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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: APDrone on May 31, 2003, 02:57:39 PM
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I have over 2500 bomber perk points to spend.
At the 'normal' 60 points/plane, I can 'up' 40 single plane AR234 missions or 13 formation flights, assuming I will lose them on the flight.
Sorry.. Whereas the 234 is ‘ok’.. it doesn’t really do anything for me.
Other than that, there is nothing else on which to use the perks.
Seeing as there are a plethora of fighters to spend perks on, it only seems fair that us buff jocks be given some alternatives, too.
Here are some suggestions for future development:
Legit planes first
YB40 - The YB40 was a modified B17F that had more defensive firepower in lieu of bombs to act as a bomber escort. The chin turret in the B17G had been part of the YB40 development. It did see limited service.
B29. That’s been discussed elsewhere.. repeatedly.. ad nausem, even. GIMME!!.. please?
Consolidated B-32 Dominator. Similar to B29.
Curtis C-46 Commando. Faster and carried more troops than C47.
Douglas C-54 Skymaster. Larger cargo/troop capacity than C47.
Lockheed C-69 Constellation. Even larger and faster ( top speed 300+ mph? ) than the C54. Served in final year of war.
Kawanishi H8K2 ‘Emily’ Flying Boat. 4k bombload or a couple torpedos. Nice addition to gameplay with a flying boat.
I’d say the PBY-5 Catalina, but it shouldn’t be perked.
Approaching the fringe of believability..
B17 Goon. Allow B17s to carry and drop paratroopers. Even more expensive, allow chute open altitude to be programmed by bombardier so when troops are released, they free fall until reaching the set altitude and then chute opens.
Perk some bomb loads. Make additional tonnage available to certain planes for a cost. Incendiary? Phosphorous? How about mine laying?
Anyway, just thought I’d throw those out into the fray.
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I'd really like to see Pathfinders modeled in the game. Using luminosity, you could have a low level plane going ahead and dropping flares around targets as the full mission came in a few minutes behind it.
I don't know if it needs to be perked, but on the subject of adding bombers....
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i too have over 200o bomber perks with not a thing to use them for,i like all the ideas for bombers but i really like the perking the payload .
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I like the idae of target markers going in low befoe the bombers but with ack so good over bases it would be suicide:cool:
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Originally posted by APDrone
Curtis C-46 Commando. Faster and carried more troops than C47.
Douglas C-54 Skymaster. Larger cargo/troop capacity than C47.
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Troop transport capacity is irrelevent as they'd still only carry 10 troops. C47 could carry about 25 in RL. The German's had some really cool cargo transport aircraft such as the Ar232, Me323 Gigant and the Go242/244. These would be really interesting to see.
Only perk bomber that I can really think of is the B29.
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Yeah, I mentioned the troops just as an illustration of capacity.
I think being able to load 15 troops instead of the absolute minimum to capture a base would be a nice feature, especially when dropping in a hot zone ( Maybe a perk ordinance? ) . And if you really want to get your hands dirty, program for a demolitions squad that can destroy some buildings ( structure/time, possibly ) and allow a team of those to be dropped with the troops.. to ensure that any last minute building that pops up before capture can be destroyed. Or.. drop the demolition team separately before dropping the regular troops.
Primarily, though, speed and additional cargo capacity would be the draws. Perhaps allowing C54 to carry 2 or 3 pallettes of airfield cargo as opposed to the C47s single pallette. This would allow faster HQ/Airbase resupply.. And, a much larger target for the goon hunters out there.
I took a look at some of those you mentioned. They certainly would be interesting.. especially the Messerschmitt giant, but I don't think their performance would rate perking them.
Also, the Short Sunderland and Martin Mariner would be good choices for flying boats, too.. but, again, their performance isn't worth perking.
Oh.. how about basing flying boats at the ports? Then you can add all the nifty Japanese floatplanes and make the ports even more formidable.
It's only 1s and 0s.. how difficult can it be, right?
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Like I said, the only perk bomber I can think of is the B29.
Float planes have been mentioned before and I do know that HT is keen on the idea although when they'll be introduced is something else. Port launched float planes was supposed to have been implemented as far back as 1.06 (I think!) but more pressing updates have taken priority.
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What about those Fritzes and Hs293 guided munitions :cool:
It would make the Ju88 more then a target drone :D
Of course it could also make ships alot easier to sink :eek:
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I would like to see more perk bombers cause there isnt alot to chose from. I mean come on you have how many different froms of the spitfire but you don't even have to versions of a bomber? also add more late war planes that were tested but not in combat or saw little combat. For example the Horton HO 229 "Flying Wing" which will be in bf 1942 secret weapons. While it was only be tested at teh end of ww2 it had been flown and was found to be the fest stealth aircraft. There have been many WW2 flight sims but few ever bring in late war planes and i wish it would be done more in Ah or AH2.
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The only two bombers I can think of that are perk worthy that we don't have are the B-29A Superfortress and the Mosquito B.Mk XVI. The He177A-5 might be perk worthy depending on its bombload, aka if it turns out to have a Lancaster's bombload with the defensive firepower of the B-17 and the speed of the B-26 it should be perked slightly.
Other than that bombers are too vulnerable to warrant perking.
I do strongly feel that the perk price of a formation of Ar234s should be 60 points and landing even one of them should get all 60 points back. When the more realistic bombsight was introduced it reduced accuracy and made the formations a requirement to inflict damage. Functionally this means the Ar234's price trippled without the Ar234 getting any better. This would hold true for any perk bomber.
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wtf is the point of loading bombs onto the 234?
Take em into a dogfight, and use the ratos as afterburners. There is nothing like bagging a 262 with that gun on the 234.:D
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I agree with the bomber guys! I fly them a bit and would like to see something else to spend those thousands of perkies on.
I do understand HTC is working on AH2 and other issues so this might not happen but we can hope.
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bombers I would like are
B24
B29
Catalina would be great. specially in the special events as a scout
Also agree on something other than a C47 for troops but dont know about cargo planes much.
HTC gives us fighters can we have bombers next?
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B25 for a carrier too ;-)
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Well, I think since we have nikis, there needs to be b29 superforts. theywere in the same era. Perk them 50 pts. (per form)
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use arados for dive boming...
works great for killin vh's and barraks..
great use of buff perks..
dam u guys need to open ur minds..
me ans some other MAW will run on the dek raids with arados..there great..
so stop crying ..get ur arados out...and u dont have to land themn...i end up strafing with them..great fun..:)
but god i would love a perk b-29 with perk bom loads..heheh can u say 200 perk a bom:)
teeee hoooooo
love
BiGB