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Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: JB73 on May 29, 2003, 02:12:19 PM
as said in another post "by trademark only"

have you heard this drivel "st. anger" yet?

i heard it for the first time last night on the way home from work....

words escape me. i am thinking of the most gigantic word for SUCK or CRAP in my vocabulary.. none are fulfilling the bill.

the closest i have come is:

supersuckbagofS***retardedscumbucketwasteofradiowavesearmelting garbage i have ever heard.

oh well my 2˘
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: Sandman on May 29, 2003, 02:18:53 PM
Indirectly... Napster killed Metallica.

Directly... it was Ulrich.
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: CMC Airboss on May 29, 2003, 02:20:33 PM
Its almost as if they're trying to get back to their punk-rock roots.   Funny because they don't have any.   Sounds like Punktallica to me.   I liken the mix to a basement made demo with the drums completely drowning out everything else at times.  Where the heck do the harmony backing vocals come from?  They are branching out in a very strange direction that breaks no new ground.

MiG
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Post by: NUKE on May 29, 2003, 02:35:19 PM
That song suks hard. It's almost like they all just got out of rehab and can't write sober. I was shocked at how crappy the song, especially the lryics were.

metallica used to be so good, great lyrics.

Hopefully it's just one crappy song.
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Post by: Nash on May 29, 2003, 04:01:43 PM
Yikes what a stinker. The production is so early eighties (tinny sounding drums with that god awful double-kick way up in the mix, chorusy guitar, burried vox). I've always thought they sucked... but this one is interesting in that it seems like they're really reaching to get back to their roots.

Why, I have no idea... For one thing, they're gonna lose radio... so what do they get in return? They're going for credibility, which they aren't going to receive. After being a made-for radio joke for so long and certainly after the Napster BS, whatever cred they had is long past. This sure isn't going to do it for them. Why they think it's even a good idea to try for it is beyond me.
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Post by: Saurdaukar on May 29, 2003, 06:53:12 PM
Sounds like a demo tape.  I hope the rest of the album is much, much better.
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Post by: Pfunk on May 29, 2003, 07:55:30 PM
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Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Sounds like a demo tape.  I hope the rest of the album is much, much better.


Nah I got the whole album last week, listened to it on my computer and then put it straight into the recycle bin where it belongs.
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: SunKing on May 29, 2003, 07:58:32 PM
Serious disappointment. Sounds like everyone rode them so hard to come out with an old school album. It just sounds like a weak attempt. And what is with this silly Nu-Metal rap for a solo (Korn)  and chorus. Speaking of which I haven't heard one solo yet outta the 4 traqcks I've heard so far. Not even a simple hide behind the wah wah Black Album type. Why is Kirk even in the band anymore? If this was any other band this album would thrown to the curb, only selling cause who they once where. Sounds like they are burned out of ideas.
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: davidpt40 on May 29, 2003, 08:19:21 PM
Oh Jesus this new metallica album is horrible!  Black Album, Load and Reload were good.  This one sucks.
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: JB73 on May 29, 2003, 10:24:31 PM
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Originally posted by davidpt40
Oh Jesus this new metallica album is horrible!  Black Album, Load and Reload were good.  This one sucks.
YIKES... i am longing for the old master of puppets days ... those were bad enough but now this.



also you all seem to compare this to old school.... i dont hear that at all.
it sounds like that uber-chit band system of a down CRAP to me.

oh well my 2˘
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 29, 2003, 10:30:25 PM
Very few bands that have given up their demons (drugs - booze included) sound the same they did.

Metallica is no different, although it began with the Black Album (I still like that album a lot though), went down with Load (few good songs), then they smacked us with that ReLoad crap.

I knew I wasn't going to be buying their new album long before it came out, their MTV Icon show confirmed it all.

Its unfortunate, but atleast theres still all of the good old stuff to listen to.

Can't expect many bands to pump out CDs/music with the same style/vigor/intensity as their early days- no band that I know of has accomplished that... and certainly none that have been around for 2 decades.

My 2cents.
-SW
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: Sixpence on May 29, 2003, 10:30:47 PM
metallica sux
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: NUKE on May 29, 2003, 10:43:36 PM
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Can't expect many bands to pump out CDs/music with the same style/vigor/intensity as their early days- no band that I know of has accomplished that... and certainly none that have been around for 2 decades.

My 2cents.
-SW


The Beatles  did it right, bowed out on top.

It's wierd to realise that John Lennon was only 30 when the Beatles broke up, Paul McCartney was only 27 or 28....they had there whole lives ahead of them after establishing themselves as the measure for any band after them.

Think of all they acomplished in about 8 years time, then look at the Bands that stay around for 20 years and still don't measure up to the same level.
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Post by: Tarmac on May 30, 2003, 01:16:00 AM
I'll buy it and give em a shot.  Got a $15 Barnes&Noble gift card to use anyway.  

I still can't tell if it's just not the metallica I'm used to, or if it just isn't something i like.  

And I'm not gonna download it... that just sounds like beggin for trouble ;)
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Post by: Creamo on May 30, 2003, 02:07:39 AM
I liked the song St. Anger on the radio tonight. Not great, but it will get some play here.
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Post by: devious on May 30, 2003, 03:53:35 AM
IMO their last album worth listening to was Justice for All. The newer ones are crap.
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Post by: Duedel on May 30, 2003, 04:16:10 AM
sry for hijacking

@dtx wir haben jetzt ein eigenes Squadforum hier. Guck mal nach "unten" in der Liste der Foren
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: Tuomio on May 30, 2003, 04:57:03 AM
They started degenerating rapidly after the black album, which i think is one of the best guitar playing albums of 90s. Actually in mid 90s there were many other bands on the peak too, like Faith No More(rip) and Sepultura(rip).

Must be somekind of collective brain tumor, seems like its on terminal stage now. I would hope Metallica breaks soon, so the Kirk Hammett can  start producing some solo stuff, since he is truly one of the best guitar players out there. Totally wasting his sk33lz in those crappy songs nowdays. I bet James could put out some decent stuff too, but he needs to boot his brain, he is no good with this countryish punk crap. I havent heard the new songs yet, but i know exactly how crappy they will be, total BS. :(
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Post by: Modas on May 30, 2003, 08:33:48 AM
Its terrible, simply terrible.

I long for the day of Kill 'em all and Justice....  There's no anger or feeling in the music anymore.  That's what made to early metallic great....  Having a bad day, put in a little kill -em all and everything was right with the world.

Now, it's just noise :(
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: Creamo on May 30, 2003, 08:43:45 AM
Yeah, it's just awful. Terrible.

If they could only pen literary genius songs like hit the lights again. Kill Em All had so much substance in that regard… 'feeling' if you will.

No life till leather
We are gonna kick some bellybutton tonight
We got the metal madness
When our fans start screaming
It's right well alright
When we start to rock
We never want to stop again

Hit the lights
Hit the lights
Hit the lights

You know our fans are insane
We are gonna blow this place away
with volume higher
Than anything today the only way
When we start to rock
We never want to stop again

Hit the lights
Hit the lights
Hit the lights

With all our screaming
We are gonna rip right through your brain
We got the lethal power
It is causing you sweet pain Oh sweet pain
When we start to rock
We never want to stop again




No life till leather? Deep…
Title: speaking of "metal" the new metallica....
Post by: Nash on May 30, 2003, 10:24:50 AM
That's metal (and metallica) for ya... I'm suprised he didn't use the phrase "In the LA heat".
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Post by: DiabloTX on May 30, 2003, 12:23:08 PM
I remember waiting and waiting to get "...And Justice For All" and when I finally got it I thought it was great.  Except for one thing.  Am I the only one that thinks the mix is HORRIBLE??  I mean flat out bad final mix on that record.  Guitars sound thin, the drums sound odd, especially the double-kick bass.  It amazes me that such a great record could sound SOOOOOO bad.  And it is especially amplified by the digital clarity of CD.  Anyone else think so?  The Black album sounds like audio perfection compared to AJFA, of course, Bob Rock is clearly better at it than Fleming Rasmussen.

I actually got to meet Cliff and the gang in '85, on the Lightning tour.  Talk about being an prettythanghole....but, hey, that was Cliff!!
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Post by: SunKing on May 30, 2003, 12:55:22 PM
oh my,  I just watched the video. What is with that dedication at the end to all the murderers and rapists in prison. Bad taste, and bad move...