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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: NUKE on May 31, 2003, 12:25:23 AM
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Is there any other band that compairs? Not many great bands have even a fraction of the great songs the Beatles have written and performed.
Just a small list of some classics ( no particlular order):
Hey Jude
Revolution
Ticket to Ride
Help
We can work it out
Eleanore Rigby
I'm Looking Through You
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Eight Days A Week
Can't Buy Me Love
A Hard Day's Night
Norwegian Wood
In My Life
Yesterday
I Feel Fine
Taxman
Strawberry Fields Forever
Across The Universe
Come Together
Get Back
Something
Some others, some of my Favs:
I Am the Walrus
Revolution 1
A Day in The Life
Sgt Peppers / A little Help From My Friends
She Said She Said
Tomorrow Never Knows
Happiness Is a Warm Gun
Dear Prudence
I'm so Tired
Rain
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my Monkey
Let It Be.................
Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?
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nuke you are correct.. Their record sales and popularity and influence speak for themselves.
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Men at Work was much better.
"We Come From a Land Down Under"
"Who Can it Be Now?"
and I'm sure they had many other great hits too.
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"Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?"
Context has so much to do with it. Many of those songs, if put side by side with so many contemporary songs, would be found to be somewhat (what's the word?) quaint? Among other not so favourable adjectives. Fact is - if a young up 'n comer dumped even 'Hey Jude' ("don't make it bad, take a sad song, and make it better" - see?) on the desk of some A&R guy today, it wouldn't make it any further than the A&R guy's desk.
You can't argue that the Beatle's weren't extremely talented, but it's next to impossible to do a comparison like the one you're trying do. The actual structure of a great many of their songs is quite basic... but, for example, nobody had ever done such and such a thing before... which in turn makes them "brilliant". It's hard to leave out the phrase "for the time" and it's next to impossible to pretend that the songs aren't by now so steeped in nostalgia, that you could almost say you aren't even hearing the Beatle's songs anymore - you're just hearing the Beatles.
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I don't know about how simple they are:
Most of the stuff coming out now you can fake with a standard three chord progression. Many Beatles songs have quite complicated, musically advanced chord patterns. Not just a standard three chord progression, but a bunch of augmented 9ths and diminished chords and such.
Learning some Beatles can help your guitar knowledge.
At one time, 'Yesterday' was the most covered song. I imagine it may still be.
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I don't know if it's nostalgia, I was borned in 1974, so when I got to hear their songs they were pretty much gone. The thing with the Beatles it's that I find almost all of their songs good or interesting in some way. They did a lot of different stuff, from pretty easy and basic to weird and complicated, and always delivered. Pure rock&roll, awesome ballads, light songs, inklings of "electronica", embrionary "heavy", harrison's indian stuff...
Of course, being so popular counts too, still today their songs get played so much, that have become something like the sountrack of our lives.
PS. Nuke, you shouldn't like them! they were a bunch of filthy hippies! ;)
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Imo, what made the Beatles great was their harmonics when they sang together. I used to love the Beatles back when. But, there is so much great music nowadays, and so much to chose from.
But yeah, gotta admit, for their time, The Beatles were a great influence on many young people. I don't mean great in the sense of good either. There probably would have never been hippies if it weren't for the Beatles.
;)
Les
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No other band has influenced society more than The Beatles. John Lennon was the driving force behind them, altho Paul is usually regarded as the leader. But, when you compare post Beatles songs, Lennon clearly had more emotion and meaning in his lyrics.
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Fact is - if a young up 'n comer dumped even 'Hey Jude' ("don't make it bad, take a sad song, and make it better" - see?) on the desk of some A&R guy today, it wouldn't make it any further than the A&R guy's desk.
if someone dumped the original demo of McCartney singing Hey Jude on the desk of an A&R guy, he'd be signed instantly.
That song is a masterpeice. It's structure, it's momentum, it's vocals.
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Can any other band claim to have better songwriting and/or vocals than the Beatles?
depends on who you ask...if your talking about from that era and class of music have to say "the who" were better...
sure the beatles had more influence but it the end the only thing that matters with making a band is marketing...why do you think the beach boys ended up relativley big when they wern't even playing there own songs???
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What about Led Leppelin?
they didnt have tha same "commercial" success but have changed music more IMHO.
just my short and quick 2¢
Ps. isnt the "All-time" sales list: Beatles, Zeppelin, Garth brooks in order 1,2,3?
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Nuke you ever read the lyrics to Imagine?
One of the most commie songs ever written. Surprised you like it.
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Originally posted by 10Bears
Nuke you ever read the lyrics to Imagine?
One of the most commie songs ever written. Surprised you like it.
Where did I mention I liked Imagine? And I was talking about the Beatles as a group......didn't mention any of their solo work, which Imagine is.
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Pink Floyd.
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Just a bunch of Monkees knock offs.
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Nuke was being retarded again 10Bears, like the cactus post, just to see how quick someone would catch on.
It's a really great gag, but just lasts seconds...:(
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Originally posted by Creamo
Nuke was being retarded again 10Bears, like the cactus post, just to see how quick someone would catch on.
It's a really great gag, but just lasts seconds...:(
Don't understand what you're saying. 10bears said he wondered why I liked "Imagine" when I didn't list it or say I liked it.......so I pointed it out to him, end story.
Plus "Imagine" is not a Beatle song btw
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Sorry. Your right.
Thanks for quoting it, I lwould have lost my train of thought between the "profile" "search" and "buddy" bbs grafix.
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sure the beatles had more influence but it the end the only thing that matters with making a band is marketing...why do you think the beach boys ended up relativley big when they wern't even playing there own songs9
Don't mean to get in a pissing match, but this is a completely ignorant statement.
First, marketing didn't make the Beatles great, the Beatles and George Martin made the Beatles great and that's what stands the test of time......the product, not the marketing.
And the Beach Boys wrote their own songs. Ever hear of Brian Wilson?
Here are some Beatle songs that I consider masterful:
Hey Jude, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, A Day in The Life, Yesterday, Strawberry Fields, Norwegian Wood, Elanor Rigby, Across The Universe, Tomorrow Never Knows, I Am The Walrus, Hello Goodbye, I'm So Tired, Get Back, Come Together, Let It Be, Here Comes The Sun, Revolution, Back In The USSR, Drive MyCar, Ticket To Ride, Help!, Day Tripper, In My Life, We Can Work It Out, Taxman, She Said She Said, You've Got To Hide Your Love Away, Something, Penny Lane,
Marketing didn't make those songs. You really can't compare the Beatle's songwriting or talent with anyone else, because nobody else can compare.
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Originally posted by NUKE
Is there any other band that compairs?
Originally posted by NUKE
You really can't compare the Beatle's songwriting or talent with anyone else, because nobody else can compare.
I guess that's it then.
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Relax Nuke,
First time I dropped acid was at a White Album listening party ;)
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Originally posted by JB73
Ps. isnt the "All-time" sales list: Beatles, Zeppelin, Garth brooks in order 1,2,3?
That's just cause The Dead give it away :D
Dig a Pony ... good riff if ya play guitar
and ya the Beatles didn't use 3 chord progressions much.... you must be thinking of the Stones
Anyway you get more chicks with Beatles songs than any other band :D
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Don't forget about the King...Elvis has to be before Zeppelin, after all he had a number 1 in Britian just last year!
Here's a link to William Shatner's cover of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds"
www.celebrityrants.com/content/celeb_shatner.html (http://)
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Here's a link to William Shatner's cover of Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds"
www.celebrityrants.com/content/celeb_shatner.html (http://)
Leonard Nimoy singing "If I Had a Hammer" beats it hands down!
BTW, there is no doubt the Beatles had talent. I like a lot of their music, but my favorites are the ones before they started weirding out, doing acid and following Indian gurus. As a guitar player, I can definitely appreciate the talent involved in their songwriting. The later lyrics are somewhat questionable however. I am the walrus coo coo cachoo?
However, best band ever? Who can compare? Strict matter of opinion there. Popularity doesn't prove this.
Pink Floyd had talent...
Queen had talent if you really listen to the complexity of what's going on in the entire arrangement.
Mark Knopfler of the Dire Straits is one of the best guitarists in the world (usually not really noticed unless you're a guitar player).
Hell, even the Eagles have an immense amount of talent. And talk about harmonizing vocals...
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bands of the 60's and 70's will never be surpassed with what is considered musical "talent" today...
you honestly think anything that is in the top 10 today will be played consistantly on the radio in 30 to 40 years?
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i really like coldplay, their music made its way to the states?
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Just got the DVD anthology for my 39th.
The Beatles.
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i never said all of there songs were nt there own...i said a few of them...
but in the end the entire idea of whos great and who isnt is completly up to you
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Originally posted by Eagler
bands of the 60's and 70's will never be surpassed with what is considered musical "talent" today...
you honestly think anything that is in the top 10 today will be played consistantly on the radio in 30 to 40 years?
I certainly do. Of course, I didn't go willingly, but my teenage children have pretty much forced me to appreciate some of the new music. Once one gets past the "style" issues, it is possible to appreciate the talent.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
I certainly do. Of course, I didn't go willingly, but my teenage children have pretty much forced me to appreciate some of the new music. Once one gets past the "style" issues, it is possible to appreciate the talent.
"talent" ?
nah very little of it out there today - most of the crap that passes for "music" is just noise
think ur in a middle of some sorta mid age crisis sandy :)
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How about any of the bands or performers that influenced the Beatles like Buddy Holly, Muddy Waters, Chuck Berry, etc. Without those guys would The Beatles, or any other bands like The Who or The Rolling Stone have made the impact like they've made?
Ack-Ack
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Originally posted by Manedew
That's just cause The Dead give it away :D
Dig a Pony ... good riff if ya play guitar
are you Minus in disguise?
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Originally posted by Eagler
"talent" ?
nah very little of it out there today - most of the crap that passes for "music" is just noise
think ur in a middle of some sorta mid age crisis sandy :)
"Most of the crap that passes for "music"....." sounds like something my parents would say.
You're as old as you feel, Mr. Eagler. :)