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Title: WinMX
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 27, 2003, 03:05:20 PM
Just Dled this file sharing program (kinda like Kaaza but without spyware).  Any tips on how to optimize the download speed?
Title: WinMX
Post by: Ripsnort on May 27, 2003, 03:44:50 PM
I'd like to know too, it was the first thing I tried after getting Cable Friday. The DL speed is still kinda crappy for it but alot depends on the connection your host has.  Been using nothing but Cable or DSL hosts when I DL and its still pretty slow (faster than it was with 28.8 modem though!)
Title: WinMX
Post by: LePaul on May 27, 2003, 04:13:49 PM
1) Make a secondary connection....some same primary is faster....never worked for me

2) Dont share anything!  If no one is downloading from you, it wont slow your pc down  :)  

3) "Report" your connection as 14.4  Who wants to bother with anything you have at that speed

Make sure port 6699 is open on your Firewall
Title: WinMX
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 27, 2003, 06:20:35 PM
Ok, did all that stuff... I guess I just dont understand the program well enough - I connect to files like 5% of the time - cant get good speeds, etc.  Gonna have to do some reading...

Thanks though!
Title: WinMX
Post by: Staga on May 27, 2003, 06:39:19 PM
Errr...  I happen to know a guy who checks what that other guy is sharing. If nothing then the pipe will be shut before download is complete.
Same thing with that 14,4kb connection, if someone is having that slow conx he shouldn't use WinMX at all :)
Title: WinMX
Post by: SunKing on May 27, 2003, 08:05:20 PM
Ya alot of people on WinMx wont let LEECHERS take without servering. Even on IRC channels they are cutting out people not mods to their channels. Still Newsgroups are the best for music. Upload an album and then request what you want. That works for me.
Title: WinMX
Post by: capt. apathy on May 27, 2003, 09:23:52 PM
if you are running cable you aren't hurting your bandwidth to share.  your download speed is almost completely controlled by the other guys upload speed. I do limit my uploads to 3 at a time though, and you can set how much bandwidth you allow for each ( upload/ download) so you set the limit on how much bandwidth you risk losing by sharing.  

I onyl share what I've downloaded though.  I just can't bring myself to put new release music that I've ripped to my HD out on the net.  mostly I only D/L or share oldies that are hard to find on CD.

also if you are running on cable turn up your max # of downloads.  mine's at 20 & I've had over a dozen going at once with no drop in individual speeds.
Title: WinMX
Post by: Pfunk on May 27, 2003, 09:55:20 PM
WinMX=crap

You will never obtain very good speeds on it.  The best program out there for P2P is Kazaa LITE, it is kazza with no spyware.  It also comes with a neat little program called speedup which automatically and constantly searches for more users to download from.  I download between 25kbs and 150kbs depending on how many users I am pulling from.


http://www.refosearch.tk
Title: WinMX
Post by: Manedew on May 28, 2003, 01:42:31 AM
ummm upstream and downstream are typicaly independant... how much you download will not effect your upload speed and vice versa...
Title: WinMX
Post by: Tuomio on May 28, 2003, 07:55:41 AM
Kazaa LITE (dont ever use the original) is the number one for music files and small video clips, like Simpsons episodes etc.

eMule is very very good if you want full multi-CD videos/games, in other words big downloads. Its power lies in the "if i am downloading from you, you get extra bandwith" system. This is very beneficial, if you keep your downloaded files in shared directories. Theres also vast amounts of other stuff, security options not being the least, nor the very clever and innovative download agent (which sucks big time in kazaa).
Title: WinMX
Post by: Swoop on May 28, 2003, 08:18:07 AM
Yeah use Kazaalite for mainstream stuff.  For stuff that's hard to find try using Direct Connect.....but then you've gotta search around for the right channel (and some of the channel requirements are rediculous - I've seen channels with just 4 people registered cos the requirements are 40Gb of shared files and a T1).

(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
Title: WinMX
Post by: capt. apathy on May 28, 2003, 09:10:07 AM
my kid D/l'd kazza lite 2 weekends ago. (I'd already forbid the kazza D/l, he thought lite would be ok).  by the time I got home that night he had been d/l'ing most of the day.  the pc would barely run. there where 3 or 4 different running spyware aplications, 6 registry enrys and 20 other spyware files.

so my experience is that kazza-lite isn't as 'lite' as it claims to be.
Title: WinMX
Post by: Siaf__csf on May 28, 2003, 09:17:46 AM
WinMX blows, use something else like Kazaa lite (no ads) or Emule.

Apathy - at least 6 months ago kazaa lite didn't have any spyware add-ons.. Maybe your kid downloaded something extra.
Title: WinMX
Post by: capt. apathy on May 28, 2003, 10:11:23 AM
not sure what all he had downloaded.  all I saw was kazzalite and some avi files.  there was enough spyware apps running that I could barely get the machine to respond.

maybe something he d/'d had the crap attached to it. all I know is after I got all the crap out I uninstalled kazza and deleted everything he d/l'd that day.  what a mess
Title: WinMX
Post by: Manedew on May 28, 2003, 12:09:26 PM
doubt it's kazza-lite....  never found spyware from lite ....  had to be some other program your kid used .. maybe he downloaded a divx codec with spyware (pretty common) to watch tho's .avi's;
Title: WinMX
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 28, 2003, 01:24:36 PM
Ok, so where do I find software that will purge my system of spyware?
Title: WinMX
Post by: Pfunk on May 28, 2003, 01:51:49 PM
ADAWARE

http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
Title: WinMX
Post by: Saurdaukar on May 28, 2003, 02:37:43 PM
Thank you, much.

Im such a tech n00b.  :D
Title: WinMX
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 28, 2003, 02:45:45 PM
It also comes with a neat little program called speedup which automatically and constantly searches for more users to download from.

WinMX does the same thing.... and doesn't contain spyware either.

So are there any real differences between the two programs?

You can only get what the other person is sharing and at their speeds in both of the programs. Niether have spyware, and neither truly optimize download speeds... if you want to enhance your connection use MTUspeed or something along those lines to tweak it.
-SW
Title: WinMX
Post by: MrCoffee on May 28, 2003, 02:50:42 PM
Broadband DSL is usually fixed at around 1492 mtu size. Not much you can do there unless you have a nonstandard ISP provider running larger MTU sizes.
Title: WinMX
Post by: Dowding on May 28, 2003, 04:45:13 PM
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if you are running cable you aren't hurting your bandwidth to share.


Not true. Skuzzy has an interesting post in the connection forum about it. Apparently as soon as you connect to a file sharing program (and have share enabled), your connection continues to get hammered even when the program is shut down. For days afterward. This affects online gaming performance.
Title: WinMX
Post by: Pfunk on May 28, 2003, 06:28:55 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Not true. Skuzzy has an interesting post in the connection forum about it. Apparently as soon as you connect to a file sharing program (and have share enabled), your connection continues to get hammered even when the program is shut down. For days afterward. This affects online gaming performance.



Guess it randomly effects different users because I use Kazaa Lite all the time and have never had problems with connectivity in online games even AH.  Hell I have even been downloading stuff while flying and netstat/variance are flat, even asked guys in my squad if I was warping at all and not a single one noticed anything out of the ordinary.
Title: WinMX
Post by: Manedew on May 28, 2003, 07:26:28 PM
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Originally posted by Dowding
Not true. Skuzzy has an interesting post in the connection forum about it. Apparently as soon as you connect to a file sharing program (and have share enabled), your connection continues to get hammered even when the program is shut down. For days afterward. This affects online gaming performance.


Just get your DHCP lease renewed.... new IP no problem :D
Title: WinMX
Post by: Nash on May 28, 2003, 07:31:39 PM
"So are there any real differences between the two programs? "

I've played around with MX and it's basically the same as Kazaa. The main difference is the fact that waaay more people use Kazaa, so the odds of finding what you're looking for are that much better with Kazaa. Thus, I never did see any point in using MX.