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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Manedew on May 30, 2003, 08:17:29 PM

Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Manedew on May 30, 2003, 08:17:29 PM: Bet most of you don't even know what i'm talking about... but here.... The FCC votes soon

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56132-2003May29.html

Just seems like one more thing that's makeing this country a scarey place to live
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on May 30, 2003, 08:40:27 PM: ClearChannel is evil.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Manedew on May 30, 2003, 08:45:28 PM: Evil is too kind a word

What scares me is where will i find all the good links like this

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/05/29/ED237674.DTL

Once Clear Channel owns everything

Al-Jezzera? LMAO
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: rpm on May 31, 2003, 03:39:28 AM: Clear Channel is the Microsoft of Broadcasting.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Eagler on June 01, 2003, 12:05:27 AM: mandew ur paraniod
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Maverick on June 01, 2003, 12:33:39 AM: ted turner thought marrying jane fonda was smart too. :rolleyes: :p His opinion on anything is irrelevant to me.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Manedew on June 01, 2003, 02:30:57 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
mandew ur paraniod

And I'd say your ignorant
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: capt. apathy on June 01, 2003, 02:47:44 AM: Quote
mandew ur paraniod

when everyones out to get you, paraniod is just 'good thinking'
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Eagler on June 01, 2003, 09:18:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Manedew
And I'd say your ignorant

nope, just not paranoid
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 09:28:44 AM: We're on the leading edge of satellite radio broadcast which is going to make local radio stations about as influential as local tv stations are now.

This could be no more inconsequential in my mind, no matter which way it goes.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on June 01, 2003, 11:36:46 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Fatty
We're on the leading edge of satellite radio broadcast which is going to make local radio stations about as influential as local tv stations are now.

Until it's free, I doubt it.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 12:08:01 PM: Local tv is still free, what real impact does ownership of that market have?
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Airhead on June 01, 2003, 12:12:15 PM: I tried to look at the link but they wanted personal and private information on me before I could view it. The last guy who filled that stuff out got snatched away in the middle of the night by the black helicopters.

-The Paranoid Patriots
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on June 01, 2003, 12:17:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Fatty
Local tv is still free, what real impact does ownership of that market have?

Until satellite radio is free, it's scope and influence will be limited.

Note: I believe one really cannot compare a subscriber service like satellite radio to free radio or free television though. On a subscriber service, we are the consumers. With the "free" services, we are the product.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 12:37:00 PM: So you believe broadcast TV still has more influence than cable TV sandman?
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on June 01, 2003, 12:52:27 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Fatty
So you believe broadcast TV still has more influence than cable TV sandman?

Is there a difference? Both rely on advertising to maintain their business.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 12:59:17 PM: One is subscription based, one is free.

That doesn't appear to have limited cable's scope or influence though.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on June 01, 2003, 01:10:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Fatty
One is subscription based, one is free.

That doesn't appear to have limited cable's scope or influence though.

I'm probably not making myself clear. Even the cable news networks rely on advertising. When I listen to radio news, I listen to a public broadcaster that relies on subscriptions and listener donations, not advertising. But this is an off-tangent discussion. I shouldn't have mentioned it.

I'm confused... do you believe the local television broadcasters have more or less influence because of stations like CNN and MSNBC?
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 01:38:57 PM: Less, to the point of being insignificant. Radio news is already near that point, and with broadchannel availability in the works it will only become moreso. Radio markets were the initial target of the relaxed restrictions, and are what started the latest round of objections.

I hate to break it to Ted, but local stations (television and radio) will continue to become even more insignificant no matter what the FCC does, because the market has changed.

It's not the same situation as when Ted got started, and the only thing cable gave you was better reception of your local channels and a sports channel to boot. Nor is it a case of local radio/TV being your sole source of news (for most people it's not even a source of news), which made it an obvious case for concern. That is what the regulations were built upon, and it is why they are obsolete.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Sandman on June 01, 2003, 01:47:48 PM: Okay... and you believe that satellite radio will finish off local radio?

If so, I can't see it happening unless the satellite companies either lower their prices or make it free. In any case, there isn't much left. ClearChannel has done a remarkable job squashing local radio in favor of a more nationalized system.

-Off tangent again... I think XM and Sirius differ most from traditional radio because they play music without advertising. It's a completely different relationship between the content provider and the listener than one that uses advertising to pay the bills.
Title: Even Ted Turner thinks it's a bad idea
Post by: Fatty on June 01, 2003, 01:52:11 PM: It's in its infancy stages, once they have the market to profit off commercials and a lower subscrition rate you'll see subscription tiers like cable. (either XM or Sirius will likely be pushed out by the other once it can hit a lower price subscription with commercials making up the difference)

Kill off? not completely, I think it'll be along the same lines as television is currently. Not dead, just insignificant.