Each week, I will post what I feel is the most pathetic, self-centered, ignorant and childish whine.
The lucky winner of this distinction will recieve the recognition due them and without apology or sympathy on my part.
Here we go...this weeks winning Whine of the Week goes to LePaul for the following:
The ack seems to be incredibly accurate again, and I know my hrricaine got popped while evading through the hills. I suspect it was THRU the hill but since I didnt see the shot coming, I can only suspect. But from other attacks I've made on the cities, using our oragami IL-2, the ack is once again juiced. I can't put my finger on what's wrong, is it too large a caliber, or just too accurate...but the 1 ping deaths are vastly more persitent than ever.
Add to this the ground vehicles are screwed up, the M8 bounces everywhere and if a GV comes near a tree or touches the city, you die. So, the fun with GVs has pretty much ceased for me.
Plus these fluff'n trees. Getting a loaded bomber out of any of these bases is amazingly risky. I wouldn't mind the trees if they 1) Looked real, not like cartoonish 2-d paper cut outs (ala 'southpark' animation) or 2) if they were spaced apart. I mean, check your local airport, if there are trees in the flight path, down they go. I'm told the tree issue is going to be resolved but they still look awful. The Mindaiano terrain is gorgeous, to ruin it with these ugly trees is a real disservice. I'm no Picaso but can't we find something better than oragami~looking things?
Oh and the Pork Points.
Buffs bomb hangars, fields and such and get 1 perk point or so. Some fella in a fighter flies out and about, hammers a train (that doesnt shoot back) and gets gazillions of perks. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
And one further, I don't understand why all of these bugs slipped through. With all of us drooling for 1.08, I'm sure HTC had all kinds of beta testers to draw on. I'm just in awe (head banging on desk) with some of these bugs. No one noticed trees at the end of every runway? No one drove the M8 around and noticed it bounced all over the place? Maybe I'm being fussy since I work for a software firm and know what we go through to develop our product. I'm not going to be rude and suggest how HTC should develop their software, but from a customer stand point, my satisfaction has been effected. While I love the game overall, I really think a lot of these bugs could have been prevented. Maybe I'm overstepping my bounds, but I feel better having aired that.
Hopefully Patch 2 resolves a lot of the issues in this thread.
Anyone have a tissue?
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How is that considered a Whine? err Everything that guy said is simply the truth.
:rolleyes: Rude if you think that is a whine, I guess HTC is/has Fixed Items that did not need fixing.
Who said it anyway? They made vailid points (except the origami tree part) thats render/efficency for FPS tradeoff.
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And do remember that AI ack DOES fire THROUGH hangars and hill edges.
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Lotsa whinin in there
SKurj
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Actually, I don't think Rude is distinguishing between the issue at heart of a "whine" as much as he is in the form of the "whine." The whole last paragraph of the post in question is unnecessary in relation to bringing the issues to light.
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Originally posted by highflyer:
How is that considered a Whine? err Everything that guy said is simply the truth.
:rolleyes: Rude if you think that is a whine, I guess HTC is/has Fixed Items that did not need fixing.
Who said it anyway? They made vailid points (except the origami tree part) thats render/efficency for FPS tradeoff.
Hehe....Hey Rude, here's next week's candidate :)
Cobra
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hmmmm... "Whine of the Week" program.
(Sends Rude a case lot of the finest Kleenex)
You're going to need more than ONE tissue, amigo.. ;)
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Hehe Rude....be careful not to be next week's winner for your whining about whining :p
[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: deSelys ]
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Hehe....Hey Rude, here's next week's candidate
Cobra
:rolleyes: yeah I guess the next time something is wrong in the game. WE should not point it out.
I mean.. Why point out obvious errors :rolleyes:
Keep em... it only makes the game better.
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LePauls post got 7 points in "Whine'o'Meter"
Rudes text got 8 points and bonus points for whine's originality.
Rude you should select your own post for next weeks candidate.
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Well, Rude, I compliment you on stirring the pot and bringing up...well, nothing!
I mentioned, very matter-of-factly, that there were some real issues with 1.08. You're only diehard supporter is Skurj...and that speaks volumes :D
I stand by my comments, if you feel its a whine, then too bad. Ask hard questions, insist on good answers.
Say what you mean, mean what you say.
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LePaul you could have just said...
Ack seems to be too effective with 1 ping hits, and appears to be firing through solid objects.
(the vehicle one is spot on, but you could have done without the "are screwed up" comment)
Trees seem to be too close to the runway for lifting off in a heavy bomber. There's just not enough room to clear them. The trees themselves don't look all that great. Perhaps better modelling of them could be looked into.
Trains and convoys are giving out too many perk points for the ease of their destruction.
And you could have left it at that. You're correct in saying you pointed out real issues with the new release. I don't think anyone is arguing that. However, pointing out issues/bugs is one thing, adding inflammatory remarks along with the issues, then questioning the testing practices of the company (while implying you and your company do it better) is another. Your "extra" comments were unnecessary in detailing the issues, IMO, and is why some feel it was a whine.
It's no different than the posts of "The George FM needs to be looked at as it seems underweight and retaining E too well" vs. "That fediddlein' UFO niki needs to be fixed and anyone that flies it is a dweeby cheater!"
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Actually its very good that Lepaul doesnt hide behind political correctness of fearing that he may Offend someone. Especially in such a dumb topic as a GAME DEBATE.
Why beat around the bush?.. why be fake and say things like oh, I feel that something is wrong, perhaps it should be looked into, something just doesnt seem right. "that sheep may have a chance of rendering my panzer useless" :rolleyes:
If he feels like saying.. This is Jacked up, its freaking screwy and retarted, theres no way in #^## a sheep will... yada yada" (<--example)
hes only expressing a more TRUTHFULL proclomation of what HE Feels.
If it offends people with statments like these, wow, grow up.
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I personally think whinning should be perked. :p
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Thanks, Highflyer.
What amuses me is that since I said those things, its been pig pile the accuser. Let's tear apart the person making the accusations rather than look at what I've said and pointed out.
I just find it humorous so many wanna "cc" whatever HiTech says, as if shoving their chest in the air to show they support him, etc etc. I enjoy a good debate and discussion. No one's really wanted that. I point out some issues and its "How dare I complain" kinda baloney.
Look, kids, if I hated the game, I wouldn't be paying for my subscription, or for another player's.
I just hate seeing a great program like Aces fall on its face with bugs/issues that strike me, as a player, as relatively easy to notice, locate and shouldn't be there. You fault me for pointing that out. That's fine. I respectfully disagree.
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Holy cow and wow.A self elected committee of one to select the whiner of the week,How come I wasn't asked to be on it.I could do it.I really could.I wanna be on it.When are you going to ask me.Come on.I really want to do it.When are you going to ask.What are you waiting for.I can so pick whiners out.This isn't fair not being asked. :rolleyes:
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"You're only diehard supporter is Skurj..."
Well so_O_orry. I was a little late :D
(asks bartender to oblige Mr Rude with a double of what ever he's having!!)
Westy
[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: Westy MOL ]
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LePaul....
My point is this. There is a forum for bug reporting...you chose to throw your noise here in the general discussion forum.
Just get tired of pompous opinions placed where folks feel they make the most noise.
Yours was not a post in good spirit, but a whiny, self centered and childish, hey listen to me and how much I know kinda thing.
Whiner of the Week is simply my opinion of what I consider nonproductive whinin. Ya don't like it, don't read it in the future. And if HT decides I'm out of line, I'll respect that and keep my mouth shut.
I just hate to see a great program fall on its face...
You might just fit better in a different catagory and deserve a different award, but I choose not to go there with this.
[ 10-11-2001: Message edited by: Rude ]
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Originally posted by Rude:
Just get tired of pompous opinions placed where folks feel they make the most noise.
Yours was not a post in good spirit, but a whiny, self centered and childish, hey listen to me and how much I know kinda thing.
Maybe you should read what you typed yourself. Looks like you're doing your part of pouring crap on this board.
Do you think you're any better than LePaul?
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Kettle, hot, black
Who's pompous, again?
And further, I've seen less dignified posts on this BBS for ages, yet my response to someone elses gripe wins me this "award"? So the gripes of others that have been in here all week are OK, but mine isn't? Geesh. I certainly hope others are *allowed* to voice their opinions with your careful scrutiny.
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What part of this statement do you not understand?
The lucky winner of this distinction will recieve the recognition due them and without apology or sympathy on my part
[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: Rude ]
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I think the whine o the week post kicks ass. Looking forward to more whines.
Sincerely,
nikiman.
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I agree with Fatty...err I mean nikiman. The whine of the week is the best thing that ever happened to AH. Keep up the great work Rude!!!
Satisfied customer
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personally i think DeeZcamp whines on the text buffer are the best :D
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Jeez Guys,
This whole thread reads like hundreds of others.
Pilot 1: Pilot 2 is a whiner
Pilot 2: No I'm not you are
Pilot 3: Na, its both of them who are whiners
etc.etc.
Guys its childish and non productive, when are we ever gonna stop this and start talking about stuff that actually matters.
Gremlin.
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Gremlin! Quick! Delete your post before Rude spots your whine about his whining over LePaul's whine :D
Boy this thread is funny to read while at work!....At home, I would choose another way to waste my time though (like being shot down by Nils...)
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I think deSelys' second sentence summed it up for me.
Funny as hell, it's like watching two children fighting over who's Transformer is bigger. :)
-SW
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Originally posted by SWulfe:
I think deSelys' second sentence summed it up for me.
Funny as hell, it's like watching two children fighting over who's Transformer is bigger. :)
-SW
your transformer may be bigger, but mine is still better! It turns into a bug AND a plane as well as the normal robot. :p
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as for the rest... well, my mom taught me if you don't have anything constructive/nice to say, don't say anything at all. What I said earlier was constructive, IMO. I pointed out why some people (including the HTC staff) saw LP's post as a whine and inflammatory by offering an alternative that conveyed the same about of technical information.
Question for you all to ponder for yourselves. Are you more receptive to issues surrounded by constructive criticism or issues surrounded by inflammatory remarks? No need to answer here, just think about it. I know you've all had instances of both, just think to how you've reacted to them.
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Originally posted by Rude:
What part of this statement do you not understand?
The lucky winner of this distinction will recieve the recognition due them and without apology or sympathy on my part
[ 10-12-2001: Message edited by: Rude ]
Ok :)
I hereby annoint Rude the KING OF WHINE WHINERS!! There is no true distinction between the two, and since Rude has pretty much already made this a self-appointed position, and it truly is ok to INSULT people since how you KNOW your safe from bodily harm...no apologies :)
...I just love how normal people manage to turn into complete dicks when they don't have to show thier face. :) Me included.
TUMOR
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Hehe Congratulations Rude !
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My point was simple...not what he said, but the vain in which he presented it.
Those of you who can't understand that will I'm sure not make the effort now to do so.
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What did you expect ?
Your post was malicious and personal attack against another player.
If you wanna play a moderator maybe you should ask if HTC could made you one.
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Well the title of this thread says it all, don't you think? :) :D
Congrats Rude...
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>"Each week, I will post what I feel is the most pathetic, self-centered, ignorant and childish whine."<
You piece of trailer trash, who the **** do you think you are?
Actually I think LePaul was very reserved, I would have told Rude to go screw himself (see note above).
Who made you the judge and jury.
Guess I need to start a "Pompous bellybutton of the Week Award"
Step up Rude... You win...
LePaul pay's his money and they are not fixing old problems, that is the root issue, not how he presents it in the forum.
Of course LePaul also thinks IIS is a solid product
:rolleyes:
[ 10-13-2001: Message edited by: Buzzbe ]
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<S> rude :)
well i thought it was funny :)
fenrir.
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So did I Trell! :D
<S> Rude.
V.
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I side with Staga and I fail to see any humour in his approach, just arrogance.