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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKIron on May 30, 2003, 01:07:25 PM

Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: AKIron on May 30, 2003, 01:07:25 PM

The educational system in the US needs major work. Guess it's just gonna have to hurt a little.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,88107,00.html

Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: Swoop on May 30, 2003, 01:27:19 PM

Lets just say, for example, that if you tested 100 black students and 100 white students......that the white ones scored on average way higher than the black ones.   Will a lib stand up and say the test was biased towards white students?


So if you tested one town's students versus another town's students (regardless of anything else, just geographical location) and one town scored way higher than the other..........would some stats geek stand up and say that town is stupider than this town?  Or was that test biased as well?



The problem with these kinds of testing divisions is that if the test results actually show what most people think anyway then those that tell us what we should and shouldnt think will also tell us the test is all wrong and it shouldn't be like that.  Maybe it's true, maybe (on average) black and hispanic students in Florida are actually slightly less intelligent than white students......or maybe all the white students who live in the same areas as those black and hispanic who scored low also scored low and those black and hispanics that live in the same areas as the white students that scored high also scored high?

Who knows?  Doesn't matter cos the libs have stood up and said it's all wrong anyway.


Libs piss me off.  Just because someone is part of an ethnic minority doesn't mean they can't be of slightly lower intelligence.....or incidentally a small minded thieving little scumbag.  It just means you shouldn't assume they are because they are part of an ethnic minority.  shreckin libs.

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Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: Dead Man Flying on May 30, 2003, 01:49:10 PM

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Originally posted by Swoop
Who knows?  Doesn't matter cos the libs have stood up and said it's all wrong anyway.

I have never seen a single competent social science article where race significantly explains a dependent variable once researchers control for socio-economic factors.  Race doesn't even explain vote choice when you account for partisanship and ideology.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: Dowding on May 30, 2003, 01:54:03 PM

'Dem libs'

Sheesh. Not you too Swoop. Tell me you're not 'doing a Hortlund'.

Shock! Horror! There are people who have stupid ideas about education!

Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: AKIron on May 30, 2003, 01:57:05 PM

Tough problem. How you do ensure education without standards and how do you ensure standards without testing?

But it's not like they just sprang these tests on the students their senior year. I'd bet that every single student required to test had at least 2 years to take the test. They had that same 2 years to do whatever was needed to pass it as well.

Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: Swoop on May 30, 2003, 01:57:41 PM

I musta missed that.  What did Hortland do?

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Title: Opposition to testing requirement
Post by: AKS\/\/ulfe on May 30, 2003, 02:07:52 PM

Black Baptist pastor Victor T. Curry, who likens President Bush to a "neo-Nazi" and his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush to "the godfather, the devil,"

Guaranteed this dip**** doesn't even know what the f*ck a neo-nazi is.
-SW