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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: midnight Target on June 02, 2003, 12:06:53 PM
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Hemet-Ryan airport
three of the destroyed planes were vintage World War II-era craft
http://www.pe.com/localnews/hemet/stories/PE_NEWS_nhryan30.f07a.html
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This kind of things seems to happen at least once a year.
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I'm not registering to see that article...but, I suspect "Jewish Lightning"...you know.....an insurance fire.:D
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I'm not going to register for local California news, either. I know that fire-fighting aircraft are based there. What were the aircraft involved in the fire and how did it start? I'm guessing Invaders and PBY Catalinas, since they're used for airborne fire-fighting bombing.
I remember 3 of the aircraft used in "Tora! Tora! Tora!" were lost in a hangar fire many years ago.
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Wow, Curval, do you nigra-Rig the explosives yourself or do the Spics do the dirty for you?
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OUCH
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terrible shame...
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Originally posted by Gadfly
Wow, Curval, do you nigra-Rig the explosives yourself or do the Spics do the dirty for you?
It is an expression that my Jewish ex-girlfriend's father used to use. It didn't offend him...he thought it was funny.
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Are you jewish? As I understand it, the only people who are supposed to be able to use racist terms without being scum are the people at whom they are targeted.
I really don't care for the term or what it implies myself, no matter who uses it, but the above is just FYI as I understand it.
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No big Curval, just remember that in person, there is much more context and personal history than on an anonymous bulletin board.
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I thought it was funny. Tasteless, but I like tasteless!
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People are way to quick to start trouble over nothing. I get sick of folks thjat wear their feelings on their sleeves, or even worst, those that wear *other* peoples feelings on their sleeves.
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I simply hate bigots.
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Again, context and personal history is everything. What works for the guys you grew up with does not work in public. Like I said, no big, he didn't mean ill by it, no blood, no foul.
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the foul is with you gadfly. He meant absolutely no ill will as you have said. But you on the other hand meant absolutely no good. No offence, of course.
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I did in point mean ill. I will not tolerate bigotry, to the limits I can act. This is a place of words. I used them to show the bigotry, and Curval responded. End of story.
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Fine, can we get back to the subject of 3 warbirds going up in smoke now?
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Damn strat potatos killing the FH's again.
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Anybody want to post the relevant text so I don't have to register?
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heh, yeah I was thinkin that to.
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
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Originally posted by Gadfly
I simply hate bigots.
Well, doesn't that technically make you a bigot too???? :rolleyes:
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, hypocrite, bigot
Date: 1661
: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices
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SHUT THE HELL UP (by saying this I am not meaning to push my religon on you )
Can someone cut and paste the story? Losing planes like that really sucks. I work part time at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo in MI, when I am up there. We droped a P40E from about 12 ft. Did about 6 months worth of damage. We also had a mishap on landing the Ford Tri-motor we have. I cringe when I am around some of these old planes. Simply becuz they cant be replaced.
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I have searched the net looking for other sources about info on the fire but have come up with nothing.
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Technically, but not logically.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
I have searched the net looking for other sources about info on the fire but have come up with nothing.
Same here. I tried yesterday and got nothing. I even tried http://www.AvWeb.com, who is usually up to date about everything aviation related.
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Vintage hangar destroyed in fire
AIRPORT: The pre-World War II structure and several planes burn at the Hemet-Ryan facility.
05/30/2003
By RICH SASKAL
THE PRESS-ENTERPRISE
HEMET - A fire early Thursday destroyed a hangar at Hemet-Ryan airport and five airplanes stored inside.
There were no injuries in the fire, which was reported just after 4 a.m., Hemet Fire Chief Richard Stacey said by telephone.
The 20,000-square-foot hangar was turned into a blackened mass of rubble, with little trace of the aircraft once stored there, though the burned out hulk of a car and a truck remained.
The hangar was built before World War II, and its wood-frame construction was a major factor in the speed of the blaze, said Rob Field, supervisor of Riverside County's aviation division, which owns the airport.
"They're well-built structures, but they're timber, not steel," Field said.
DeeAnn Bradley/The Press-Enterprise
A Hemet firefighter sprays down hot spots after a fire destroyed one of the hangars Thursday at Hemet-Ryan Airport. Hangar One Cafe in the background is a place were many firefighters bought their coffee.
The hangar's destruction will have no impact on the air show planned Saturday at the airport, he said.
The fire drew nine engines and two ladder trucks from both the Hemet Fire Department and Riverside County Fire Department, Stacey said. It took 45 minutes to bring the fire under control and another hour and a half to knock down the flames, he said.
The airport is operated by Hemet-Ryan Aviation, Inc., under a contract with Riverside County. Company owner Lloyd Cliff said the hangar destroyed Thursday was the third World War II-era hangar to burn at the airport.
The first burned more than 30 years ago, he said. The second hangar burned in 1998. A two-week investigation of that blaze did not determine a cause.
A joint city-county team will investigate Thursday's fire, Stacey said.
Two businesses based in the building were displaced, and three of the destroyed planes were vintage World War II-era craft, Cliff said.
"Apparently everything I had in there was lost," said Kirt Hill, owner of Advanced Avionics, a firm that repairs, tests and installs aircraft instrumentation.
Hill, of Hemet, said his shop was full of test equipment, technical manuals and spare parts. The business was insured, Hill said, but he didn't know how much would actually be covered.
Stacey said the structural damage was $1.6 million and the value of the contents were estimated at $600,000, though that figure might rise, he said.
Field said the cost of building a new hangar would be about $3.5 million.
Reach Rich Saskal at (909) 763-3458 or rsaskal@pe.com
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The airport is operated by Hemet-Ryan Aviation, Inc., under a contract with Riverside County. Company owner Lloyd Cliff said the hangar destroyed Thursday was the third World War II-era hangar to burn at the airport.
The first burned more than 30 years ago, he said. The second hangar burned in 1998. A two-week investigation of that blaze did not determine a cause.
"Apparently everything I had in there was lost," said Kirt Hill, owner of Advanced Avionics, a firm that repairs, tests and installs aircraft instrumentation.
Hill, of Hemet, said his shop was full of test equipment, technical manuals and spare parts. The business was insured, Hill said, but he didn't know how much would actually be covered.
I smell insurance fire...as previously stated.
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Yeah, what 3 WWII airplanes could total 600,000$? Junkers or trainers, I would think.